flippy 569 Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 so...70ish games played on this dude? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RipCity0 729 Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 well, i guess that's optimistic. more like 60ish Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MysticPeak 439 Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 Lots of mileage on this guy and I've always passed up on him for the obvious reasons. 60ish games IMO as well but who knows. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Auction>Snake 412 Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 LeVert will feast when this guy inevitably goes out. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kane 2,861 Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 2 hours ago, Auction>Snake said: LeVert will feast when this guy inevitably goes out. how about dinwiddie? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Auction>Snake 412 Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 15 hours ago, kane said: how about dinwiddie? Absolutely but LeVert is clearly the 2nd best player on this team this season. Can you imagine the tutelage LeVert will soak up from 2 superstars? When he hits his prime 28, Irving will be 31 & KD 34 likely under load management, or even more likely on other teams. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jake the snake 1,749 Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 6 hours ago, Auction>Snake said: Can you imagine the tutelage LeVert will soak up from 2 superstars? Is Kyrie the tutoring type? I'd imagine there are a few Celtic$ fans out there that might beg to differ. Is KD the tutoring type? I reckon Levert should have a good year. He was clearly their best player in the series against the 76ers. As for Kyrie: hard pass for me. don't trust his knees nor his temperament. Would rather guys like Beal, Butler, Jrue, kemba, Gobert, Drummond over Kyrie...possibly others too. Someone else's headache. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
80version 727 Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 I love his game -- the efficiency from PG pos is Curry-esque -- but cannot get over the fact you're likely burning a high 2nd round pick for a guy you assume will miss ~15 games and could be sitting a lot in H2H playoffs if BKN is not pressed for seeding, to ensure he's healthy for the PO IRL. I view Kyrie much like Embiid, PG & Kawhi in that you become very risk-averse through the early/middle rounds if drafting one of them. I'd definitely feel uneasy if ending up with Kyrie + any load mgmt poster boys as your #1 & #2. Missing games from both in the same H2H matchup is not a recipe for success. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
s-kayos 2,161 Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 12 hours ago, 80version said: but cannot get over the fact you're likely burning a high 2nd round pick for a guy you assume will miss ~15 games and could be sitting a lot in H2H playoffs if BKN is not pressed for seeding, to ensure he's healthy for the PO IRL. I mean the other options around that area are often Kawhi, Jimmy Butler, PG, sometimes LeBron or Embiid - I think they'll all miss 15 games/get load managed tbh, so Kyrie being in that mix is pretty much on brand. If he didn't have the missed games probability he'd be right up there under Dame for me. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
80version 727 Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 3 hours ago, s-kayos said: I mean the other options around that area are often Kawhi, Jimmy Butler, PG, sometimes LeBron or Embiid - I think they'll all miss 15 games/get load managed tbh, so Kyrie being in that mix is pretty much on brand. If he didn't have the missed games probability he'd be right up there under Dame for me. Fair point but it's doubtful Embiid is still available there and I am optimistic LBJ misses less games than the rest, save for Butler. All of these players are above KI (#14) on my draft board. I'm still debating whether I'd be more comfortable taking Jrue ahead of him, and can see justify taking Gobert/Drummond/Simmons before him if they pair well with the 1st pick. He's great when he plays but this is a guy who has only averaged 63.5 games a year in 8 seasons. I am looking for more games from a 2nd round pick. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
s-kayos 2,161 Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 11 minutes ago, 80version said: He's great when he plays but this is a guy who has only averaged 63.5 games a year in 8 seasons. I am looking for more games from a 2nd round pick. That's kinda what I'm getting at. Unless you're skipping over all the guys with 1st-round 9-cat upside to get a punt-build guy like Drummond, Gobert, Simmons, all of those guys in the last 1st-early 2nd are missing games. Using more recent past 3 years, Kyrie averages ~66 games per season. Jimmy Butler is ~66, and even if you take out the season where Kawhi only played 9 games he only comes out to ~68 games. PG is better but he's missing anywhere from the first 2 weeks to the first 6 weeks on a Load Mgmt Woke team, so he'll be around the same. Beyond that no one else has a 1st-round pedigree history, but I can definitely see people going for Drummond/Gobert or Jrue/Kemba if you want to go that route, but they've never been T20 much less T15 like Kyrie has been the past few years. I wouldn't fault anyone for not picking Kyrie though, in H2H those missed games can be killer. I think he'd be easier for me to draft in roto with a games played limit. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JStyles 599 Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 Can anyone explain why Rotoworld says a facial fracture in September means you should bump Kyrie down a few spots on your board? Makes no sense. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
s-kayos 2,161 Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 35 minutes ago, JStyles said: Can anyone explain why Rotoworld says a facial fracture in September means you should bump Kyrie down a few spots on your board? Makes no sense. Dunno, but if this makes Kyrie super cheap on draft day - say a pick in the 20s or something late like that - I'm probably in for that price. Do facial fractures have a high chance of recurring? Cuzz this is kinda sad for an already injury prone guy. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
