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19 hours ago, psygolf said:

Is it actually a historical case that good teams dominate the dolling out of comp-picks?

I’ll take your word on this,  because I do not believe it has a great effect on team’s ability to maintain their talent level, which is the reason I do not care enough to look it up.

Well in order to qualify for a top compensation pick the player must have a high percentage of snaps as well as end up being paid as a top FA that year.  Usually small market teams try and extend players and not let them leave in FA.  Usually the only teams that have players leave that are that good have backup plans.

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18 hours ago, psygolf said:

Not really...

Sure, it looks like it lessens the blow of not being able to keep your players that test FA on paper...but in the end it still comes down to picking the right players, then coaching them.

 

I’ve yet to come across an evaluation that lauds what certain teams have been able to do with their comp picks over the years.

Top 10 compensatory picks this decade.

10- Marlon Mack he did pretty ok last year

9- Ricky Wagner just signed an almost 50m deal as a lineman in 2017

8- Quincy Enunwa, has talent just can't stay healthy

7- Kurt Coleman, season high of 7 picks as a 7th round compensatory pick

6- Blake Martinez, pretty good LB

5- Malcolm Smith, Super Bowl MVP

4- James Conner

3- Kyle Juszczyk, probably the top FB in the NFL

2- Dak Prescott

1- Mike Daniels DT and one of the best NFL run stoppers

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1 hour ago, daynlokki said:

Top 10 compensatory picks this decade.

10- Marlon Mack he did pretty ok last year

9- Ricky Wagner just signed an almost 50m deal as a lineman in 2017

8- Quincy Enunwa, has talent just can't stay healthy

7- Kurt Coleman, season high of 7 picks as a 7th round compensatory pick

6- Blake Martinez, pretty good LB

5- Malcolm Smith, Super Bowl MVP

4- James Conner

3- Kyle Juszczyk, probably the top FB in the NFL

2- Dak Prescott

1- Mike Daniels DT and one of the best NFL run stoppers

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1 hour ago, daynlokki said:

Well in order to qualify for a top compensation pick the player must have a high percentage of snaps as well as end up being paid as a top FA that year.  Usually small market teams try and extend players and not let them leave in FA.  Usually the only teams that have players leave that are that good have backup plans.

Nobody has had more comp picks than the Cowboys since they started giving them out.

Enough said.

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1 hour ago, psygolf said:

Nobody has had more comp picks than the Cowboys since they started giving them out.

Enough said.

Well I mean playoff team and they got their starting QB as a comp pick.  Seems like they have SOME success.  And 2nd post is right, Baltimore is the king of comp picks

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2 hours ago, joshua18 said:

 

Not true. Baltimore has been the king of comp picks. It's what's made Newsome a legendary GM.

They are neck n neck

 

But the point is the same.

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5 hours ago, psygolf said:

Nobody has had more comp picks than the Cowboys since they started giving them out.

Enough said.

NE is the true king. But instead of waiting on compensatory picks they trade players for value now instead a year or two down the road. And they trade players before they decline. Baltimore has also done a really good job of this for the most part as well like Joshua pointed out.

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9 minutes ago, devaster said:

NE is the true king. But instead of waiting on compensatory picks they trade players for value now instead a year or two down the road. And they trade players before they decline. Baltimore has also done a really good job of this for the most part as well like Joshua pointed out.

Makes sense, hey should trade Brady now then, yes?

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2 minutes ago, psygolf said:

Makes sense, hey should trade Brady now then, yes?

Probably if they had a back-up plan. But I think Kraft stepped in when they had Jimmy G and decided to do something un-Patriot and hold on to the aging player. Brady's play declined for the first time in his career in 2018.

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6 minutes ago, devaster said:

Probably if they had a back-up plan. But I think Kraft stepped in when they had Jimmy G and decided to do something un-Patriot and hold on to the aging player. Brady's play declined for the first time in his career in 2018.

So doing the opposite of what you called their “winning formula” worked out for the better for the Patriots...odd.

Looks like we just identified what has been bringing the the SB trophies...the rest is ripples of the wake.

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The compensatory draft pick game is one the Patriots have done well at.  For example, if you look back at last year the Pats traded a 3rd round compensatory pick for Trent Brown and a 5th round pick.  Trent Brown comes in and gives the Patriots a decent season at LT, was great in the playoffs, and will likely leave in free agency this year, and the Pats will likely get another compensatory pick for letting him walk.

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5 hours ago, simanium said:

The compensatory draft pick game is one the Patriots have done well at.  For example, if you look back at last year the Pats traded a 3rd round compensatory pick for Trent Brown and a 5th round pick.  Trent Brown comes in and gives the Patriots a decent season at LT, was great in the playoffs, and will likely leave in free agency this year, and the Pats will likely get another compensatory pick for letting him walk.

 

I hope not. 

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20 hours ago, psygolf said:

So doing the opposite of what you called their “winning formula” worked out for the better for the Patriots...odd.

Looks like we just identified what has been bringing the the SB trophies...the rest is ripples of the wake.

Worked out better isn't something you can prove.  Jimmy G could have not gotten injured this year if he was behind the Pats line compared to the SF line.  Brady could have left and either won it all on the new team or completely s--- the bed.  He even could have gotten injured.  You can't definitively say the Pats this year were better with Brady then they would have been with Jimmy. 

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Some interesting observations from Breer here on the value of compensatory picks and the impact of the system on contract structuring:

 

https://www.si.com/nfl/2019/02/25/robert-kraft-prostitution-charges-sex-trafficking-patriots-nfl-combine-dwayne-haskins-kyler-murray?utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=themmqb

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On 2/23/2019 at 6:29 PM, FreakFries said:

So it is kind of relevant that the NFL awards the Pats a pile of compensatory picks like they’re roughing the passer calls to Tom Brady 

 

You've been whining about the Pats for years. Opinion discarded. 

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17 hours ago, SyNdicateZ said:

This is going to be an entertaining draft. So many picks for the Pats this year. I wonder if they pick a QB earlier, later or non at all. 

It’ll be exciting for Pat fans...they might want to get in a massage before it kicks off.

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