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55 minutes ago, DezedandConfused said:

Huh why would u draft Drummond after jokic? Try to trade drummond for ayton/turner/vuc

The names you mentioned were my initial 2nd picks and got drafted before my turn. Drummond was still available at 23rd pick which I thought was a bit of a bargain so I grabbed it.

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The turn is great for punting because there's not much pressure as far as "will he fall?". Let's say you love Booker or Trae but your second round pick is at 16 and you think it's kind of a stretch to

I actually like picking late.  It's the ideal punt spot, because ideally you've flipped the draft board in your favor.  Instead of having the 12th and 13th best players, you now have two players in th

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It’s not that dumb to pair Jokic and Drummond.  Great start in rebounds, assists, stocks right away.  You can make up the FT later bc you already have two centers and only one of them is poor in FT.  Or you can punt FT.  You’re probably close to punting points as well.  It’s not the best start but if you start off with the disadvantage of being in the middle and begin with two really solid centers it could be worse.  Both are durable too.  

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Am I the only idiot who bet it all on a lotto ticket, and paired Westbrook and Harden? Picked Booker 3rd round too, since he seemed like BPA I couldn't pass up, and then started being super cautious with taking on any more bad FT shooters and reached for Markkanen/Love

So now I'm punting fg, to and blocks, and my ft pct might not even be a weekly lock with Harden/Booker depending on how much damage wb does. And betting the house on the rockets experiment working out. And also banking on Love not sitting 60 games and praying for a midseason trade to a playoff team (willing to absorb his salary)

Not exactly my plan going into the draft but f--- it, at least the season will be interesting

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2 hours ago, blazeh said:

Am I the only idiot who bet it all on a lotto ticket, and paired Westbrook and Harden? Picked Booker 3rd round too, since he seemed like BPA I couldn't pass up, and then started being super cautious with taking on any more bad FT shooters and reached for Markkanen/Love

So now I'm punting fg, to and blocks, and my ft pct might not even be a weekly lock with Harden/Booker depending on how much damage wb does. And betting the house on the rockets experiment working out. And also banking on Love not sitting 60 games and praying for a midseason trade to a playoff team (willing to absorb his salary)

Not exactly my plan going into the draft but f--- it, at least the season will be interesting

No.  I punted FG/To/Blocks in a H2H auction. I think if you’re getting Harden, Westbrook, Booker then your counting stats are so far off the charts that even if you’re teams not working out you can just make a trade.  But I wouldn’t do it in roto obviously. 

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14 Team 9 cat H2H, thinking im punt FG TO, points a little lacking imo, what do yall think im not entirely sure

9th Pick - Dame 

20th Pick - PG 

37th Pick - Draymond

Conley 

Myles Turner 

J Rich 

Brook Lopez

Taurean Prince 

Dejounte Murray 

Tomas Satoransky

Jerami Grant 

PJ Washington

OG Anunoby

 

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Punted assists and tried to be at least average in the rest of the categories.

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Found that I was relatively weak in scoring afterwards, and when someone in my league inexplicably dropped Fournier I immediately put in a waiver for him dropping Brown.

Pretty satisfied with my team so far, only slight regret was not picking TJ Warren over Dedmon in the 6/7 turn.

Elite in FG%, Blocks, Rebounds, TOs, Good in STL, Points. Average in 3s and FT%.

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On 10/21/2019 at 2:06 PM, snerpy said:

If you went Drummond/Gobert you are effectively punting FT%, PTS, ASSISTS, 3's. If you're going down this route you really have a small margin of error as you need to improve on 2 of your 4 glaring weaknesses. I would just settle for hard punting PTS and FT's because it's extremely hard to make up for points outside of the top 25 picks. Thats where all your points will be coming from. Instead you will be looking for players that do not score a whole bunch but will help you in other cats. Lord Covington is your savior so please do not let him get sniped.

If you can somehow get Westbrook or Simmons with 3rd pick, you can begin to focus on assists. In your middle rounds, I would target your 3 point shooter and steals. You need 3 and D players to make this work. Then finish off with cheap blocks with Whitside, McGee, Noel etc.


