sjm76 769 Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 I like Todd Gurley, too, and don't want to give him bad karma but if his knee doesn't hold up which a fair number of experts have been predicting then I think that Goff will be a surefire top 10 qb with an outside chance at the top 5 because they'll be passing a lot. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bomont 795 Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 Drives will also be stalling more. I can't say either way but I haven't seen anything to indicate that losing a great RB actually helps a QB's numbers. Or hurts them. I would think hurts, because again less successful drives overall (fewer plays). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sjm76 769 Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 18 minutes ago, bomont said: Drives will also be stalling more. I can't say either way but I haven't seen anything to indicate that losing a great RB actually helps a QB's numbers. Or hurts them. I would think hurts, because again less successful drives overall (fewer plays). I think it's just common sense that if you're a team that doesn't have a star or at least solid rb in there, you're going to pass more especially if you're in shootouts. I took a risk yesterday and drafted both Dak Prescott and Amari Cooper in a league thinking that Zeke Elliott's holdout could last well into the season so they'll be passing more and now I'm reading reports that could very well be the case. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Eddie Mush 188 Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 averaged 237 ypg in 3 playoff games with 1 total thrown TD. Yuck. Add that to his last few games in the reg season, not good. Take out the 4 TDs against SF and it's scary how bad he was from December onward. 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bomont 795 Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 1 hour ago, sjm76 said: I think it's just common sense that if you're a team that doesn't have a star or at least solid rb in there, you're going to pass more especially if you're in shootouts. Yes, but I also think it's common sense that if you go from one of the best RBs in the league to someone far less talented, you're going to run fewer plays because your offense isn't as good so drives will stall more. As for Goff sucking in Dec/playoffs, then don't start him in Dec. I don't buy this what happened at the end of last year will carry over thing. It may, but IMO he's well worth a cheap flyer. People conveniently ignore how he tore it up before that. And again I don't think that happening right about the same time Kupp went out is coincidence. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SoxNation16 4 Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 He had 2 td (1rush) against Arizona with 0 int as well don’t think he played whole game either. It was 3 bad games and playoffs they just ran the ball for 200+ yards against cowboys. He did his job. Look at all the other QBs in playoffs not very many had a good run. He had the best QB rating in nfl history with at least 4 prime time games played before his games against chi and philly so it was really just evening out. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sjm76 769 Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 (edited) As mentioned, I drafted Goff in a draft that I had yesterday because I think his main problem was that he didn't have Kupp who was his favorite receiver when he had his bad games. With Kupp, Cooks and Woods now all healthy, he should have a solid year and bounce back if all of them stay healthy. Edited August 2, 2019 by sjm76 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DerrickHenrysCleats 5,892 Posted August 3, 2019 Share Posted August 3, 2019 (edited) I bet this guy is one of the most owned players on a championship team. A guy you can get late in drafts with plenty of pass catchers in Woods, Cooks, and Kupp. Even added a RB in Henderson that makes explosive receiving plays. Go get your studs, steal this guy late and be good to go at QB. Edited August 3, 2019 by DerrickHenrysCleats 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BMcP 8,281 Posted August 3, 2019 Share Posted August 3, 2019 Surprisingly little experience along that entire interior line. If Goff had performed better under pressure throughout his career, I wouldn’t be as concerned, but... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The G Man 1,013 Posted August 3, 2019 Share Posted August 3, 2019 16 hours ago, DerrickHenrysCleats said: I bet this guy is one of the most owned players on a championship team. A guy you can get late in drafts with plenty of pass catchers in Woods, Cooks, and Kupp. Even added a RB in Henderson that makes explosive receiving plays. Go get your studs, steal this guy late and be good to go at QB. I agree DHC. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
