killer carlson 34 Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 He could win the mvp. Fitting as he was drafted right before kickers and defenses. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
StevenSC400 1,002 Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 1 minute ago, jeremyt7 said: I was being modest. He definitely could end up being a top 5 qb he's got outstanding weapons to throw to. I'm on board for sure. The only QBs I would 100% for sure want over him would be Mahomes and probably Watson. Outside of those two I think he has a chance for top 5 no less than anyone else. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jeremyt7 101 Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 Agreed. They don't have Josh, AB, and Edelman and NOT throw to them. Look what he did week 1 without AB. The possibilities Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Asian Sensation 2,074 Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 9 minutes ago, killer carlson said: He could win the mvp. Fitting as he was drafted right before kickers and defenses. Now that’s a bold prediction. He’s only won it 3x with the last one in 2017. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Iron-cock 10,337 Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 On 9/2/2019 at 9:46 PM, Iron-cock said: Rotoworld, we need to talk. I am the president of the "Tom Brady is overrated" fanclub. That being said I have some new facts to point out for 2019. In the past, I've pointed out how Brady's competent years as a quarterback have come with hall of fame weapons were around him. Specifically Randy Moss and Rob Gronkowski. Without them, he's simply an above average Quarterback. Well, I ran across an interesting fact...only nine wide receivers since the year 2000 have had over 1600 receiving yards in a season. Here are seven of them: Antonio Brown Marvin Harrison Torry Holt Calvin Johnson Julio Jones Randy Moss Rod Smith Can you guess the two others? They are: Josh Gordon and Demaryius Thomas In addition he has Julian Edelman, N'Keal Harry, Phillip Dorsett, a UDFA named Jakobi Meyers who catches everything like he's spider man, etc. Tom Brady's currently ranked as QB #17, and the 121st player on FantasyPros, which is apparently based on a "Consensus of 29 Experts". The Rotoworld draft guide has him at QB 18, two spots above the immortal Mitchell Trubisky. Brady had 570 attempts last year, more than 30 attempts in 14 of 16 games and more than 40 in 4 of 14 games. These experts are way off the mark with where Brady will likely finish in relation to other Quarterbacks. You did draft Tom Brady this season, right Rotoworld? Even I drafted him. His ADP is way too low. On 9/7/2019 at 11:49 PM, Boudewijn said: Maybe they can bring back Calvin Johnson and Tory Holt so they have 5?</sarcasm> I mean, in Fantasy you don't want pay for history, and the same goes in the NFL. Belichick hired them for what they can do this year, which is not going to be 1600 yards pp. It doesn't change that Brady is 83 and has a noodle arm by now. It will help open up the field for the running game, and Brady will still be a good fantasy QB, but not top 5. I'm just not buying that. I don't think I mentioned top 5 anywhere, but I did say his ADP was way too low and QB18 was ridiculous. Even without AB, I think it was pretty evident last week. He finished as QB7. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Asian Sensation 2,074 Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 Projection time. I’m thinking he finishes around 4,800 yards and 35 TDs. That should/will easily be good enough for Top 5. Finishing 2nd could definitely happen. Last year there was only a 9 point difference separating 2nd and 3rd and 3rd and 4th and a 5 point difference between 4th and 5th. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PizzaBeerFF 760 Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 21 minutes ago, Iron-cock said: I don't think I mentioned top 5 anywhere, but I did say his ADP was way too low and QB18 was ridiculous. Even without AB, I think it was pretty evident last week. He finished as QB7. Lol... Jets fan Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nap Time 1,041 Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 In 2017 as the defense improved over the course of the season, Brady's numbers dropped off because they reeled the offense in. They don't want him getting hurt. Brady owners better hope the defense isn't as good as it looked against the Steelers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TheChamp 36 Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 On 9/8/2019 at 9:17 AM, this guy right here said: Still doesn't prove he can throw a deep ball. Happy now? lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
this guy right here 1,054 Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 (edited) 5 hours ago, TheChamp said: Happy now? lol Never said he couldn't or wouldn't. Just stated THE FACT that working on arm strength doesn't make one better at throwing deep. Working on deep throws makes you better. Deep throws ACTUALLY need more touch. Edited September 14, 2019 by this guy right here Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BigBenTheSteelerMan 222 Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 Plus the Steelers are weak in the air so thats what the pats attacked. Bradys pretty up and down. When they play teams weak in the air, they air it, weak against the run? Then run it down their throats. Brady has a pretty low floor due to that and the fact that he's a team a player. He doesn't go for stats or tds, he just goes for wins and that translates to high ceilings and low floors. Temper your expectations Quote Link to post Share on other sites
roscobangs 270 Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 2 hours ago, BigBenTheSteelerMan said: Plus the Steelers are weak in the air so thats what the pats attacked. Bradys pretty up and down. When they play teams weak in the air, they air it, weak against the run? Then run it down their throats. Brady has a pretty low floor due to that and the fact that he's a team a player. He doesn't go for stats or tds, he just goes for wins and that translates to high ceilings and low floors. Temper your expectations Given the amount of skilled playmakers he has around him, I think he actually has a pretty high floor. Dumping the ball off to White, Burkhead, Edelman and AB... Doesn't take much for those guys to make your stat line look good. Also, their time of possession is going to be up over years past because this defense is stacked, and the division might be worse than ever. Brady could not be in a better situation to succeed. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