I'm reassessing my team and draft strategy now and agree with you. Drum/Gobert is excellent for FG, REB, BLK. Terrible for 3PT, FT. I am left to fight for 2 or 3 of PTS, AST, STL, TO. PTS is hard to make up as you alluded to (only the highest PER players usually in the Top 25 will score the most points). AST & STL specialists can be found but if you try to win AST you usually lose TO so it's a split. So realistically speaking after Drum/Gobert I gotta go for AST & STL specialists, which I tried to with the CP3, Bledsoe, Otto Porter, Ball, Payton Guard picks. The problem is whether they will provide me with enough AST to win 80% of the weeks, or if I should just try to trade them away for even better STL specialists and try to win TO instead.

Westbrook/Simmons were both gone before my third pick. Instead of going for 3PT I went for AST & STL. 3PT specialists usually score points but don't provide other stats. Am I wrong to believe that?

 

On 10/21/2019 at 2:58 PM, PUNTSQUAD said:

Did a 14 team H2H categories snake redraft with pick 9 yesterday and punted pts/3/ft%.  The result:

 

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It's a rather easy punt given the order of ADPs this year. I reached for 3 of my first 4 picks but all 3 of those reaches (Drummond, Capella, MitchRob) are absolutely crucial to my punt build so they weren't actual reaches in reality

Gotta say tho that if I didn't land Draymond at 37 then I might be singing a different tune right now. I was sitting on pins and needles waiting for my turn because I definitely had to have AST at that point and if not Draymond then I probably would've had to reach for Lowry, and I don't like drafting Lowry

 

How were you able to provide that analytic/evaluator tool? Is that free or do you have to pay for it on bballmonster???

 

23 hours ago, BokehBall said:

 

I initially really wanted to go Drum/Gob with the 9th pick but after doing a couple of mock drafts I ran into the same problem you were facing. I ended up going Drummond -> Simmons -> Draymond and filled my team from there. I should be dominant in fg%,rebounds, steals, blocks and above average in assists. However, I'm dead last in pts, 3s, and ft% and because I have Simmons and Draymond, my TOs are really high too so now I'm stuck evaluating matchups week to week to see who i need to sit so I can either win assists or TO. There is very little room for error in this strategy. I probably didn't build as efficiently as I could have and sort of regret going this route because this punt strategy I think is hard to pull off, at least for me. 

You might have to trade down but try trading Gobert for some assists like Simmons but just make sure watch your TOs. Probably better than getting 3-6'ed each week. 

 

I like your build, but if you don't win the AST category you might lose the TO category to a more efficient Assist-heavy team. Then what happens?

 


 

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42 minutes ago, mtx said:


I'm reassessing my team and draft strategy now and agree with you. Drum/Gobert is excellent for FG, REB, BLK. Terrible for 3PT, FT. I am left to fight for 2 or 3 of PTS, AST, STL, TO. PTS is hard to make up as you alluded to (only the highest PER players usually in the Top 25 will score the most points). AST & STL specialists can be found but if you try to win AST you usually lose TO so it's a split. So realistically speaking after Drum/Gobert I gotta go for AST & STL specialists, which I tried to with the CP3, Bledsoe, Otto Porter, Ball, Payton Guard picks. The problem is whether they will provide me with enough AST to win 80% of the weeks, or if I should just try to trade them away for even better STL specialists and try to win TO instead.

Westbrook/Simmons were both gone before my third pick. Instead of going for 3PT I went for AST & STL. 3PT specialists usually score points but don't provide other stats. Am I wrong to believe that?

 

 

How were you able to provide that analytic/evaluator tool? Is that free or do you have to pay for it on bballmonster???

 

 

I like your build, but if you don't win the AST category you might lose the TO category to a more efficient Assist-heavy team. Then what happens?

