Brandon Clarke 2019-2020 Outlook

[Monkeyking69 286]

Just now, Lifschitz said:

Check out the games where he gets around 25 min, the lines are pretty disgusting.

Charlotte - 18/5/3/1/3 and 1 3

OKC - 27 / 7 / 1 on 13/19 shooting

Indiana - 17 / 4 / 1 and 1 block and 1 3

GS - 17/5/3/1/1

Denver - 19/5/1 and 2 3's

Orlando - 13/6/1 and 1 block and 1 3

BKN - 10/7/2/1/1

Chicago - 14/5/1/1/3 

His massive efficiency alone should encourage them to get him more involved, because he's so damn good at hitting floaters and knowing how/when to roll/pop properly.

It's all there waiting to be unleashed, just needs consistent minutes.

Hard to justify his playing time when JJJ, and jonas have been playing lights out as of late... and they've been managing to win games... 

[darkyume 939]

12 minutes ago, Lifschitz said:

 

It's also the low end 1 / 1 / 1 appeal with bigger minutes, he's at .5, .4, .8 in just 21 min, he shoots 43% on 3's and should be given more attempts (1.2 currently), and partially those numbers have come down because it's hard to develop consistency when one game you're playing 25 min and the next 3 games you're playing 15-16. The potential is there to be that type of player, but he needs a consistent minute ramp up. I think if he keeps declining like this into about late January and there are no signs that he's going to get a consistent heavy dose of minutes moving forward, he can be safely considered a drop, but for now there are enough good lines sprinkled inbetween to make him a hold.  

Good mention on the 3s - the highest FG% impact players tend to provide nothing on 3s (because FG% and 3s are pretty much inversely related), so it’s actually nice to know that he can chip in at least a little bit. He’d be awesome if more opportunity allows him to chip in a bit more while retaining the great FG% to some degree.

[Fantasyscrub 365]

1 hour ago, darkyume said:

 

I quoted myself so I don’t have to repeat myself. The shot attempts are low but the math still comes out to #5 OVERALL in positive FG% impact. I’m okay if you don’t think that’s valuable, but please don’t misrepresent the actual mathematical value and impact by presenting the low shot attempts. You’re right that he doesn’t help with FT% much, but bigs that don’t hurt in FT% are also rare. For a team trying to boost FG% without hurting FT%, Brandon Clarke is incredibly valuable.

fantastic except I’m not punting 7 categories.  It’s disingenuous to punt everything but fg + ft and say “see, he’s number 5.  He’s valuable”.  His fg impact is minor given his low volume

 

last week, he helped move the needle on my fg% from 46 to 46.3... Big freakin deal.  But you know what hurt?  His 8 ppg, 0 threes, 0 steals, 2 assists totals.

Edited January 8, 2020 by Fantasyscrub

[theantishere 717]

lol 

[LuSamSiam 2,981]

13 minutes ago, Fantasyscrub said:

His fg impact is minor given his low volume

 

He's 8th in the entire league in fg% impact

[darkyume 939]

36 minutes ago, Fantasyscrub said:

fantastic except I’m not punting 7 categories to take advantage of his contributions.  It’s disingenuous to punt all those categories and say “see, he’s number 5.  He’s valuable”.  His fg impact is minor given his low volume

 

"Punting 7 categories" is a gross exaggeration.

For people not familiar with z-scores on BBM - it's important to know that 0.00 across all categories would amount to around #60 overall (so 5th/6th round value). Right now Gallo is 0.00 and he's at #60 overall, which is the definition of "average".

It's readily obvious that he doesn't "punt" you in 7 categories. He gives a huge boost in FG%/TO, pretty average in reb/blk/FT% (and again, it's important to keep in mind that a player with every category "average" provides #60 overall value), while hurting you in pts/3s/ast/stl to varying degrees. 

What's disingenuous is claiming that he "punts you in 7 categories" with absolutely no numbers or facts to back it up. Do better.

Edited January 8, 2020 by darkyume

[iowncrazyhair 1,260]

35 minutes ago, Fantasyscrub said:

fantastic except I’m not punting 7 categories.  It’s disingenuous to punt everything but fg + ft and say “see, he’s number 5.  He’s valuable”.  His fg impact is minor given his low volume

 

last week, he helped move the needle on my fg% from 46 to 46.3... Big freakin deal.  But you know what hurt?  His 8 ppg, 0 threes, 0 steals, 2 assists totals.

drop him now so he can give us a double double next game

[ItzJaBoiSam 124]

I'm holding strong on this guy in my 14 teamer. There's just too many reasons for me to hold. He's a productive big who provides me with average stats and doesn't hurt me anywhere. He's on a **** team with the possibility of seeing an increase in PT once the season is over. He has the potential to get better towards the end of the season. I would rather hold him and end up being wrong rather than dropping him and seeing him become a league winner for someone else. I'm really not just holding because of the fear of someone else gaining from him. I'm holding because he DOES have the potential to be a league winner, and if he ain't, I'm sure he's better than a lot of players on the wire.

Worst comes to worst, I will use him as a streaming spot during playoff time when I have nothing else to lose.

