BMcP 8,580 Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 4 minutes ago, duke of queens said: Dont listen to the Daily News. They fired all their good sports reporters. Understood - but presumably that was a sourced story. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
meh2 3,482 Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 50 minutes ago, BMcP said: You’re right. Crazy on their part. And shows how extortionate these offers were that Cashman was considering. Extortionate? If the Yankees were offering enticing offers, they could’ve made a deal. There wasn’t some elaborate conspiracy going on to prevent the Yankees from upgrading at the deadline. Frazier is basically a 1 WAR player. Everyone seems to realize this except Yankees fans. Andujar has always been a bit polarizing. He wasn’t good defensively at 3rd and now will be trying to return from labrum surgery. There’s a very real chance he’s a 1b/dh going forward. The Mets are set at first with Alonso and McNeil & Conforto are much better corner of options than Frazier. At some point Cashman needed to start offering up more than his spare parts to get something in return. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
96mnc 6,747 Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 2 minutes ago, meh2 said: Extortionate? If the Yankees were offering enticing offers, they could’ve made a deal. There wasn’t some elaborate conspiracy going on to prevent the Yankees from upgrading at the deadline. Frazier is basically a 1 WAR player. Everyone seems to realize this except Yankees fans. Andujar has always been a bit polarizing. He wasn’t good defensively at 3rd and now will be trying to return from labrum surgery. There’s a very real chance he’s a 1b/dh going forward. The Mets are set at first with Alonso and McNeil & Conforto are much better corner of options than Frazier. At some point Cashman needed to start offering up more than his spare parts to get something in return. I'm not a Yankee fan at all and I think people are underselling Frazier. I'd take him alone for an expiring Wheeler. McNeil should be at 3b, not LF. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BMcP 8,580 Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 Just now, meh2 said: Extortionate? If the Yankees were offering enticing offers, they could’ve made a deal. There wasn’t some elaborate conspiracy going on to prevent the Yankees from upgrading at the deadline. Frazier is basically a 1 WAR player. Everyone seems to realize this except Yankees fans. Andujar has always been a bit polarizing. He wasn’t good defensively at 3rd and now will be trying to return from labrum surgery. There’s a very real chance he’s a 1b/dh going forward. The Mets are set at first with Alonso and McNeil & Conforto are much better corner of options than Frazier. At some point Cashman needed to start offering up more than his spare parts to get something in return. “Extortionate” in that teams fully understood the Yankees’ predicament and used that against them to ratchet up the price. It has nothing to do with a “conspiracy.” Describing these guys as “spare parts” is a little off-base, IMO. They are both very good players, as they have shown. Trying to extrapolate from Frazier his yearly average WAR is a fool’s errand at the moment. Yeah, I think they were right not to cave for even more than was offered for Wheeler, of all people. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Slatykamora 2,826 Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 Sometimes you just have use common sense. That trade offer from the Yankees doesn't make sense UNLESS it was a sign and trade. IMO Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Slatykamora 2,826 Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 2 minutes ago, Backdoor Slider said: You know those guys pitch on the road as well, and all of this data is taken into account, right? And that their pathetic offense factors into that too, right? So you are saying that is factored in? Glad we agree. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Backdoor Slider 8,291 Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 10 minutes ago, Slatykamora said: So you are saying that is factored in? Glad we agree. Yeah, and it all evens out, giving us a decent picture of how the park plays for everyone. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fuzzy_Slippers 3,933 Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 [Enough with the snarky comments. Take your nonsense to PM if you guys can't communicate civilly.] Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Slatykamora 2,826 Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 (edited) 34 minutes ago, Backdoor Slider said: Yeah, and it all evens out, giving us a decent picture of how the park plays for everyone. Park factors are useful, but flawed and limited. There is a reason why we have so many variations of it and not a standard one. They still have to take all their raw data from players. The more years you enter into the formula. The better and overall run factors are. Which have major human influences. I prefer Stat Corners data set because it is both 3 years and breaks everything down. Comerica is objectively harder to hit HRs out then league average..but the break down of all the outcomes shines the light on why it ends "average". GBs turn into hits and errors at at an above average rate in comparison to other ball parks. This reason is 100% human and not the park itself. My concern with Boyd is the rate of HRs he gives up, not his BABIP or LOB. That the 3.49 FIP would rise in a new environment. Even if his defense gave him better support on GBs. I'm perfectly aware he is has given up less HRs on the road so far..but he also has this big difference in K% Between home/road. Which feels like a lot of that is noise. 32 minutes ago, Fuzzy_Slippers said: [Enough with the snarky comments. Take your nonsense to PM if you guys can't communicate civilly.] Was getting to the point. Just needed to have a bit of fun to get there. Edited August 2, 2019 by Slatykamora 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Big Bat Theory 7,514 Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 4 hours ago, 96mnc said: I'm not a Yankee fan at all and I think people are underselling Frazier. I'd take him alone for an expiring Wheeler. McNeil should be at 3b, not LF. I agree. Wheeler is a rental. Rentals don't bring in the big offers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AnonymousRob 3,486 Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 Meanwhile, in Oakland... 3 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ItsMeMario 119 Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 (edited) Fishing for the most underrated prospect dealt at the deadline Mystery Player Edited August 2, 2019 by ItsMeMario 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MSkibisky 825 Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 4 hours ago, ItsMeMario said: Fishing for the most underrated prospect dealt at the deadline Mystery Player Interesting read. Power and exit velo is nice, but his slash line isn't too sexy, especially batting in the low .200's through a good chunk of the season. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
meh2 3,482 Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 6 hours ago, AnonymousRob said: Meanwhile, in Oakland... Pfffft, he’s not in Yahoo yet! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Backdoor Slider 8,291 Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 On 7/31/2019 at 5:26 PM, The Big Bat Theory said: The Detroit Tigers announced today that they didn't get a good haul at all. How’s Greene doing? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ItsMeMario 119 Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 (edited) Who cares about Detroit they play in a s--- stadium that supress homerun, no position player wants to play in that ****hole How's you whole franchise doing with an albatros contract like Miguel Cabrera. Worst team in the league. Joey Wentz is a back end starter reliever ooohhhh big deal Edited August 11, 2019 by ItsMeMario 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Backdoor Slider 8,291 Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 14 minutes ago, ItsMeMario said: Who cares about Detroit they play in a s--- stadium that supress homerun, no position player wants to play in that ****hole How's you whole franchise doing with an albatros contract like Miguel Cabrera. Worst team in the league. Joey Wentz is a back end starter reliever ooohhhh big deal Who hurt you? They dumped a crap RP and got value for him. It was a solid move. Their minor league system (almost all pitching) is now top 10. The stadium plays middle of the road for runs/home runs. Thanks for caring so much. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cmilne23 10,559 Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 28 minutes ago, ItsMeMario said: Who cares about Detroit they play in a s--- stadium that supress homerun, no position player wants to play in that ****hole How's you whole franchise doing with an albatros contract like Miguel Cabrera. Worst team in the league. Joey Wentz is a back end starter reliever ooohhhh big deal Damn dawg why you have to pick on a 45 win aspiration team? What’s next you’ll tell us the Mariners moves for Mike Leake and loser relievers were underwhelming? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post CounterPunch 124 Posted August 11, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted August 11, 2019 6 minutes ago, ItsMeMario said: They are the worst team in the league Wellllll..... lets be honest, the orioles are pretty bad. 2 9 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sternes 5,010 Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 11 hours ago, CounterPunch said: Wellllll..... lets be honest, the orioles are pretty bad. LOL! Reminds me of this classic 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BMcP 8,580 Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 18 hours ago, CounterPunch said: Wellllll..... lets be honest, the orioles are pretty bad. Awesome post - and living up to your username perfectly! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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