StevenSC400 1,002 Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 11 hours ago, roscobangs said: Given the amount of skilled playmakers he has around him, I think he actually has a pretty high floor. Dumping the ball off to White, Burkhead, Edelman and AB... Doesn't take much for those guys to make your stat line look good. Also, their time of possession is going to be up over years past because this defense is stacked, and the division might be worse than ever. Brady could not be in a better situation to succeed. I agree I’d much rather have Gordon and AB with Edelman in the slot white in the backfield than Edelman and a banged up Gronk from years of wear and tear last year. They aren’t going to run as much this year with all those weapons. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rickydragon 270 Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 He’ll be fine for about 10 weeks. But I see his production toning down once weather and fatigue kicks in. No way they’re gonna risk getting him injured for stats Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TheChamp 36 Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 Brady always had the touch, the problem was his biggest deep threat he's had in the last 10 years has probably been Chris Hogan. (To which he threw a number of bombs too) When he finally got a real deep threat in Gordon, he lead the NFL in receiving yards the last 8 weeks they were together and had plenty of long throws/bombs along the way. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dmb3684 4,644 Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 24 minutes ago, TheChamp said: Brady always had the touch, the problem was his biggest deep threat he's had in the last 10 years has probably been Chris Hogan. (To which he threw a number of bombs too) When he finally got a real deep threat in Gordon, he lead the NFL in receiving yards the last 8 weeks they were together and had plenty of long throws/bombs along the way. Cooks would take that honor I believe. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fingers 658 Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 1 hour ago, Rickydragon said: He’ll be fine for about 10 weeks. But I see his production toning down once weather and fatigue kicks in. No way they’re gonna risk getting him injured for stats What? He'll play every snap and they never let off the gas pedal. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BigBenTheSteelerMan 222 Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 I dont think you guys understand the pats. Im not saying brady is gonna be s---y. Im just saying that he will have some really bad games because the pats abd brady only care about winning. If it takes 30 runs to win a game they'll do it, and it will translate to bad fantasy production. Just dont use him against teams bad against the run Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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kretan182 527 Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 I feel he was a steal for most who drafted him this year. I got him in the 13th round, and I am starting him every week over Aaron Rodgers. The Patriots schedule and the AB trade make the old dinosaur a must start. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
zorndogs 107 Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 On 9/16/2019 at 9:21 AM, kretan182 said: I feel he was a steal for most who drafted him this year. I got him in the 13th round, and I am starting him every week over Aaron Rodgers. The Patriots schedule and the AB trade make the old dinosaur a must start. I have the same issue, I drafted A Rodgers about ten rounds earlier than I drafted Brady, but Brady has been starting for me. Are you worried about Brady this week going to Buffalo? I'm thinking of starting Rodgers against that weak PHI secondary, but Brady's floor seems so high right now that it's hard to not start him. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kretan182 527 Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 (edited) 53 minutes ago, zorndogs said: I have the same issue, I drafted A Rodgers about ten rounds earlier than I drafted Brady, but Brady has been starting for me. Are you worried about Brady this week going to Buffalo? I'm thinking of starting Rodgers against that weak PHI secondary, but Brady's floor seems so high right now that it's hard to not start him. I am very torn about this week. After reading articles and blurbs, I have decided to roll with Rodgers tonight, considering he has a home game against a weak Eagles secondary. However, my gut tells me to start Brady, who is the very face on consistency and has a high floor. The release of Brown should not effect him whatsoever, since the rest of the Pats receivers are healthy and they have two competent receiving backs. Edited September 26, 2019 by kretan182 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
raidaz18 447 Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 Anyone worried about how he played last week? At this age it isn't a slow decline, he may one week hit a rock wall. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FlashGordon401 2,465 Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 Against one of the most cupcake matchups in the league? Not at all. The Bills defense is easily top-5 in the league, so it wasn't too surprising to see the Pats offense struggle last week. This is a nice bounce back spot for the entire offense. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
raidaz18 447 Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 2 minutes ago, FlashGordon401 said: Against one of the most cupcake matchups in the league? Not at all. The Bills defense is easily top-5 in the league, so it wasn't too surprising to see the Pats offense struggle last week. This is a nice bounce back spot for the entire offense. I hope you're right. I'd be a lot more confident in his stats if Josh Gordon didn't play like he was just an average receiver. No TE's to throw to, just James White for 8 yards. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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