 


 

 

CP3, Ball, Bledsoe, and Payton will help you win most weeks in fantasy. I’m not sold on payton yet as he has DSJ there fighting for minutes and the whole knicks lineup is a mess. If CP3 rests or goes down you will not be able to make up the assists in the waiver.

 

There aren’t too many steals “specialists” but you should be able to find sneaky wing players like a Danny Green or Jonathan Issac who will not only provide you with steals buy 3’s and blocks as well. Since you have CP3, there is no point in punting assists but I would focus more on improving %’s. Guards that shoot well include Brogdon and Tomas S. Bigs like Brook Lopez, Horford, Marc Gasol, and Serge Ibaka will be amazing for your team (in that order) and I would look into acquiring them. 

 

I originally posted about acquiring strong wings before most of them are not ball dominant which means you would effectively win TO’s as well.

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25 minutes ago, snerpy said:

 

CP3, Ball, Bledsoe, and Payton will help you win most weeks in fantasy. I’m not sold on payton yet as he has DSJ there fighting for minutes and the whole knicks lineup is a mess. If CP3 rests or goes down you will not be able to make up the assists in the waiver.

 

There aren’t too many steals “specialists” but you should be able to find sneaky wing players like a Danny Green or Jonathan Issac who will not only provide you with steals buy 3’s and blocks as well. Since you have CP3, there is no point in punting assists but I would focus more on improving %’s. Guards that shoot well include Brogdon and Tomas S. Bigs like Brook Lopez, Horford, Marc Gasol, and Serge Ibaka will be amazing for your team (in that order) and I would look into acquiring them. 

 

I originally posted about acquiring strong wings before most of them are not ball dominant which means you would effectively win TO’s as well.

I want to propose cp3/ball to a pg-needy team for his covington/bagley or covington/Middleton but then I'd really be giving up the assists and going for the threes. That's a loss of 10 assists for me for a gain of 2 threes. 

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50 minutes ago, mtx said:

I want to propose cp3/ball to a pg-needy team for his covington/bagley or covington/Middleton but then I'd really be giving up the assists and going for the threes. That's a loss of 10 assists for me for a gain of 2 threes. 

Covington/Middleton would the the two to grab if you were making that trade. Just make sure you have at least 2 PG eligible players so you're not sitting players during the week. 

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18 Team H2H and I wanted to punt assist but ended up being not bad with it. I think my team is probably good at pts 3pts stls. average on everything and able to catch up on blocks with my guards being able to block shots. As the season progresses, I will still go on punt assist and trade maybe LeVert for a big.

Beal

Vucevic

Aldridge

Covington

Levert

White

Zach Collins

Tucker

Clarkson

Bacon

Thybulle

NAW

 

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Do I need to be a paid member to use the BM Team Analysis tool for last year's stats?? It's only working for 2019-2020 current stats for me. Here is how I am looking after my trades and some FA pickups:

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Looking like a pretty ugly Punt Strategy for me even though I won the first week's matchup (cause I played the WW well and had more GP). Also Gobert's s---y AF so far..... maybe it's time I send Otto Porter away for Brook Lopez or something. I need 3s and Blocks!!!!

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Doing well with both of my teams, but definitely feel that my 8-team roster is the one I'll need to fine tune the most.

Thoughts on how to improve this punt Pts/3's roster? Team is in my signature


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What do you guys think about the following markets for today’s games:

Isaac over 13.5 points (worries Gordon might play)

Fultz over 12.5 points (same as above) 

Wizards/Lakers over 236.5 points 

McCollum over 20.5 points 

Vanvleet over 19.5 points 

Clarkson over 13.5 points 

Conley under 16.5 points 

Jrue Holiday over 20.5 points 

Doncic over 30.5 points 

Doncic over 49.5 PRA 

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For the first time since i play Fantasy Basketball (2014), i tried a punt strategy in one of my league (14 teams 9-cat H2H).

And for the first time i didn't make the playoffs with one of my team.

