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Daniel Vogelbach ate his soul.

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Because then they win because you’re limiting the number of ABs your best players get. Funny thought though.

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57 minutes ago, Josean Pelota said:

But e-tantrums are what forums are for 😏 (j/k)

I've had him stashed on my team, and if I had an empty IL slot I could accommodate and see what happens, but I don't so if he goes on the IL it's bye bye. 

 

 

Yeah, I just plopped him on IL. In my Fantrax league, the settings are if anyone is injured with that red flag next to them, even if they aren't on the IL yet you can place them on your IL. It's something we're changing next season (likely), but for now, I'm definitely stashing him. He has been pitching a lot better, and I truly do believe Woodward and the front office as well likely want to see him closing. One thing that still stands out to me is when somebody (I want to say Woodward) referred to him as not their best reliever or closer, but their best pitcher--period.

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7 hours ago, EduardoJorge27 said:

I still believe, hes got the stuff he just needs to get out of his head

I sure hope he finds that stuff, I invested heavily in Leclerc. It is looking like us who invested in LeclercBB probably should have dropped him a month ago. 

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6 hours ago, 89Topps said:

 

Daniel Vogelbach ate his soul.

Awesome...leclerc is pure trash now. Despite Kelley’s blowup, his era is still under 2 unlike lecrap. 

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He had pitched well until this blow up. Kelly had a couple bad games recently also, but unfortunately seems like they probably will still stick with him for quite some time. They say that want Leclerc to close eventually but that could be a while I fear. 

It's hard to say exactly what they're looking for. He has pitched better, but if they expect a month or longer of absolute perfection probably not happening. Who knows if a bad inning pushes their willingness back weeks to reinstate him as closer or not. Could be a classic case Kelly has to burn out in epic fashion for them to make Leclerc their closer, which if Kelly pitches adequately could sting badly for those thinking they drafted a stud closer. 

 

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1 hour ago, shakestreet said:

I sure hope he finds that stuff, I invested heavily in Leclerc. It is looking like us who invested in LeclercBB probably should have dropped him a month ago. 

 

A) I invested heavily in him and not once did I have plans on dropping him.

2) I would appreciate you not sending me PMs since I don’t know you. What you sent really made absolutely no sense to begin with anyways. I was confused by your comment of speculating that everyone that invested in him should have dropped him a month ago. If you would like to drop him by all means please do.

 

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2 hours ago, Dr. Whom said:

Awesome...leclerc is pure trash now. Despite Kelley’s blowup, his era is still under 2 unlike lecrap. 

 

This bitter owner is still in here crying? I wouldn’t be surprised if Leclerc gets the next save opp. 

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21 minutes ago, MoonyGray said:

 

This bitter owner is still in here crying? I wouldn’t be surprised if Leclerc gets the next save opp. 

How high does his era and whip need to be to lose the role? Wait he already lost it. Contract means nothing as cardinals are paying Cmart 10 million to setup hicks

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1 hour ago, Dr. Whom said:

How high does his era and whip need to be to lose the role? Wait he already lost it. Contract means nothing as cardinals are paying Cmart 10 million to setup hicks

 

My man step back from the ledge and use your head here. He’s been pitching lights out the last few weeks except for last night when he had cramping in both his calves.

 

The cards aren’t paying CMart 10 million to be a setup man. He would 100% be a starter if not for multiple injuries that cost him the season last year. Hell he still might return to that role this year. But he will most definitely be a starter next year if he stays healthy this year. 

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1 hour ago, MoonyGray said:

 

This bitter owner is still in here crying? I wouldn’t be surprised if Leclerc gets the next save opp. 

 

If he'd nailed yesterday's inning, maybe. But I think he's probably at least another consecutive 1-2 lights out performances, and another Kelley fail, before the Rangers move forward. 

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19 minutes ago, Josean Pelota said:

 

If he'd nailed yesterday's inning, maybe. But I think he's probably at least another consecutive 1-2 lights out performances, and another Kelley fail, before the Rangers move forward. 