[darkyume 939]

49 minutes ago, Fantasyscrub said:

last week, he helped move the needle on my fg% from 46 to 46.3... Big freakin deal.  But you know what hurt?  His 8 ppg, 0 threes, 0 steals, 2 assists totals.

 

Didn't see that you edited and added this. Last week was not a good week, and his FG% impact was just +0.67, whereas he averages +2.15 over the entire season which is roughly 3 times more impactful (and pretty incredible).

It's very normal for a rookie coming off the bench to have a bad one week stretch. If that's a trade-off you can't handle, or he's not what you're looking for in your team, I suggest that you swap for a hot free agent or a boring vet. It doesn't sound like you understand his value, so I also don't understand why you're holding him in the first place.

Edited January 8, 2020 by darkyume

[hi_its_kawhi 12]

On 1/7/2020 at 8:11 PM, Fantasyscrub said:

there’s normal Powell, culver, bjelica

Yeaaah culver is not a good pick up unless youre punting all efficiency categories. Hes like the complete opposite of brandon clarke.

Norman powell is historically not that good in fantasy even with opportunities. Personally i think his good run before injury was just an extended hot streak. Hard negative regression to the mean inc.

Bjelica is solid for now. Him and clarke can be swapped depending on what you need. Clarke helps my efficiency stats though, which im not punting, and it's paying off. Long term i say clarke is still much better, even if his minutes are capped at 25 min.

 

[Monkeyking69 286]

DJJ on Miami might be a great pick up 

[Purple Hippo 1,365]

On 1/8/2020 at 12:38 AM, Fantasyscrub said:

fantastic except I’m not punting 7 categories.  It’s disingenuous to punt everything but fg + ft and say “see, he’s number 5.  He’s valuable”.  His fg impact is minor given his low volume

 

last week, he helped move the needle on my fg% from 46 to 46.3... Big freakin deal.  But you know what hurt?  His 8 ppg, 0 threes, 0 steals, 2 assists totals.

 

If you want consistently high counting stats, drop Clarke. He won't be dropping consistently big lines until he gets more minutes, which may or may not happen. You are right about that

For those who value/need efficiency he's gold. In my roto league he's an extremely useful piece at the end of my lineup. 

 

 

Edited January 9, 2020 by Purple Hippo

[hi_its_kawhi 12]

3 hours ago, Purple Hippo said:

 

If you want consistently high counting stats, drop Clarke. He won't be dropping consistently big lines until he gets more minutes, which may or may not happen. You are right about that

For those who value/need efficiency he's gold. In my roto league he's an extremely useful piece at the end of my lineup. 

 

 

 

Yesss this guy gets it. Efficiency specialist

[MuscleChestbrook 587]

I see them stocks 👀

[Cpxaztec 34]

Wow 8 minutes at the half only and putting up numbers.

Edited January 11, 2020 by Cpxaztec

[Obliviate 159]

He's alive boys! His chemistry with Melton is pretty good too!

[flightboy10 11]

like everyone said... his efficiency is just out of this world..... 

[Monkeyking69 286]

man ... just that one unfortunate injury away.. one of the hottest teams right now too, so we can be thankful that they're close to that 8th seed so us owners could expect no more rest for any back to back sets 

[Obliviate 159]

1 minute ago, Monkeyking69 said:

man ... just that one unfortunate injury away.. one of the hottest teams right now too, so we can be thankful that they're close to that 8th seed so us owners could expect no more rest for any back to back sets 

But doesn't that mean that he'll continue to get partial minutes as opposed to if they were tanking then they'd "unleash" him later on. I hope I'm wrong though. 

[Monkeyking69 286]

27 minutes ago, Obliviate said:

But doesn't that mean that he'll continue to get partial minutes as opposed to if they were tanking then they'd "unleash" him later on. I hope I'm wrong though. 

 

yeah he likely wont be unleash with the way they're playing .. Jjj has kept his fouls under control too 

[indigorivers 388]

29 minutes ago, Obliviate said:

But doesn't that mean that he'll continue to get partial minutes as opposed to if they were tanking then they'd "unleash" him later on. I hope I'm wrong though. 

I own this guy and it's getting increasingly hard to see a pathway to minutes. Unless they go on a 9 game losing streak, but they're legitimately good and have a good shot at beating any sub 500 team. They'll be in the playoff hunt all season. Itll take an injury at this point for him to get unleashed. I'm still holding though. Love his upside and he doesnt hurt you anywhere 

[Extra_Rice 72]

He is basically OPJ but a PF/C.

 

Edit: what OPJ used to be

Edited January 11, 2020 by Extra_Rice

[molski 280]

3 hours ago, Extra_Rice said:

He is basically OPJ but a PF/C.

 

Edit: what OPJ used to be

 

minus the elite steals and above avg 3's, which is where most of his value lies

[RunCMC 2,535]

His bread and butter is his %’s mainly , along with Pts & Boards . Won’t hurt you in Blks and Assts , so a net neutral there. The only negatives to his game is 3ptm and Steals. But you can’t really ask more from the kid , his game is very well rounded, especially for a big . 

[brickcitymamba 318]

Picked him up again, because he is very roto-friendly and seemed to be increasing his production right when someone else picked him up after I'd dropped him... classic case of fantasy regrets. Wonder what's the pathway to increased minutes, if any. JJJJV frontcourt seems firmly established.