Tim Anderson 2019 Outlook

[89Topps 2,739]

2 hours ago, FISH ON said:

 

 

I don't have any problem with it.  I'd like to see more of it, honestly.  That said, I also have no issue with Keller putting one in his ribs.  This kind of stuff makes baseball interesting.  Otherwise, are we even talking about a Royals, White Sox game in April?

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1 hour ago, sleepysock said:

There is no such thing as a "warranted beaning." Guy makes you look foolish? Strike him out next time. 

 

The tradition thing is also one of the most bizarre arguments one can make about, well, anything. If you get cancer, guess what? A bucket of leeches for you! Daughter hits puberty? Sell her for a dozen goats to your cousin! After all, it was done for hundreds of years. Tradition, amirite? Also, the game has not been "tried and true" for over 100 years. It has undergone dozens and dozens of changes. Tradition would have a bunch of white dudes playing slap-ball without wearing batting helmets. Perhaps lets rethink how much "tradition" should play a role in dictating how baseball ought to be played...

 

So perhaps we should try instead to evolve past stupid, dangerous behaviors. Tim Anderson getting fired up and throwing his bat at his dugout to pump up his fans and his team is totally ok. Keller throwing at him otoh is a d-bag move, especially as an AL pitcher. You're putting a guy's livelihood in jeopardy every time you do it, whether the intention is to hit him in the a** or not. Guys with better control than Keller have let one slip and hit a guy in the head. 

 

This sort of BS should be punished with a heavy fine and, for pitchers, a 20-25 game suspension. Otherwise it'll just continue. 

 

 

 

I ask this every time this topic comes up, but I can't honestly remember a single player ever being hurt being intentionally thrown at.

[The Big Bat Theory 7,607]

2 hours ago, Ragnaroker said:

He's walked once and his BABIP is like .500. I'd sell high if you can.

I'm keeping anyone batting .421 with 4 homers and 6 stolen bases in 57 ABs.  I play to win, not to sell stocks.

[mjb03003 1,974]

1 minute ago, The Big Bat Theory said:

I'm keeping anyone batting .421 with 4 homers and 6 stolen bases in 57 ABs.  I play to win, not to sell stocks.

 

And he somewhat quietly had a 20/26 season last year. 

Could just be a hot start but I’ve seen him hit a few absolute missiles already this year, and he’s certainly been aggressive on the base paths. 

 

It seems like 25/30 is not too big of a stretch. 

[High&Inside 1,308]

5 minutes ago, The Big Bat Theory said:

I'm keeping anyone batting .421 with 4 homers and 6 stolen bases in 57 ABs.  I play to win, not to sell stocks.

There are some troubling things about his profile like his hard hit rate and gb rate. Buttttttt so far his plate discipline improvements are sticking around and I just kinda like the guy. And those steals are real nice.

[hangin n wangin 1,706]

28 minutes ago, High&Inside said:

There are some troubling things about his profile like his hard hit rate and gb rate. Buttttttt so far his plate discipline improvements are sticking around and I just kinda like the guy. And those steals are real nice.

This post is exactly how I feel....

[High&Inside 1,308]

4 minutes ago, hangin n wangin said:

This post is exactly how I feel....

The metrics lurking below the surface.

I also like that team too. I'm not always logical with fantasy. Sometimes it just comes back to enjoying watching the game which will lean me towards a player.

[Ragnaroker 1,612]

44 minutes ago, The Big Bat Theory said:

I'm keeping anyone batting .421 with 4 homers and 6 stolen bases in 57 ABs.  I play to win, not to sell stocks.

I like to win the whole season, not just a few weeks 😉

Really though, his current pace is absolutely unsustainable. Conventional wisdom says hes a sell, but to each their own for sure.

[sleepysock 840]

You're not going to be able to sell him for better than he would likely produce, though (most likely). No one's going to give you Kershaw for Tim Anderson or something like that. ROS he could easily go 260-20-30. What can you realistically get in return that's worth giving that up?

[High&Inside 1,308]

2 minutes ago, Ragnaroker said:

I like to win the whole season, not just a few weeks 😉

Really though, his current pace is absolutely unsustainable. Conventional wisdom says hes a sell, but to each their own for sure.

To be fair no one expects him to be a .400 hitter. But if he keeps up the plate discipline improvements maybe .270, plus the way he's stealing bags. Could be really worth it.

[Ragnaroker 1,612]

4 minutes ago, sleepysock said:

You're not going to be able to sell him for better than he would likely produce, though (most likely). No one's going to give you Kershaw for Tim Anderson or something like that. ROS he could easily go 260-20-30. What can you realistically get in return that's worth giving that up?

Easily would imply he has done that before. He hasn't. Really nobody in the league easily gets 20-30.

 

Edited April 18, 2019 by Ragnaroker

[The Big Bat Theory 7,607]

16 minutes ago, Ragnaroker said:

I like to win the whole season, not just a few weeks 😉

Really though, his current pace is absolutely unsustainable. Conventional wisdom says hes a sell, but to each their own for sure.

You'd "sell high" on a guy that LAST season hit 20 homers and stole 26 bases?  You know how hard it is to find base stealers these days in fantasy baseball let alone ones that play everyday AND hit 20 dingers?

And of course he won't bat .400 because Ted William's head would pop out of his cryogenic tank and come bit his bats to pieces before he would allow that.  But Anderson can both replicate and even improve on last season.

[Ragnaroker 1,612]

5 minutes ago, The Big Bat Theory said:

You'd "sell high" on a guy that LAST season hit 20 homers and stole 26 bases?  You know how hard it is to find base stealers these days in fantasy baseball let alone ones that play everyday AND hit 20 dingers?

