Basketboss21 272 Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 50 minutes ago, IDatDude said: That is damage control trades scenarios, think long term...if they don’t want a headache down the line ahem....during playoffs, they’d opt and go this route, your not dealing with typical a situation here, he was out indefinitely/was considering surgery before these cortisol shots. Honestly who the hell knows how long the effects will hold up. We could very well be back at square one in couple wks. I prob wouldn’t trade him in this scenario, but I wouldn’t be mad at all if ppl started shipping him out. Personally would be looking at something like Kyrie + trade kicker piece for anybody in 3rd rd ish value. (which I high doubt anybody “competent” would fall for anyways lol) I agree. He was impressive in his return, but I still don't like his outlook ROS and wouldn't trade for him. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dfstout 2,153 Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 (edited) Ride of the valKyrie... all the way to the Finals win! scooped him up in my league after a team manager dropped him due to the surgery talk...Bingo! Edited January 13, 2020 by dfstout Quote Link to post Share on other sites
joshoowah 234 Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 (edited) 20 hours ago, ROTY said: Yeah you aint getting anything close to a 1st or 2nd rounder back. I feel like Shai, Morant, FVV type owners may bite but the Jrue, Kemba, Beal owners wont budge (in a non taco league that is) Yeah, I'm in a couple of dynasty leagues. Trading for a a pick and a young prospect is worth it for me. Someone will bite. He's been a headache for me for two years. Edited January 14, 2020 by joshoowah Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Agmaniacmike 84 Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 Maybe I'm just spoiled, but I would gladly trade a Kemba for Kyrie. Obviously there is an injury risk, but Kyrie is an upgrade, albeit slightly, in almost every category. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
simon 229 Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 will wait for about a month before i trade him, to build up his early round value. Maybe around all star break. Critical to move him asap as cortisone shot could wear off, but not too hasty as to not lose too much value. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TheBoondocks 440 Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 9 hours ago, simon said: will wait for about a month before i trade him, to build up his early round value. Maybe around all star break. Critical to move him asap as cortisone shot could wear off, but not too hasty as to not lose too much value. Funny how mods comment on posts saying "should I drop x for Y" in player threads, yet stuff like this is all over player pages. smh 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
simon 229 Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 1 minute ago, TheBoondocks said: Funny how mods comment on posts saying "should I drop x for Y" in player threads, yet stuff like this is all over player pages. smh Lol whats wrong with giving this kind of insight? Everyone here is in concensus that the logical move is to move him asap and get as much value in return. Just mentioned how i would address it. And i didnt even ask for inputs, just mentioned it plain and simple. Totally different from asking “should i drop player x for y”. if anything youre the one not contributing, just posting one of those complaint comments saying all threads here are ****, mods arent doing anything, but im still here reading every single thread Quote Link to post Share on other sites
samer42 173 Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 The pseudo science is real in this thread 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
xlosingmyedgex 361 Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 5 hours ago, samer42 said: The pseudo science is real in this thread Yes, but what shape is the Earth? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Simsanityy179 402 Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 (edited) I wouldn’t trade kyrie. Y’all tripping. hes top 10 ros at the worst. usage should be at an all time high considering he’s Not playing with the Celtics rising stars , or lebron. there 8 in the east best fantasy playoff sced it would take dame dolla or doncic to get him from me Edited January 15, 2020 by Simsanityy179 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
vnmslsrbms 281 Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 9 hours ago, simon said: Lol whats wrong with giving this kind of insight? Everyone here is in concensus that the logical move is to move him asap and get as much value in return. Just mentioned how i would address it. And i didnt even ask for inputs, just mentioned it plain and simple. Totally different from asking “should i drop player x for y”. if anything youre the one not contributing, just posting one of those complaint comments saying all threads here are ****, mods arent doing anything, but im still here reading every single thread agree. that's an outlook for Irving. why can't it be said? BTW, I would not trade Irving unless you find a counterparty who wants to value him fully. Otherwise, might as well hold him for the value. Unless you personally have no faith in his shoulder, then why draft him anyway since he's quite injury prone as shown this season and in the past. You know what you were getting. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
c0penhagen 30 Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 5 minutes ago, vnmslsrbms said: agree. that's an outlook for Irving. why can't it be said? BTW, I would not trade Irving unless you find a counterparty who wants to value him fully. Otherwise, might as well hold him for the value. Unless you personally have no faith in his shoulder, then why draft him anyway since he's quite injury prone as shown this season and in the past. You know what you were getting. There’s a difference between drafting a guy who’s injury prone and holding onto the same guy who was going to get season ending surgery a week ago before a little cortisone shot is now holding him together. Very reasonable to decide to trade him away. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