StifleTower2 2,525 Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 26 minutes ago, s-kayos said: Dunno, but if this makes Kyrie super cheap on draft day - say a pick in the 20s or something late like that - I'm probably in for that price. Do facial fractures have a high chance of recurring? Cuzz this is kinda sad for an already injury prone guy. If facial fractures were reoccurring then no boxer would fight more than one fight. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
s-kayos 2,161 Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 3 minutes ago, StifleTower2 said: If facial fractures were reoccurring then no boxer would fight more than one fight. Yeesh, good point. I'm just surprised injuries are starting so early for this dude Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tremolay 0 Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 1 hour ago, JStyles said: Can anyone explain why Rotoworld says a facial fracture in September means you should bump Kyrie down a few spots on your board? Makes no sense. I agree. Dudes played with a broken face twice before. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
csklmf 349 Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 1 hour ago, s-kayos said: Yeesh, good point. I'm just surprised injuries are starting so early for this dude Sorry I owned him this year. This is the reason why. I owned Hayward in 2017 and dejounte Murray in 2018. I’m surprised kyrie still not out for season. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
driss lol 253 Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 (edited) bruh i have Irving and PG as my keepers, I might be in trouble this season Edited September 26, 2019 by driss lol 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fantasyscrub 365 Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 18 hours ago, csklmf said: Sorry I owned him this year. This is the reason why. I owned Hayward in 2017 and dejounte Murray in 2018. I’m surprised kyrie still not out for season. same lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gooseball 62 Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 If all stars align and he remains healthy, what are the numbers we can expect? With a positive view, I will say: 49% / 88% / 2.9 3s / 25 pts / 5 reb / 8ast / 1.5 stl / 0.5 blk / 2.5 TO That looks like a top 10 player to me. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MilesBridgesBetterThanZion 288 Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 His face looks fine my radars up, shut down candidate during fantasy playoffs is huge. They'll save him for next season/KD's return. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
alclayno 33 Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 9 hours ago, gooseball said: If all stars align and he remains healthy, what are the numbers we can expect? With a positive view, I will say: 49% / 88% / 2.9 3s / 25 pts / 5 reb / 8ast / 1.5 stl / 0.5 blk / 2.5 TO That looks like a top 10 player to me. I think 8 AST from a score-first PG is overly optimistic, to be honest. I know he averaged 6.9 last season with Boston, but prior to that, he only eclipsed the 6 AST mark once. The rest looks relatively attainable... I'd probably knock the FG% down a percentage or two though, along with the BLK and STL a tick or two each. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hipriest69 840 Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 (edited) 10 hours ago, alclayno said: I think 8 AST from a score-first PG is overly optimistic, to be honest. I know he averaged 6.9 last season with Boston, but prior to that, he only eclipsed the 6 AST mark once. The rest looks relatively attainable... I'd probably knock the FG% down a percentage or two though, along with the BLK and STL a tick or two each. Kyrie is so good but I have to consider that some of his stats could be slight outliers and I wonder if he'll replicate them? Mainly 1.5 steals, he was closer to 1.1/1.2 the last 3 years. 6.9 assists career high. Probably closer to 5.5-6. 0.5 blk career high, probably closer to 0.3-0.4 5 reb, also a career high Edited September 28, 2019 by hipriest69 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
StifleTower2 2,525 Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, hipriest69 said: Kyrie is so good but I have to consider that some of his stats could be slight outliers and I wonder if he'll replicate them? Mainly 1.5 steals, he was closer to 1.1/1.2 the last 3 years. 6.9 assists career high. Probably closer to 5.5-6. 0.5 blk career high, probably closer to 0.3-0.4 5 reb, also a career high He’s basically a less durable Lillard with the difference being that he shoots fewer long threes so his FG% is correspondingly higher. Ofc that also means fewer threes. I also believe the stocks this year were an outlier and if they fall even a little it will kick him out of the top 10 in per game. In totals he’s barely top 15 value and I don’t expect him to suddenly become durable. I’d be disappointed if I felt compelled to burn an 11th pick on him when you can get him in the 40s in auction. But that’s the nature of snake draft this year. Hint: do auction! Edited September 28, 2019 by StifleTower2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hipriest69 840 Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 4 hours ago, StifleTower2 said: He’s basically a less durable Lillard with the difference being that he shoots fewer long threes so his FG% is correspondingly higher. Ofc that also means fewer threes. I also believe the stocks this year were an outlier and if they fall even a little it will kick him out of the top 10 in per game. In totals he’s barely top 15 value and I don’t expect him to suddenly become durable. I’d be disappointed if I felt compelled to burn an 11th pick on him when you can get him in the 40s in auction. But that’s the nature of snake draft this year. Hint: do auction! haha yeah i did my best to try and let someone else pick him but at 14 i said what the hey... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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