pastorofmuppets2 10,634 Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 11 minutes ago, herschel said: Did Williams Wally Pipp Mack? yes. the kid is a flat-out better runner than Mack - case closed. 8 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CowboysFan 28 Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 Hines actually looked like the better runner than Williams last night. Williams looked slow and doesn't have the burst Hines does. That's why Hines was able to break through the LOS when most of Williams' runs got stuffed for a few years. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Impreza178 6,046 Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 (edited) 36 minutes ago, CowboysFan said: Hines actually looked like the better runner than Williams last night. Williams looked slow and doesn't have the burst Hines does. That's why Hines was able to break through the LOS when most of Williams' runs got stuffed for a few years. Williams did fine- They needed a banger with fresh legs who could handle a large workload without breaking or embarrassing himself. JWill can certainly do that. He’s bounced around the league because of that ability. Might have even made a case to be the primary backup ROS when MM returns. It’s not like Wilkins has done much of anything. That’s really as far as it goes with Williams. I wouldn’t seriously entertain speculation that’s hes moved ahead of Mack- who is the complete package. Edited November 22, 2019 by Impreza178 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
vthokie3 1,371 Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 Was waiting for people to say he is better than mack 😂 every backup RB thread 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WaiverLooter 931 Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 The only difference is they ran Williams into the ground and he got going as the game went on. With Mack, they are careful to preserve him, probably due to injury concerns. He's not better than Mack lol. Takes what he is given and runs hard. Besides that KC game, Mack never got 29+ touches in a game and also subbed out on GL downs a lot. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dmody91 160 Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 He definitely lacks explosiveness but running behind that o line will give him rb2 numbers with rb1 upside Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FitzMagic 4,260 Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 9 minutes ago, WaiverLooter said: The only difference is they ran Williams into the ground and he got going as the game went on. With Mack, they are careful to preserve him, probably due to injury concerns. He's not better than Mack lol. Takes what he is given and runs hard. Besides that KC game, Mack never got 29+ touches in a game and also subbed out on GL downs a lot. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FritzLn 866 Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, vthokie3 said: Was waiting for people to say he is better than mack 😂 every backup RB thread that's pretty much all fantasy football is; waiting for the backup RB to take over Edited November 22, 2019 by FritzLn 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pastorofmuppets2 10,634 Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 2 hours ago, vthokie3 said: Was waiting for people to say he is better than mack 😂 every backup RB thread ... aaaaaaand tgat's why i obliged so early - figured we'd get it out the way PDQ. (and some took it verbatim 😂) 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cokey 16 Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 (edited) [...] I figure he comes back week 14/15 but is limited due to injury...on top of that his schedule is terrible and let’s be honest Mack hasn’t had but 3 great games all year but due to the amount of carries he gets it keeps him in the rb2 conversation... but if he comes back and is limited on top of a bad schedule how much can we really expect from him ??? Am I making sense ? What are you Guys thoughts? Edited November 24, 2019 by tonycpsu Removed Cool Story Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kick_it_like-OBJ 49 Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 12 hours ago, Cokey said: [...] I figure he comes back week 14/15 but is limited due to injury...on top of that his schedule is terrible and let’s be honest Mack hasn’t had but 3 great games all year but due to the amount of carries he gets it keeps him in the rb2 conversation... but if he comes back and is limited on top of a bad schedule how much can we really expect from him ??? Am I making sense ? What are you Guys thoughts? Exactly the thoughts I have and mentioned in another thread. I think nobody should blame you if you would drop him. Let’s say you need handcuffs for the playoff run (maybe as a Zeke, Barkley or Cook owner); I rather be safe with the handcuffs instead of Mack you maybe cannot play before week 15/16! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Funkenstein 979 Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 (edited) Williams isnt a better runner than Mack. We can see that with our eyes. That isnt the problem. The problem is that he is running well enough to warrant getting touches if/when Mack comes back. I dropped Mack this morning. [...] probably not brave enough to start Mack in a timeshare with Williams, Wilkins and Hines in week 15 anyway. Edited November 24, 2019 by tonycpsu Removed Cool Story Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jagsfan05 601 Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 Yeah this is a tough decision. I'm going back and forth on whether to drop him or not. I really need the RB depth but it's hard to leave him on my bench as well. