rdf8585 242 Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 (edited) Sonny Gray's 2019 outlook might depend entirely which team he's playing for. Consider his home/road splits in 2018. In Yankee Stadium: 59.1 IP, 78 H (11 HR), 35 BB, 55 K, 6.98 ERA, 1.900 WHIP Away from Yankee Stadium: 71.0 IP, 60 H (3 HR), 22 BB, 78 K, 3.17 ERA, 1.150 WHIP Gray's name has been widely circulated in trade rumors all winter. But for now, he remains in New York, a bad situation all-around for his fantasy value. Aside from not being able to pitch effectively in Yankee Stadium, their rotation has no room for him. It's possible they'll get more aggressive about moving him now that CC has been cleared after a heart issue. One intriguing destination would be Cincy, where he would be reunited with his Vanderbilt pitching coach, Derek Johnson. If he gets out of New York, Gray's value would potentially shoot way up in almost any other situation. Anyone targeting him as a sleeper? Edited January 14, 2019 by rdf8585 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jfazz23 2,530 Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 (edited) he might be worth a late round draft because i think hell have a good year if yanks trade him to NL. cinci would be solid, i think padres even better. even the brewers or cubs could be a destination? maybe cards? i think hed fit in well with a lot of those teams. rockies always seem to need pitching too. that said, yanks might be keeping him as CC insurance which basically makes him worthless even trading him back to oakland with some money for a good prospect. well see i guess Edited January 14, 2019 by jfazz23 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
89Topps 2,710 Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 Increased rumors about Cincy. Not a ballpark upgrade, that's for sure. Maybe being reunited with his old pitching coach will help. Not someone I'll be targeting on draft day other than late, late round flier time. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Members_Only_76 7,283 Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 Heading to Cincy. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Members_Only_76 7,283 Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 11 minutes ago, Members_Only_76 said: Heading to Cincy. edit... actually saw it on CBS...but now there is a subsequest post saying not official yet Sonny Gray SP | NYY Reds' Sonny Gray: Shipped to Cincinnati by RotoWire Staff (18 mins ago) Gray was sent from the Yankees to the Redsin exchange for a player to be named later and cash Friday, soruce reports. After a strong start to his career in Oakland, Gray sputtered with the Yankees, posting a 4.90 ERA last season and losing his place in the starting rotation. The underlying numbers suggest his step back was much smaller, as he posted a respectable 4.17 FIP, so the Reds will be banking on the fact that his skills are still there. The righty will trade one tough park for another and sees his chances at wins go down, but a much firmer place in a starting rotation is nevertheless a boost to his fantasy value. Sonny Gray SP | NYY Yankees' Sonny Gray: No official trade yet by RotoWire Staff (7 mins ago) The Reds have yet to officially trade for Gray. Reports earlier in the day suggested a deal was close. There was an erroneous report making the rounds on Twitter suggesting that the deal was finalized, but Gray remains a member of the Yankees for now. Gray could well end up on the Reds shortly, as the team is a logical destination, but a deal is not yet done. Edited just now by Members_Only_76 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LuckBox1 102 Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 Cy Young candidate. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
89Topps 2,710 Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 39 minutes ago, LuckBox1 said: Cy Young candidate. In 2015. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ecofolux 242 Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 Yeah he's out of Yankee stadium but is GAB really THAT much better of a ballpark? It's not like he's returning to the Colosseum or something. Plus NL Central looks tough with the Brewers, Cardinals (improved), and a Cubs bounce-back. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
meh2 3,509 Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 6 hours ago, Ecofolux said: Yeah he's out of Yankee stadium but is GAB really THAT much better of a ballpark? It's not like he's returning to the Colosseum or something. Plus NL Central looks tough with the Brewers, Cardinals (improved), and a Cubs bounce-back. It's not. From ESPN: MLB Park Factors - 2018 RK PARK NAME RUNS HR H 2B 3B BB 1 Great American Ball Park (Cincinnati, Ohio) 1.128 1.395 1.023 1.038 1.364 1.160 2 Coors Field (Denver, Colorado) 1.271 1.280 1.233 1.475 2.025 1.005 3 Globe Life Park in Arlington (Arlington, Texas) 1.352 1.273 1.171 1.165 1.957 1.096 4 Citizens Bank Park (Philadelphia, Pennsylvania) 1.042 1.190 0.980 0.967 0.879 0.943 5 Nationals Park (Washington, D.C.) 1.134 1.173 1.084 1.219 0.821 1.051 6 Yankee Stadium (New York, New York) 1.126 1.166 1.103 0.912 0.714 1.140 I was looking to target him pretty heavily in the late rounds depending on his new home, but if it's Cincy I'll pass. I'm not quite sure what the Reds are doing giving up 2-3 prospects for 1 year of Gray after how poorly pitched in Yankee Stadium last year. Why not look to sign a groundball pitcher like Keuchel? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rdf8585 242 Posted January 19, 2019 Author Share Posted January 19, 2019 Assuming he goes to Cincy, who gets the boot from their rotation... Tyler Mahle? The additions of Wood and Roark crowded things a little. From their depth chart on mlb.com.... ROTATION 1. A. DeSclafani 2. L. Castillo 3. T. Roark 4. A. Wood 5. T. Mahle Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Slatykamora 2,827 Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 Given Alex Wood and Desclafani injurt history. That is far from crowded. More like necessary. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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cdd10 1,200 Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 19 hours ago, rdf8585 said: Assuming he goes to Cincy, who gets the boot from their rotation... Tyler Mahle? The additions of Wood and Roark crowded things a little. From their depth chart on mlb.com.... ROTATION 1. A. DeSclafani 2. L. Castillo 3. T. Roark 4. A. Wood 5. T. Mahle Maybe DeSclafani since he is brittle? Move him to the pen? Either way he is going to get hurt if he makes it through ST. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jfazz23 2,530 Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 19 hours ago, rdf8585 said: 14 hours ago, rdf8585 said: anyone know anything about long? is he a solid prospect? i think this is good for gray. i think the padres would have been better but this greatly increases value. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kirito-Sama 11 Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 Gray is somebody that I'm buying in all leagues at his current price. Huge BABIP last year, Moving to the NL, Great numbers outside of Yankee Stadium (psychological issue), and he's now working with the best pitching coach in the game who also happens to be his old college coach. He'll be an SP2-3, going at an SP6+ price. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kirito-Sama 11 Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 On 1/19/2019 at 10:35 AM, meh2 said: It's not. From ESPN: MLB Park Factors - 2018 RK PARK NAME RUNS HR H 2B 3B BB 1 Great American Ball Park (Cincinnati, Ohio) 1.128 1.395 1.023 1.038 1.364 1.160 2 Coors Field (Denver, Colorado) 1.271 1.280 1.233 1.475 2.025 1.005 3 Globe Life Park in Arlington (Arlington, Texas) 1.352 1.273 1.171 1.165 1.957 1.096 4 Citizens Bank Park (Philadelphia, Pennsylvania) 1.042 1.190 0.980 0.967 0.879 0.943 5 Nationals Park (Washington, D.C.) 1.134 1.173 1.084 1.219 0.821 1.051 6 Yankee Stadium (New York, New York) 1.126 1.166 1.103 0.912 0.714 1.140 I was looking to target him pretty heavily in the late rounds depending on his new home, but if it's Cincy I'll pass. I'm not quite sure what the Reds are doing giving up 2-3 prospects for 1 year of Gray after how poorly pitched in Yankee Stadium last year. Why not look to sign a groundball pitcher like Keuchel? Gray's problems with YS are psychological. He's never had a problem pitching in small parks. Some guys just can't make it in New York. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cs3 3,471 Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 On 1/19/2019 at 12:55 AM, Ecofolux said: It's not like he's returning to the Colosseum Had no idea he pitched in Rome! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jfazz23 2,530 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 On 2/14/2019 at 8:39 AM, Kirito-Sama said: Gray's problems with YS are psychological. He's never had a problem pitching in small parks. Some guys just can't make it in New York. im starting to agree with you. he looked good in his first spring outing. just got him in the mid 200s in a deep 12 teamer h2h. competitive league too Quote Link to post Share on other sites
B&F 938 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 Even assuming he gets his own house in order he is in a brutal division in a brutal ballpark. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
My Dinner With Andre 5,805 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 Gray made it no secret that he didn't approve of how the Yanks utilized him. https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.si.com/mlb/2019/03/05/sonny-gray-yankees-2018-season-sliders-curveballs-struggles Something to keep an eye on. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hockey_Baseball 319 Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 So, small sample size in spring but his Opponent Quality was at 8.6, which is high for spring training - something like AAAA competition. 10 IP, 5H, 1ER, 0BB:11K I'm intrigued. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kirito-Sama 11 Posted April 1, 2019 Share Posted April 1, 2019 Holy s--- he looked bad 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
raptors7 9 Posted April 1, 2019 Share Posted April 1, 2019 Not a good first start but I expect it should get better. I have a couple shares of him this season. Take last season out of the mix his numbers are front line starter worthy. As long as he remains healthy of course. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
urban2014 1,741 Posted April 6, 2019 Share Posted April 6, 2019 Great start, but no run support Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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