c0penhagen 30 Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 26 minutes ago, Simsanityy179 said: I wouldn’t trade kyrie. Y’all tripping. hes top 10 ros at the worst. usage should be at an all time high considering he’s Not playing with the Celtics rising stars , or lebron. there 8 in the east best fantasy playoff sced it would take dame dolla or doncic to get him from me he may not be playing with another superstar now but any tiny setback from now on could have the nets end his season for surgery again for next season with Durant. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
vnmslsrbms 281 Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 1 minute ago, c0penhagen said: There’s a difference between drafting a guy who’s injury prone and holding onto the same guy who was going to get season ending surgery a week ago before a little cortisone shot is now holding him together. Very reasonable to decide to trade him away. absolutely. I'm just saying don't trade him away for trash. If you can get a 30 ranked played i'd do it. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
simon 229 Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 4 minutes ago, vnmslsrbms said: absolutely. I'm just saying don't trade him away for trash. If you can get a 30 ranked played i'd do it. When you talked about valuing him fully, you meant top 30? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Simsanityy179 402 Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 (edited) 22 minutes ago, c0penhagen said: he may not be playing with another superstar now but any tiny setback from now on could have the nets end his season for surgery again for next season with Durant. I think there’s a 20 percent chance that happens , the other 80 % of me is saying kyrie will go all in proving to the world he can lead a team to playoff success. He’s not gonna quit on this bunch like how he did with the Celtics. Kyrie should be a full go during fantasy playoffs with The nets having one of the best schedules ( 4 game weeks during week 23/24 ) I Just gave up my cp3 + bledsoe for kyrie in 9cat and I believe that’s an absolute steal. Edited January 15, 2020 by Simsanityy179 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
vnmslsrbms 281 Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 1 hour ago, simon said: When you talked about valuing him fully, you meant top 30? Nah I mean discounting for injury risk. I think that's a fair trade. But some guys will low-ball Kyrie owners that's all. When he's healthy I think he is a top 5 at worse top 10 guy this season. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BMart519 291 Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 How do you guys value Kyrie in comparison to porzingis? I feel like the injury risk is so similar that the higher ceiling for Kyrie puts him ahead of kp for ROS... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jrmintz 139 Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 Just now, BMart519 said: How do you guys value Kyrie in comparison to porzingis? I feel like the injury risk is so similar that the higher ceiling for Kyrie puts him ahead of kp for ROS... Uh Kyrie is round 1, Porzingus is top 40? Come on now. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BMart519 291 Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 2 minutes ago, jrmintz said: Uh Kyrie is round 1, Porzingus is top 40? Come on now. Like I said, just gathering opinion. Obviously Kyrie has higher upside. Lots of people will to take SGA for Kyrie who is top 40 but no injury risk. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kane 2,886 Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 4 minutes ago, BMart519 said: Like I said, just gathering opinion. Obviously Kyrie has higher upside. Lots of people will to take SGA for Kyrie who is top 40 but no injury risk. Well,injury risk is hard to tell,just see KAT was ironman before this season🇹🇿 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RunCMC 2,533 Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 1 hour ago, Simsanityy179 said: I think there’s a 20 percent chance that happens , the other 80 % of me is saying kyrie will go all in proving to the world he can lead a team to playoff success. He’s not gonna quit on this bunch like how he did with the Celtics. Kyrie should be a full go during fantasy playoffs with The nets having one of the best schedules ( 4 game weeks during week 23/24 ) I Just gave up my cp3 + bledsoe for kyrie in 9cat and I believe that’s an absolute steal. You forget the ugly 2 game week , during first week of fantasy playoffs . Week 22 . So unless you have a bye , it's not that gravy . You low-key gave up alot for Kyrie , but if you believe in him , and think he will go Ham ROS , by all means ... not a bad trade. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Simsanityy179 402 Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 (edited) 23 minutes ago, RunCMC said: You forget the ugly 2 game week , during first week of fantasy playoffs . Week 22 . So unless you have a bye , it's not that gravy . You low-key gave up alot for Kyrie , but if you believe in him , and think he will go Ham ROS , by all means ... not a bad trade. Lmao I forgot about week 22 , 11 games ahead in 1st atm 🤷♂️ valid point though Edited January 15, 2020 by Simsanityy179 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jclee4 532 Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 59 minutes ago, kane said: Well,injury risk is hard to tell,just see KAT was ironman before this season🇹🇿 Kyrie is hurt every single year. It's not hard to tell with him. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RunCMC 2,533 Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 53 minutes ago, jclee4 said: Kyrie is hurt every single year. It's not hard to tell with him. God damn , the kid's a walking health clinic . But they could've done without listing the concussion . I would consider that very minor and pretty common in sports . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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