1972Miamidolphins 1,374 Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 On 11/18/2019 at 11:21 PM, gimme the ball said: Drop City. Too far, I'd go Brady over rivers Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WayneFontes 316 Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 Set and forget QB1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hockeyfan77 680 Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 As long as they get Wynn back on the o-line he will be a QB1...The line has been the problem this year 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
johnnyboy8102 246 Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 7 hours ago, hockeyfan77 said: As long as they get Wynn back on the o-line he will be a QB1...The line has been the problem this year Even with Sanu out? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rather B. Winning 123 Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 3 minutes ago, johnnyboy8102 said: Even with Sanu out? Time for Harry to step up and fill that void! But I'm not optimistic it will happen.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fingers 644 Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 Tough year for this offense. No playmakers outside Edelman and White. Every scoring drive is dink and dunk with at least a couple of 3rd down conversions and absolutely nothing is coming easy. I've benched Brady for Jimmy G 😪 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
johnnyboy8102 246 Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 1 hour ago, fingers said: Tough year for this offense. No playmakers outside Edelman and White. Every scoring drive is dink and dunk with at least a couple of 3rd down conversions and absolutely nothing is coming easy. I've benched Brady for Jimmy G 😪 Allen over Brady myself. Like you said nothing comes easy for the offense. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MrPositive 886 Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 Brady’s demise is so over exaggerated. Dude is 4th in passing yards in the NFL with the worst receiving weapons in the league by far. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FreakFries 1,390 Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dashoe 6,462 Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 4 minutes ago, FreakFries said: As a well documented Brady hater, I think it is fair to say that the skills talent surrounding trubisky and the skills talent surrounding Brady are not even comparable. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ThreadKiller 729 Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 (edited) 21 minutes ago, MrPositive said: Brady’s demise is so over exaggerated. Dude is 4th in passing yards in the NFL with the worst receiving weapons in the league by far. Majority of the folks on these boards don't pay attention to anything resembling any sort of reality though so you can't expect people to know and consider that fact. All they will say is "Trubisky is league winner number 4355663534 of the season that I've mentioned lolz omg!" Edited December 6, 2019 by ThreadKiller Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FreakFries 1,390 Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 28 minutes ago, dashoe said: As a well documented Brady hater, I think it is fair to say that the skills talent surrounding trubisky and the skills talent surrounding Brady are not even comparable. Apparently they are this year! 😆 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BMcP 8,285 Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2019/11/19/patriots-tom-brady-is-no-longer-an-elite-quarterback/%3foutputType=amp Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BMcP 8,285 Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 37 minutes ago, dashoe said: As a well documented Brady hater, I think it is fair to say that the skills talent surrounding trubisky and the skills talent surrounding Brady are not even comparable. How are they not comparable? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dashoe 6,462 Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, BMcP said: How are they not comparable? bears have better skills talent. Brady has much less to work with.He hasnt even had a reliable pass catching group since the start of the season and the run game is not dominant like it was before. Imagine if Hoodie had Arob-montgomery-cohen-gabriel-miller etc etc etc Edited December 6, 2019 by dashoe 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BMcP 8,285 Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 2 hours ago, dashoe said: bears have better skills talent. Brady has much less to work with.He hasnt even had a reliable pass catching group since the start of the season and the run game is not dominant like it was before. Imagine if Hoodie had Arob-montgomery-cohen-gabriel-miller etc etc etc Much less? I don’t know about that. Is Edelman so much worse than Robinson? Is Cohen better than James White? Is there a huge talent disparity between Michel and Montgomery? The Bears do have a superior secondary target in Miller, I suppose. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dashoe 6,462 Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 35 minutes ago, BMcP said: Much less? I don’t know about that. Is Edelman so much worse than Robinson? Is Cohen better than James White? Is there a huge talent disparity between Michel and Montgomery? The Bears do have a superior secondary target in Miller, I suppose. Yes I think it's much less. Edelman. The pats have no big Wr that compares to Arob. Montgomery is more talented than Michel inmy view. Cohen is more explosive than significantly more explosive than white. Miller and Gabriel can both make big plays. So i'll take that collective group of arob+montgomery+miller+cohen+gabriel and I'l even throw in Davis over an edelman+white+michel + 2 rookie wr+dorsett everyday. That talent covers up for the massive flaws in Trubiskys game whereas Brady elevates the play of his supporting cast. Swap out QB's and the bears are leading the NFC and the pats are tanking with Miami 😂 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FreakFries 1,390 Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 (edited) 13 minutes ago, dashoe said: Yes I think it's much less. Edelman. The pats have no big Wr that compares to Arob. Montgomery is more talented than Michel inmy view. Cohen is more explosive than significantly more explosive than white. Miller and Gabriel can both make big plays. So i'll take that collective group of arob+montgomery+miller+cohen+gabriel and I'l even throw in Davis over an edelman+white+michel + 2 rookie wr+dorsett everyday. That talent covers up for the massive flaws in Trubiskys game whereas Brady elevates the play of his supporting cast. Swap out QB's and the bears are leading the NFC and the pats are tanking with Miami 😂 Brady has a much better O line. ... and a slightly better coach Edited December 6, 2019 by FreakFries Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BMcP 8,285 Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 22 minutes ago, dashoe said: Yes I think it's much less. Edelman. The pats have no big Wr that compares to Arob. Montgomery is more talented than Michel inmy view. Cohen is more explosive than significantly more explosive than white. Miller and Gabriel can both make big plays. So i'll take that collective group of arob+montgomery+miller+cohen+gabriel and I'l even throw in Davis over an edelman+white+michel + 2 rookie wr+dorsett everyday. That talent covers up for the massive flaws in Trubiskys game whereas Brady elevates the play of his supporting cast. Swap out QB's and the bears are leading the NFC and the pats are tanking with Miami 😂 Edelman is one of the most reliable, shifty, sure-handed receivers in the league. White is arguably the best satellite back in the NFL. Has Gabriel even been a factor this year? I guess we’ll have to agree to disagree - Miller probably provides the Bears with a modest talent edge, but I just don’t see this chasm of a talent disparity that you’re suggesting exists. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dashoe 6,462 Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 3 minutes ago, BMcP said: Edelman is one of the most reliable, shifty, sure-handed receivers in the league. White is arguably the best satellite back in the NFL. Has Gabriel even been a factor this year? I guess we’ll have to agree to disagree - Miller probably provides the Bears with a modest talent edge, but I just don’t see this chasm of a talent disparity that you’re suggesting exists. Interesting thing about the "talent" of the pats skills players in general very few excel outside of the Pats system. The skills talent on the Bears is clearly supporting a bad QB but my view is Brady is elevating the talent of mediocre skills players in NE. So this is why we will probably continue to disagree. There is a reason why the world was both excited and afraid to see AB+Gordon+DT on the Pats 😂 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Evincar 1,690 Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 9 hours ago, MrPositive said: Brady’s demise is so over exaggerated. Dude is 4th in passing yards in the NFL with the worst receiving weapons in the league by far. Wouldnt most QBs be 4th in passing yards if they had the 2nd most attempts facing an easy schedule? Worst receiving weapons in the league? Are Edleman and White not on the team anymore? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
colepenhagen 3,519 Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 ha making the bears sound like 2013 Denver weapons. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hockeyfan77 680 Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 1 hour ago, Evincar said: Wouldnt most QBs be 4th in passing yards if they had the 2nd most attempts facing an easy schedule? Worst receiving weapons in the league? Are Edleman and White not on the team anymore? But when teams take both away like the Texans(double Edleman and put a DB on White) who is he supposed to throw too? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hockeyfan77 680 Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 6 hours ago, FreakFries said: Brady has a much better O line. ... and a slightly better coach No, he just makes the line look better because he gets rid of the ball so quick and doesn't take sacks Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dashoe 6,462 Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 15 minutes ago, hockeyfan77 said: But when teams take both away like the Texans(double Edleman and put a DB on White) who is he supposed to throw too? I love how people think Edelman+ white are on the same talent level as the the weapons in MInn-tampa-LA-DA-GB-NO. There was a reason why peopel were writing this offense off after Gronk retired and people forget how Brady is unhappy with the newly acquired vet wr's being released or traded away. This offense is being kep alive with his arm and hi ability to exploit what the defense gives him. 😂 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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