Popular Post oswald737 2,967 Posted May 1, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted May 1, 2019 What do you say to the God of Blown Saves? Not Today (unless you’re Jose Leclerc) 6 1 4 Link to post Share on other sites
hangin n wangin 1,703 Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 It’s a new month and LeClerc still sucks. 4 Link to post Share on other sites
Denbo32 235 Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 Any info on cubs? Is strop injury a 1 day thing? Cant find anything on why he wasnt available today. Link to post Share on other sites
Helms 262 Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 Cram it up your cram hole LeClerc! 4 Link to post Share on other sites
ASHLANDARROWS1992 2,107 Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 2 hours ago, Helms said: Cram it up your cram hole LeClerc! DODGEBALL 1 Link to post Share on other sites
pbjfb 780 Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 3 hours ago, Denbo32 said: Any info on cubs? Is strop injury a 1 day thing? Cant find anything on why he wasnt available today. Probably gave him rest because he pitched 2 innings on Sunday, and portably going back to committee with cishek from now on Link to post Share on other sites
Kramjam24 225 Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 What's the deal with jeffress Link to post Share on other sites
FootballFan101 350 Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 Chris Woodward says he will discuss Jose LeClerc's "immediate situation" (compared to after LeClerc's previous blowups where Woodward said right after the game that LeClerc was still his closer going forward) Translation: LeClerc is out as closer, but I need to talk to him first before I make it official You cannot say Woodward did not give LeClerc every possible opportunity to keep his closer's role. LeClerc really had no business keeping the closer's job after his 2nd meltdown against Arizona, let alone after the Houston meltdown. I'm sure Woodward will say later today that they are only temporarily removing LeClerc from the closer's role because managers always say that since they don't want to totally destroy the pitcher's confidence. However, if the replacement is doing well, managers seldom switch back. It's not a particularly hard job (for anyone else other than Jose LeClerc) to pitch 1 inning and protect a 2 or 3 run lead, so I think either Kelley or Martin will do fine as closer. In a blood-for-saves league, I've been stashing Kelley since LeClerc's 2nd blowup against Arizona, but based on last night's usage, I'm concerned it's going to be Martin (who is already stashed by someone else) that gets the job over Kelley. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post pbjfb 780 Posted May 1, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted May 1, 2019 2 hours ago, Kramjam24 said: What's the deal with jeffress 12 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Fantasy_Goat 53 Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 11 minutes ago, FootballFan101 said: Chris Woodward says he will discuss Jose LeClerc's "immediate situation" (compared to after LeClerc's previous blowups where Woodward said right after the game that LeClerc was still his closer going forward) Translation: LeClerc is out as closer, but I need to talk to him first before I make it official You cannot say Woodward did not give LeClerc every possible opportunity to keep his closer's role. LeClerc really had no business keeping the closer's job after his 2nd meltdown against Arizona, let alone after the Houston meltdown. I'm sure Woodward will say later today that they are only temporarily removing LeClerc from the closer's role because managers always say that since they don't want to totally destroy the pitcher's confidence. However, if the replacement is doing well, managers seldom switch back. It's not a particularly hard job (for anyone else other than Jose LeClerc) to pitch 1 inning and protect a 2 or 3 run lead, so I think either Kelley or Martin will do fine as closer. In a blood-for-saves league, I've been stashing Kelley since LeClerc's 2nd blowup against Arizona, but based on last night's usage, I'm concerned it's going to be Martin (who is already stashed by someone else) that gets the job over Kelley. Was just thinking that about Martin. RR & CM both has him as next in line over Kelley. Link to post Share on other sites
WahooManiac 2,002 Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 For the speculators, make sure you grab CHRIS Martin. There's two Martins on that squad, lol i almost screwed that up. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Baur10 2,147 Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 6 hours ago, oswald737 said: What do you say to the God of Blown Saves? 7 Link to post Share on other sites
fletch44 1,531 Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 7 hours ago, Denbo32 said: Any info on cubs? Is strop injury a 1 day thing? Cant find anything on why he wasnt available today. 3 hours ago, pbjfb said: Probably gave him rest because he pitched 2 innings on Sunday, and portably going back to committee with cishek from now on I looked at Strop's game log last year (didn't look past 2018). He pitched 2 inning three times last year. Each time he had at least 3 days rest before his next appearance. I'm guessing it's just an extra day off after a longer than usual appearance. I don't see any reason this turns into a committee. Strop has been just fine. Link to post Share on other sites
urban2014 1,741 Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 More of a bench coach question but if you have one move left this week would you gamble on Kelly or Robles. Really need saves Link to post Share on other sites