Here was my draft :

Budget $200
1. (1) Giannis Antetokounmpo (Mil - PF,C) $67
2. (8) Andre Drummond (LAL - C) $30
3. (25) DeMar DeRozan (SA - SG,SF,PF) $18
4. (32) Ben Simmons (Phi - PG) $31
5. (59) Jusuf Nurkic (Por - C) $15
6. (69) Lonzo Ball (NO - PG,SG) $13
7. (132) Markelle Fultz (Orl - PG,SG) $7
8. (151) PJ Washington (Cha - SF,PF,C) $3
9. (156) Darius Bazley (OKC - SF,PF) $2
10. (159) Mason Plumlee (Det - PF,C) $1
11. (162) Terrence Ross (Orl - SG,SF) $2
12. (166) Elfrid Payton (NY - PG) $2
13. (168) Aron Baynes (Tor - C)

$1

 

 

Notable FA picked up : Keldon Johnson, Jae'Sean Tate, Kevin Porter Jr, Hammadou Diallo, Tomas Satoransky, Chuma Okeke...

I intended punting FT% and TO, i finished punting 3pts as well, and i was very weak in points.

Also i lost %FG and BLKS 4 times, and Steals 6 times.

I finished 9th, despite having a chance last week, but with Giannis injured, Simmons struggling, and several other players out, i lost 2-7 to the 8th team.

 

In brief, punting is not for me, and i will not retry this in the future...

(to comfort myself, i am 1st in my roto league, and 1st in my 9 keepers h2h league...)

 

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Looks like it would be a pretty good team in a points league. Punting is one reason I quit playing categories. Try a points league next time.  I'll never go back.

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3 hours ago, GrandGourou said:

For the first time since i play Fantasy Basketball (2014), i tried a punt strategy in one of my league (14 teams 9-cat H2H).

And for the first time i didn't make the playoffs with one of my team.

Here was my draft :

Budget $200
1. (1) Giannis Antetokounmpo (Mil - PF,C) $67
2. (8) Andre Drummond (LAL - C) $30
3. (25) DeMar DeRozan (SA - SG,SF,PF) $18
4. (32) Ben Simmons (Phi - PG) $31
5. (59) Jusuf Nurkic (Por - C) $15
6. (69) Lonzo Ball (NO - PG,SG) $13
7. (132) Markelle Fultz (Orl - PG,SG) $7
8. (151) PJ Washington (Cha - SF,PF,C) $3
9. (156) Darius Bazley (OKC - SF,PF) $2
10. (159) Mason Plumlee (Det - PF,C) $1
11. (162) Terrence Ross (Orl - SG,SF) $2
12. (166) Elfrid Payton (NY - PG) $2
13. (168) Aron Baynes (Tor - C)

$1

 

 

Notable FA picked up : Keldon Johnson, Jae'Sean Tate, Kevin Porter Jr, Hammadou Diallo, Tomas Satoransky, Chuma Okeke...

I intended punting FT% and TO, i finished punting 3pts as well, and i was very weak in points.

Also i lost %FG and BLKS 4 times, and Steals 6 times.

I finished 9th, despite having a chance last week, but with Giannis injured, Simmons struggling, and several other players out, i lost 2-7 to the 8th team.

 

In brief, punting is not for me, and i will not retry this in the future...

(to comfort myself, i am 1st in my roto league, and 1st in my 9 keepers h2h league...)

 

Punting not for me too... too difficult for me

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this season i punted assists exclusively (although i lost most of my reb matchups but not by a wide margin so i dont consider that as a punt cat seeing im currently winning the reb cat in my playoff matchup) and focused on fg% (which i never did, always punted that cat) and points with low turnovers...and all of that after week 4 when i started trading (traded 11/13 guys i initally drafted...went from dead last in fg%, pts and turnovers to n1 after week 14 in fg%, tp%, third in ft%, second in pts and second to last in turnovers...

i think im definitely basing all of my future teams with this strategy, never been more nonchalant with my teams although im currently losing my tp% cat in the first week of playoffs (trent going 1/8, lavine not shooting very well, poku 2/7, mpj 1/12 last night too) 

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