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Impreza178 6,046 Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 2 hours ago, Funkenstein said: Williams isnt a better runner than Mack. We can see that with our eyes. That isnt the problem. The problem is that he is running well enough to warrant getting touches if/when Mack comes back. I dropped Mack this morning. [...] probably not brave enough to start Mack in a timeshare with Williams, Wilkins and Hines in week 15 anyway. the answer is - doubtful. But a fair query. Mack is about the safest 20 touches in the game. But how’s the hand when he returns? Is Indy fighting for playoffs? If he’s healthy, there’s no doubt they’ll use him. I’m going to hang tight on this one. Demarco Murray had this same injury and missed only one game. It’s very possible mack returns next week. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cokey 16 Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 6 hours ago, Impreza178 said: the answer is - doubtful. But a fair query. Mack is about the safest 20 touches in the game. But how’s the hand when he returns? Is Indy fighting for playoffs? If he’s healthy, there’s no doubt they’ll use him. I’m going to hang tight on this one. Demarco Murray had this same injury and missed only one game. It’s very possible mack returns next week. Are you sure it was the same injury ? Like I said I’m just worried with him being banged up they are conservative with him when he returns because imo Mack isn’t that hot if he’s not getting 20 touches Quote Link to post Share on other sites
herschel 1,990 Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 we expecting him back this season? he was dropped in my league and trying to figure out if hes worth the stash.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JoeJoe88 1,164 Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 5 minutes ago, herschel said: we expecting him back this season? he was dropped in my league and trying to figure out if hes worth the stash.... If he was dropped I’d probably pick him up. I would expect him to miss at least one more game after this week, though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nonstopfan 4,593 Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 (edited) 25 minutes ago, herschel said: we expecting him back this season? he was dropped in my league and trying to figure out if hes worth the stash.... 100% yes. For some owners, there is the potential for a month more of fantasy football. Edited November 27, 2019 by nonstopfan 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cokey 16 Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 They say he is targeting being back week 14 would you guys play him seems like a wait and watch situation... thoughts ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gmoneypm 62 Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 I would assume he’s well rested and ready to go. Running shouldn’t be a problem, It was only a hand injury and not an ankle or hamstring. My biggest concern is the Tampa Bay rush defense in week 14 than anything else Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hero202 477 Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 12 hours ago, gmoneypm said: I would assume he’s well rested and ready to go. Running shouldn’t be a problem, It was only a hand injury and not an ankle or hamstring. My biggest concern is the Tampa Bay rush defense in week 14 than anything else Sounds like he may be ready next week, and the Colts are in mist-win mode...but yeah I don’t know where to rank him. Tampa bottled up Fournette today on the ground. The only reason he had a decent game was because of being targeted 11 times; which would take about 11 games for Mack to get that many targets. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sivaro 943 Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 Well, From what I have seen this day, they need Mack back worse than I thought. Mack is the obvious NO 1 and I cant wait to get him back. I am sure the team is thinking the same thing. I would expect him back week 14. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fantasymad 377 Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 If he is active this week you have to start him. Colts are in must win mode and they got NOTHING from Wilkins/Williams last week. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gmoneypm 62 Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 Sooooooooooo he is back at practice today. Are we starting him in Tampa Bay against the best rush defense? I would feel a lot better about this decision if I knew he had some type of role in the passing game. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hero202 477 Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 30 minutes ago, gmoneypm said: Sooooooooooo he is back at practice today. Are we starting him in Tampa Bay against the best rush defense? I would feel a lot better about this decision if I knew he had some type of role in the passing game. I'm reluctant to play him...Fournette had 38 yards on 14 carries last week against Tampa. I think Mack would need a TD to put up a respectable RB2 outing. Its very unlikely he is going to be rushing for 100+ yards. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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