 

just wish he would have thrown him heat on that pitch......something slow breaking towards him (lefty) right over the heart was just asking for it.

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2 minutes ago, Members_Only_76 said:

 

just wish he would have thrown him heat on that pitch......something slow breaking towards him (lefty) right over the heart was just asking for it.

 

Mo' Rivera used to say never get beat on your second best pitch, which is why he almost always threw a cutter even if the whole world knew it was coming. I wonder if Leclerc getting cute there was an indication he doesn't have full confidence that he can locate his heat. 

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22 minutes ago, Josean Pelota said:

 

Mo' Rivera used to say never get beat on your second best pitch, which is why he almost always threw a cutter even if the whole world knew it was coming. I wonder if Leclerc getting cute there was an indication he doesn't have full confidence that he can locate his heat. 

 

could be and makes sense to me...it has been and still is mental with him imo. 

 

yesterday wasn't a save opp but it was a big moment in a close game....I don't think he has the gull. hope he proves me wrong.

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4 minutes ago, Wytchclt55 said:

Plot twist: they stretch him out to be a 6 inning/game starter and he never has to overcome the intense anxiety of the 9th inning. 

Funny...almost as funny as the people who think he is going to close again this year

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11 minutes ago, Dr. Whom said:

Funny...almost as funny as the people who think he is going to close again this year

 

Here he is again. The most bitter Dr. I’ve ever witnessed. Sorry it didn’t work out for you on draft day when you selected him, but I’m confident he will close again!

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1 minute ago, Fantasy_Goat said:

WTF is the actual point of an opener???

 

One advantage of the strategy is that the opener, who is often a hard-throwing specialist, can be called in to face the most dangerous hitters, who are usually near the top of the batting order, the first time they come to bat.[20] If the opener is successful, the job of the next pitcher is easier since they will start with less-dangerous hitters.[27][28] The strategy also throws off the timing of the top-of-the-order hitters, who are not used to seeing different pitchers each time they come to bat, and allows the starting pitcher to face the top of the lineup two times rather than three.[20]

From a financial perspective, the strategy allows teams to make more use of relief pitchers who are still under low-paying contracts, potentially reducing the salaries paid to starting pitchers because the latter are used less.[15]

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opener_(baseball)

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2 minutes ago, Members_Only_76 said:

 

One advantage of the strategy is that the opener, who is often a hard-throwing specialist, can be called in to face the most dangerous hitters, who are usually near the top of the batting order, the first time they come to bat.[20] If the opener is successful, the job of the next pitcher is easier since they will start with less-dangerous hitters.[27][28] The strategy also throws off the timing of the top-of-the-order hitters, who are not used to seeing different pitchers each time they come to bat, and allows the starting pitcher to face the top of the lineup two times rather than three.[20]

From a financial perspective, the strategy allows teams to make more use of relief pitchers who are still under low-paying contracts, potentially reducing the salaries paid to starting pitchers because the latter are used less.[15]

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opener_(baseball)

 

One piece of silver lining is that typically the opener role goes to a trusted reliever considering they by definition are facing the best hitters on the opposing team. If they didn't have any faith in LeClerc we wouldn't be seeing him opening. So there's that. 

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3 minutes ago, Members_Only_76 said:

 

One advantage of the strategy is that the opener, who is often a hard-throwing specialist, can be called in to face the most dangerous hitters, who are usually near the top of the batting order, the first time they come to bat.[20] If the opener is successful, the job of the next pitcher is easier since they will start with less-dangerous hitters.[27][28] The strategy also throws off the timing of the top-of-the-order hitters, who are not used to seeing different pitchers each time they come to bat, and allows the starting pitcher to face the top of the lineup two times rather than three.[20]

From a financial perspective, the strategy allows teams to make more use of relief pitchers who are still under low-paying contracts, potentially reducing the salaries paid to starting pitchers because the latter are used less.[15]

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opener_(baseball)

 

I know but thanks, I was just ranting because of the mess Leclerc has made of my relievers. I’m only to blame as I’ve held onto him far to long.

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