Ryansm11 2,156 Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 3 minutes ago, dmb3684 said: Nah. Come back week 17 my dude. I’ll be here, no problem saying I’m wrong if I am. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
andypro77 273 Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 7 minutes ago, Ryansm11 said: Floor is the worst possible outcome. I understand. No, you STILL don't understand. His worst possible outcome is 0 yards due to injury or suspension. But that's not his floor. Which again, you still fail to understand. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ryansm11 2,156 Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 1 minute ago, andypro77 said: No, you STILL don't understand. His worst possible outcome is 0 yards due to injury or suspension. But that's not his floor. Which again, you still fail to understand. You don’t factor injury or suspension however. That’s foolish. You can’t predict that at all. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ryansm11 2,156 Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 3 minutes ago, andypro77 said: No, you STILL don't understand. His worst possible outcome is 0 yards due to injury or suspension. But that's not his floor. Which again, you still fail to understand. So if healthy, his floor is 1400 yards this year. He will do no worse then that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
andypro77 273 Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 6 minutes ago, Ryansm11 said: So if healthy, his floor is 1400 yards this year. He will do no worse then that. No need to continue. You DO NOT UNDERSTAND THE MEANING OF THE WORD 'FLOOR'. And you're never going to. Got it. Full stop. End of discussion. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RMJ_12 1,737 Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 (edited) 13 minutes ago, andypro77 said: No, you STILL don't understand. His worst possible outcome is 0 yards due to injury or suspension. But that's not his floor. Which again, you still fail to understand. 9 minutes ago, Ryansm11 said: So if healthy, his floor is 1400 yards this year. He will do no worse then that. What if I told you that you were BOTH wrong?! Edited June 18, 2019 by RMJ_12 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ryansm11 2,156 Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 Just now, RMJ_12 said: What if I told you that you were BOTH wrong?! Idk this guy seems pretty upset lol he probably won’t appreciate it. I hope all of you draft juju this year, I’ll be back week 17 when he has over 1400 yards. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RMJ_12 1,737 Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 Just now, Ryansm11 said: Idk this guy seems pretty upset lol he probably won’t appreciate it. I hope all of you draft juju this year, I’ll be back week 17 when he has over 1400 yards. Nobody has a floor of 1400 yards, let be real. On the other hand if everyone's floor was 0 yards there wouldn't be such a thing as a high or low floor. We wouldn't even discuss it lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ryansm11 2,156 Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 3 minutes ago, RMJ_12 said: Nobody has a floor of 1400 yards, let be real. On the other hand if everyone's floor was 0 yards there wouldn't be such a thing as a high or low floor. We wouldn't even discuss it lol If you want to be realistic. I feel pretty confident saying Julio Jones does. That’s about it. 2 years ago I would’ve said AB as well. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
andypro77 273 Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 Just now, RMJ_12 said: On the other hand if everyone's floor was 0 yards there wouldn't be such a thing as a high or low floor I did not say that his floor was 0 yards. I said that he didn't understand the word 'floor', and he said he did and then suggested that 'floor' means worst possible outcome. Here: Floor is the worst possible outcome. I understand. I corrected him saying that floor and worst possible outcome were not the same thing, because his worst possible outcome was 0 yards. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RMJ_12 1,737 Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 2 minutes ago, andypro77 said: I did not say that his floor was 0 yards. I said that he didn't understand the word 'floor', and he said he did and then suggested that 'floor' means worst possible outcome. Here: Floor is the worst possible outcome. I understand. I corrected him saying that floor and worst possible outcome were not the same thing, because his worst possible outcome was 0 yards. I see, I read that wrong Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JHM_13 463 Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 2 minutes ago, andypro77 said: I did not say that his floor was 0 yards. I said that he didn't understand the word 'floor', and he said he did and then suggested that 'floor' means worst possible outcome. Here: Floor is the worst possible outcome. I understand. I corrected him saying that floor and worst possible outcome were not the same thing, because his worst possible outcome was 0 yards. Worst possible outcome would probably be career ending injury. That would be terrible for dynasty teams Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Boudewijn 4,699 Posted June 18, 2019 Author Share Posted June 18, 2019 Guys, you are missing the point. He knows what floor is, he just gives JuJu a different floor. No need to be condescending and explain what a floor is, when the arguments for why he will do better or not and why the Steelers will be better or not are wayyy more interesting. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ryansm11 2,156 Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 1 minute ago, Boudewijn said: Guys, you are missing the point. He knows what floor is, he just gives JuJu a different floor. No need to be condescending and explain what a floor is, when the arguments for why he will do better or not and why the Steelers will be better or not are wayyy more interesting. My dude gonna beast. If you watch the jaguars game last year he excelled on Ramsey and bouye at the end of the game on the outside. He’s ready to take that next step, Elite WR1. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Boudewijn 4,699 Posted June 18, 2019 Author Share Posted June 18, 2019 Just now, Ryansm11 said: My dude gonna beast. If you watch the jaguars game last year he excelled on Ramsey and bouye at the end of the game on the outside. He’s ready to take that next step, Elite WR1. Yeah, except, and this to me is the more interesting discussion, obviously he's going to face stronger defense, including double teams. It's easier to excel when you have another top receiver on the field drawing coverage. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ryansm11 2,156 Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 1 minute ago, Boudewijn said: Yeah, except, and this to me is the more interesting discussion, obviously he's going to face stronger defense, including double teams. It's easier to excel when you have another top receiver on the field drawing coverage. Yeah that’ll be interesting. One thing I will say is Pittsburgh does a phenomenal job of scheming up open looks. A few years there AB didn’t have much help, was always double teamed, and they always had ways to get him open. Plus, teams aren’t going to just flat out double him all game every game. Most defensive coordinators don’t want to double someone, it hurts the defense. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RMJ_12 1,737 Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 5 minutes ago, Boudewijn said: Yeah, except, and this to me is the more interesting discussion, obviously he's going to face stronger defense, including double teams. It's easier to excel when you have another top receiver on the field drawing coverage. I still think he's going to see the slot quite a bit. Guys don't tend to get doubled in the slot. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ryansm11 2,156 Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 1 minute ago, RMJ_12 said: I still think he's going to see the slot quite a bit. Guys don't tend to get doubled in the slot. Agree with this as well. James Washington and moncrief are outside guys. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bomont 813 Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 This thread ended up with some unexpected entertainment value lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bhawks489 3,678 Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 1 hour ago, Ryansm11 said: Floor is the worst possible outcome. I understand. Juju has a floor of 1400 yards. He won’t do worse then that. Worst possible outcome is not 1400 yards. I’m not sure where you are getting that. The worst is 0 or if he take a pitch and gets tackled behind the los and suffering a season ending injury on his first play. I see juju having a good year too but this floor talk is just mumbo jumbo Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ryansm11 2,156 Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 5 minutes ago, bhawks489 said: Worst possible outcome is not 1400 yards. I’m not sure where you are getting that. The worst is 0 or if he take a pitch and gets tackled behind the los and suffering a season ending injury on his first play. I see juju having a good year too but this floor talk is just mumbo jumbo When I say worst possible outcome I obviously mean over a healthy 16 game season. Juju won’t finish with less then 1400. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bhawks489 3,678 Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 2 minutes ago, Ryansm11 said: When I say worst possible outcome I obviously mean over a healthy 16 game season. Juju won’t finish with less then 1400. And if he finishes with 1300 yards then what? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ryansm11 2,156 Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 1 minute ago, bhawks489 said: And if he finishes with 1300 yards then what? I will happily come back here and say how stupid I am lol. I have 0 problem with that. 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ryansm11 2,156 Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 Michael Thomas went 125/1402 last year in a very similar situation. Juju should have no problems at least matching that. They are both similar players. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RMJ_12 1,737 Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 29 minutes ago, Ryansm11 said: Michael Thomas went 125/1402 last year in a very similar situation. Juju should have no problems at least matching that. They are both similar players. 1 dropped pass and you're wrong 😂 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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