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From Adam Caplan   #Raiders HC Jon Gruden on RB Josh Jacobs after practice today when asked how he looked this week: "Pretty good. He got work all three days. I think that's a good sign.

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I'm wondering if the shut down talk is a little bit premature, although the rod smith signing is interesting.

Oakland has yet to be truly eliminated from the playoffs, and Gruden doesnt sound like someone who's ready to pack it in.

 

Jacobs also sounded really close last week. He took a pain shot in order to play and was crushed when they decided against it.

 

All in all, he seems like someone who wants to push to play and I'm not sure why the raiders wouldn't have shut him down already if the plan was to do so.

Maybe playing a bit of devils advocate here, but just some thoughts to ponder from the other side of things.

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10 minutes ago, vikingapocalypse said:

I'm wondering if the shut down talk is a little bit premature, although the rod smith signing is interesting.

Oakland has yet to be truly eliminated from the playoffs, and Gruden doesnt sound like someone who's ready to pack it in.

 

Jacobs also sounded really close last week. He took a pain shot in order to play and was crushed when they decided against it.

 

All in all, he seems like someone who wants to push to play and I'm not sure why the raiders wouldn't have shut him down already if the plan was to do so.

Maybe playing a bit of devils advocate here, but just some thoughts to ponder from the other side of things.

 

Some of the debate shoudl be: Will you start him if he plays? 

 

WIth the injury risk, i think most will still be hard pressed to do so.

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Probably a stretch but reading into JJ's tweets..

In the past, when there were initial concerns about his shoulder injury in late Oct and him missing games he tweeted stuff like this:

 

Obviously implying and re-assuring that he's healthy to those speculating.

Now watch the tone of this tweet just yesterday:

Sounds like he's frustrated about not playing and is lashing out to those speculating.

Does it indicate something? Maybe. Is this considered a stretch? Probably.

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2 minutes ago, jamesisharden said:

 

Some of the debate shoudl be: Will you start him if he plays? 

 

WIth the injury risk, i think most will still be hard pressed to do so.

 

Just now, Espoiral said:

Probably a stretch but reading into JJ's tweets..

In the past, when there were initial concerns about his shoulder injury in late Oct and him missing games he tweeted stuff like this:

 

Obviously implying and re-assuring that he's healthy to those speculating.

Now watch the tone of this tweet just yesterday:

Sounds like he's frustrated about not playing and is lashing out to those speculating.

Does it indicate something? Maybe. Is this considered a stretch? Probably.

I definitely don't think its a certainty that he'll sit out. Seems like he wants to fight through it and play but it's up to the medical staff/coaches to decide what's best for him. Think it'll be a GTD again

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4 minutes ago, Espoiral said:

Probably a stretch but reading into JJ's tweets..

In the past, when there were initial concerns about his shoulder injury in late Oct and him missing games he tweeted stuff like this:

 

Obviously implying and re-assuring that he's healthy to those speculating.

Now watch the tone of this tweet just yesterday:

Sounds like he's frustrated about not playing and is lashing out to those speculating.

Does it indicate something? Maybe. Is this considered a stretch? Probably.

Not a stretch at all. This is precisely the type of info that actually carries the most weight IMO. Because it's real. The coach speak, beat writers, practice reports, etc. are all nonsense. This is often where you get the actual truth. We saw it last week with the news coming out about the broken shoulder, at first seemingly randomly. It wasn't random. He was likely informed they were shutting him down, or at the very least sitting him that week. I'd be shocked if we saw him again ROS. 

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3 minutes ago, jamesisharden said:

 

Some of the debate shoudl be: Will you start him if he plays? 

 

WIth the injury risk, i think most will still be hard pressed to do so.

 

I think to me personally, if the raiders feel confident and put him out there you have to feel decent about his ability to stay in the game. Always a risk - but options could be limited at this point.

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Fantasy aside Jacobs is a potential franchise player for the Raiders.  They risk his whole career by putting him back in when he is not ready.  Ownership has to be thinking about having their star running back for Vegas next season

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1 hour ago, vikingapocalypse said:

I'm wondering if the shut down talk is a little bit premature, although the rod smith signing is interesting.

Oakland has yet to be truly eliminated from the playoffs, and Gruden doesnt sound like someone who's ready to pack it in.

 

Jacobs also sounded really close last week. He took a pain shot in order to play and was crushed when they decided against it.

 

All in all, he seems like someone who wants to push to play and I'm not sure why the raiders wouldn't have shut him down already if the plan was to do so.

Maybe playing a bit of devils advocate here, but just some thoughts to ponder from the other side of things.

I appreciate this perspective. There hasn’t been any final news yet. But the signing of Smith means a lot. That’s the real actionable piece of news here. I’ll be shocked if Jacobs suits up again, and, honestly, disappointed, but I’m expecting news of a shutdown today or tomorrow. We’ll see though. If it’s a pain tolerance thing he might play...just hard to see them sitting him in a must win vs Tennessee and then saying okay go ahead now that the season is virtually over. 

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1 hour ago, lla887 said:

Fantasy aside Jacobs is a potential franchise player for the Raiders.  They risk his whole career by putting him back in when he is not ready.  Ownership has to be thinking about having their star running back for Vegas next season

If there is any risk of this being a career ender, I'm pretty sure the Raiders wouldn't let him play.

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7 minutes ago, vthokie3 said:

halfway there. Not surprised as I'm facing him in multiple leagues

Since Rapaport reported the latest positive news I'd say you're about 10% there. Since he's wrong so often it may actually be bad news 😂

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1 minute ago, nmartinez12443 said:

Hard to be wrong about a clean MRI what reason does he have to sit now?

It was a joke serious guy, I'm not trying to imply Jacobs will sit. But you do realize Rapaport is a moron and has tweeted plenty of inaccurate news right?

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