 And of course he won't bat .400 because Ted William's head would pop out of his cryogenic tank and come bit his bats to pieces before he would allow that.  But Anderson can both replicate and even improve on last season.

I would "sell high" on the fact that he is overperforming anything sustainable right now. Even with 20/26 he wasn't insanely valuable in any of my leagues, maybe it depends on format. I'm not sure why its such a farfetched idea to sell on a guy who is leading the league with an absurdly high BABIP with unsustainable peripherals and a history of incredibly poor plate discipline.

If someone believes his approach is different and he's a "better" player I would personally sell. You don't have to, not like his fantasy floor isn't still very solid.

[blabuwe 5]

2 hours ago, BxBOMBERs28 said:

I guess we can’t even celebrate HRs not even a little bit.... ridiculous he got beaned for that. Even more ridiculous they threw him out of the game. 

 

Wow. I don't think these people actually watched the plays in question. Anderson not only chucked the bat a dozen feet with two hands, he also was mouthing off and screaming right in the face of the catcher Maldonado. Next, after he rounded home plate he brushed up against Maldonado … not incidentally.

So, predictably, he gets plugged in the hip. It was totally textbook, not above the belt. One might expect at that point he puts his head down and takes first base. No. The dude mouths off yet again, takes a step toward the mound, when Maldonado gets in front of him he make more contact and mouths off some more.

I am sorry but if anybody thinks this is fun and cool or that he didn't deserve a little (safe) payback, why don't you actually put yourself in the shoes of Keller, Maldonado, Ned Yost and the Royals.

Kudos to Keller for having the restraint to plug the a** in the a**.

That's all I got to say.

[Tommy Lee Jones 599]

Tim Anderson is a millennial.  Born and raised in the United States millennial.  We all know that he has no choice but to be a terrible person.  He allows his wife to name his children (Paxton and Payton).  I’m pretty sure those are surnames.  The guy is doomed, it goes without saying.  But as a Sox fan, I hope he keeps this up.  Obviously I’m looking at his .280 on base percentage in 2017 and laughing hard at his “stockholders”, but perhaps he has turned a corner.  An all-time quantum leap.

It’s not like I can root against him.

[Tommy Lee Jones 599]

*.280 on base percentage in 2018. 

Make no mistake, that’s a guy flipping burgers a la Jared Mitchell or Courtney Hawkins, or countless other White Sox draft picks with Kenny Williams fingerprints on ‘em.  I don’t know where Kenny ends and Rick Hahn begins.

[sleepysock 840]

3 hours ago, Ragnaroker said:

Easily would imply he has done that before. He hasn't. Really nobody in the league easily gets 20-30.

 

 

You know what I mean. Let's not get hung up on a word. He put up 20-26 last season despite doing almost nothing in the second half (231-7-5). He hasn't put a full season together but has certainly shown the ability to hit on a 270-25-35 season. And because there are so few players with that kind of realistic upside, you really can't sell high unless you're getting a great trade offer. 

[jahweedum 326]

4 hours ago, sleepysock said:

You're not going to be able to sell him for better than he would likely produce, though (most likely). No one's going to give you Kershaw for Tim Anderson or something like that. ROS he could easily go 260-20-30. What can you realistically get in return that's worth giving that up?

 

Good point - you trade the SS with the value, and you plug in the SS that has similar value, but not in trade!

Edited April 18, 2019 by jahweedum

[sleepysock 840]

If it helps anyone gauging value, Anderson was just traded tonight for Tyler Glasgow and Ryan brasier in one of my leagues. 

[Junkie Cosmonaut 702]

Back to the ejection. Don't forget this little tidbit, Joe West has had it out for the White Sox back to the Ozzie Guillen days and has had issues with Anderson before

 

https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/white-sox/tim-anderson-eventful-day-yard-ends-shot-hawk-harrelson-joe-west-everybody-knows-hes-terrible

 

And knowing that Joe is bigger than the game itself, its probably safe to say that he was looking for a reason to toss him because that elephant forgets nothing and Tim's words from last September were echoing in his head. 

 

 

[BxBOMBERs28 964]

9 hours ago, blabuwe said:

 

Wow. I don't think these people actually watched the plays in question. Anderson not only chucked the bat a dozen feet with two hands, he also was mouthing off and screaming right in the face of the catcher Maldonado. Next, after he rounded home plate he brushed up against Maldonado … not incidentally.

So, predictably, he gets plugged in the hip. It was totally textbook, not above the belt. One might expect at that point he puts his head down and takes first base. No. The dude mouths off yet again, takes a step toward the mound, when Maldonado gets in front of him he make more contact and mouths off some more.

I am sorry but if anybody thinks this is fun and cool or that he didn't deserve a little (safe) payback, why don't you actually put yourself in the shoes of Keller, Maldonado, Ned Yost and the Royals.

Kudos to Keller for having the restraint to plug the a** in the a**.

That's all I got to say.

Yes nobody can have any fun in baseball we get it. Just hit your home runs and show no emotion like a good boy. RIDICULOUS. Get off my lawn while you’re at it 

[JetsAwesome 638]

wish they would bat him 3 or 4 behind Abreu to maximize his at bats during the hot streak.

[Jpress82 30]

2 more hits today and a SB. Everyone is saying sell high but i think i am going to hold. He was already a 20/20 guy and the batting average is going to be higher then last year. I think he could be a 20/40 guy with a good batting average.

[Beakman 681]

What does Tim have to do to move up in the batting order?

[jfazz23 2,530]

1 minute ago, Beakman said:

What does Tim have to do to move up in the batting order?

 

walk more 

but i agree with u