pbjfb 780 Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 7 minutes ago, urban2014 said: More of a bench coach question but if you have one move left this week would you gamble on Kelly or Robles. Really need saves Robles for me Link to post Share on other sites
shakestreet 4,103 Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 7 hours ago, hangin n wangin said: It’s a new month and LeClerc still sucks. I was fooled into believing. All in. I had the winning card, I drafted LeClerc. https://www.pitcherlist.com/going-deep-jose-leclerc-could-be-baseballs-best-reliever/ http://rotoprofessor.com/searching-for-saves-could-jose-leclerc-emerge-as-a-top-10-closer/ then add all the love in our preseason closer thread ... 1 Link to post Share on other sites
BostonCajun 1,696 Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 11 minutes ago, urban2014 said: More of a bench coach question but if you have one move left this week would you gamble on Kelly or Robles. Really need saves Robles for me as well. He's already been used in that role this year whereas Kelly has not. I think Leclerc is more likely to get his role back than Allen is. Allen has shown signs he's not what he used to be for a couple years now. Leclerc was lights out last year so I think they give him an opportunity to figure things out and get his job back. Also there's talk that Martin could get an opportunity to take it while Leclerc is "figuring things out." Link to post Share on other sites
urban2014 1,741 Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 Yeah I heard about that Martin dude from Razzball... Link to post Share on other sites
reichl555 818 Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 36 minutes ago, urban2014 said: More of a bench coach question but if you have one move left this week would you gamble on Kelly or Robles. Really need saves I still think Robles and Buttery are tangled in a committee. Buttery was used last night for the heart of order in the eighth. It’s going to be a matchup thing... I would lean more toward Kelley than Martin just because the fact that he has closer experience and is pitching well this year. That’s not to say Martin can’t do it either. Wouldn’t be shocked either way. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Fantasy_Goat 53 Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 1 minute ago, reichl555 said: I still think Robles and Buttery are tangled in a committee. Buttery was used last night for the heart of order in the eighth. It’s going to be a matchup thing... I would lean more toward Kelley than Martin just because the fact that he has closer experience and is pitching well this year. That’s not to say Martin can’t do it either. Wouldn’t be shocked either way. Agree with above plus would lean Martin as temporary closer in Texas Link to post Share on other sites
pbjfb 780 Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 I'm ranking the questionable/volatile closers/relievers like this starting at #19: 19. Brasier 20. Neris 21. Leclerc 22. Parker 23. Strop 24. Robles 25. Alvarado 26. Romo 27. Pagan 28. Kelley 29. Swarzak 30. Webb 31. Jackson 32. Buttrey 33. Rogers 34. Cishek 35. Elias 36. Givens 37. Martin 38. Barnes 39. Castillo 40. Peralta 41. Minter 42. Kennedy change my mind 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Slatykamora 2,827 Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 # of times appeared from tie to 3 run lead Rangers Kelley 6th inning 1 Kelley 7th inning 3 Kelley 8th inning 2 Kelley 9th inning 1 Martin 8th inning 7 Martin 9th inning 3 Angles Buttrey 7th inning 2 Buttrey 8th inning 5 Robles 8th inning 3 Robles 9th inning 3 Leverage Innings: High (Medium) Rangers Martin 5.0 (2.1) Kelley 1.2 (5.1) Angles Buttrey 5.1 (6.1) Robles 1.1 (4.1) Usage and leverage points towards Martin. While Leverage did point towards Buttrey. Its the fact that he's been used as the primary fireman, while Robles has a dedicated role that makes him the bet for saves. Kelley also seems to be used all over the place like Buttrey. Which again, favors Martin in a dedicated role. 1 5 Link to post Share on other sites
BostonCajun 1,696 Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 I just have to tout this thread for once again proving to me that its not worth investing a lot in saves on draft day (at least in my league). I did not draft a single closer this year but currently have Holland, Parker, Minter and Robles. I know the latter two are in question but I'll be adding more for sure thanks in large part to everyone who contributes to this thread. Thank you! 5 Link to post Share on other sites
Cmilne23 10,559 Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 Chris Martin sucks. Why would he get the job? Career 5.14 era, 1.41 whip, 108 hits in 89 IP. He isn’t even pitching well this year. Shawn Kelley is pitching good, has had a good career. Seems like a pretty obvious choice unless the Rangers enjoy losing games. If they’re in business of losing then Chris Martin will be the closer. I’ll laugh seeing him face heart of orders and destroy ratios if that’s the case. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
urban2014 1,741 Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 10 minutes ago, Cmilne23 said: Chris Martin sucks. Why would he get the job? Career 5.14 era, 1.41 whip, 108 hits in 89 IP. He isn’t even pitching well this year. Shawn Kelley is pitching good, has had a good career. Seems like a pretty obvious choice unless the Rangers enjoy losing games. If they’re in business of losing then Chris Martin will be the closer. I’ll laugh seeing him face heart of orders and destroy ratios if that’s the case. Cause he has good songs lol 2 Link to post Share on other sites
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