afl5013 420 Posted August 3, 2019 Share Posted August 3, 2019 On 8/2/2019 at 12:46 PM, SharkSwimmer said: The Rams announced that Goff cannot read defenses. Now getthefugouttahere. For real though, my point is that Goff was entirely exposed in the Superbowl. The secret's out. I'm just saying, what you said couldn't be farther from the truth. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bomont 795 Posted August 3, 2019 Share Posted August 3, 2019 15 hours ago, BMcP said: Surprisingly little experience along that entire interior line. If Goff had performed better under pressure throughout his career, I wouldn’t be as concerned, but... That is my biggest concern and why I won't take him for much more than minimum, but there's a legit shot I can get him for that. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Panthers8912 713 Posted August 3, 2019 Share Posted August 3, 2019 On 8/2/2019 at 1:58 PM, smeeze said: Amen. And if Brandin Cooks didn’t drop that pass in the endzone (which he was interfered with on) we’d be talking about Goff as 24 year old Superbowl winning QB. Crazy recency bias on this one. You mean the throw Goff was 80mins late on? Lol at trying to put that on cooks 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Boudewijn 4,456 Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 8 hours ago, Panthers8912 said: You mean the throw Goff was 80mins late on? Lol at trying to put that on cooks Agree. Check this video to see both how long Goff waited and for how much time Cooks was open. https://www.patriots.com/video/jason-mccourty-flies-in-to-break-up-would-be-td-to-brandin-cooks It's weird even. One of your prime targets goes deep and you don't see it until it's too late? Either Cooks was not supposed to be there or Goff seriously crumbled under pressure. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bronco Billy 324 Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 6 hours ago, Boudewijn said: Agree. Check this video to see both how long Goff waited and for how much time Cooks was open. https://www.patriots.com/video/jason-mccourty-flies-in-to-break-up-would-be-td-to-brandin-cooks It's weird even. One of your prime targets goes deep and you don't see it until it's too late? Either Cooks was not supposed to be there or Goff seriously crumbled under pressure. There’s no way to know what Goff’s progression was on that play, which could very well account for why Cooks looked so uncovered, or what the backfield pressure was that Goff may have been moving to keep the play alive and unable to set and throw deep until it was too late. The CB obviously released him to drop into a shallower area. That said, a better QB would have thrown a pass that forced Cooks away from the S and would have had a TD on that play. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
OrangeAggie 256 Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 Ended up landing Cooks and Cupp, so I paired them with Goff. In other words, Robert Woods will have a huge year. 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sivaro 943 Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 Goff is a solid QB, with a great team, and fantastic receivers. He is severely underrated and will be in the top 5 discussion most of the year. This guy is a late round steal. IMO 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
smeeze 6,095 Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 9 hours ago, Sivaro said: Goff is a solid QB, with a great team, and fantastic receivers. He is severely underrated and will be in the top 5 discussion most of the year. This guy is a late round steal. IMO Most of the Rams are super undervalued. Woods in the 4th? Kupp in the 5th? Goff in the 9th? Easy money. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Singing in Dwayne 313 Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 (edited) I know nobody cares, but I got him in round 14. Extraordinary value there, and QBs in general at the end of drafts. Excited to see what he does. I like him a lot, and I think them monitoring Gurley may make him even better with more volume. I love it in mocks when people laugh at me for never picking a QB until late. In mocks the best guys available at the end are like Trubisky and Stafford. Lol That's not how it goes in real, competitive leagues. Edited August 31, 2019 by Singing in Dwayne 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The 7th Beatles 15,647 Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 Non Zeke contract news 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ponchsox 1,800 Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 Wow. Melvin Gordon should have been a QB. 1 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LionKid90 426 Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 How do we feel about him this week on the road against Carolina? Based on last season, Carolina's weakness was their secondary. I want to trust Goff but the way he ended last season may have to sit him a week or two and go with a safer play like Cousins or Dak. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ColoWrex 1,951 Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 Holy shnike's. What the #$%$ is Mahomes gonna get? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ponza88 1,768 Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 1 hour ago, The 7th Beatles said: Non Zeke contract news Well Deserved... to be honest. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rizon 332 Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 1 hour ago, LionKid90 said: How do we feel about him this week on the road against Carolina? Based on last season, Carolina's weakness was their secondary. I want to trust Goff but the way he ended last season may have to sit him a week or two and go with a safer play like Cousins or Dak. I’m feeling great. This guy was the #3 FF QB (or #2 depending on settings) before Kupp went down. With them potentially giving Gurley some more rest, and with another year and super bowl experience under his belt, I’m betting on a huge year for Goff Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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