brosephd 1,352 Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 blake bortles once put up 4.4k yards 35 tds/18 int. minshew is infinitely better. albeit different system, situation, coach etc. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cashvillesent 410 Posted September 22, 2020 Author Share Posted September 22, 2020 2 hours ago, Motown_Magic said: Nice start to the year for the young goat. 75% completion%, 6 TD to 2 picks so far, nice matchup against MIA upcoming followed by Cincy next week. Highly debating pulling the plug on Wentz for this guy MIA secondaries are talented. I wouldnt call this a good match up. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sizzlebshu 99 Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 8 minutes ago, cashvillesent said: MIA secondaries are talented. I wouldnt call this a good match up. See this is what worries me. Their best CB (Jones) is likely out but they still have their 1st round rookie and Xavien Howard. Yes diggs put them in a blender but its stefon diggs. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sizzlebshu 99 Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 I think the correct comp for Minshew is Kirk Cousins under Jay Gruden. The game is very similar. Neither flashes immense arm talent, but both can make all the throws and are very savvy about maximizing the talents they do have. With the right supporting cast they are competent, but will never be super bowl contenders. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Corleone 1,976 Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 8 minutes ago, cashvillesent said: MIA secondaries are talented. I wouldnt call this a good match up. Dolphins head coach Brian Flores said CB Byron Jones (groin) "would have to heal pretty quickly" to play Thursday against the Jaguars. Jones, after leaving Sunday's game with a groin injury, looks like a long shot to play in against Jacksonville in a shortened week. His absence would make a good matchup even better for Gardner Minshew, who has an unsustainable 9.2 percent touchdown rate through two weeks. Minshew will be a rock-solid QB2 with plenty of upside against Miami's woeful secondary. And through 2 games, Miami is 31st against opposing QB's in fantasy:https://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2020/fantasy-points-against-QB.htm 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PlayTheWaivers 1,889 Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 23 minutes ago, cashvillesent said: MIA secondaries are talented. I wouldnt call this a good match up. The over under on this game isn't that high, which is a bit surprising, but maybe Vegas knows that something is up considering it's TNF and these two teams could be a question mark of offensive firepower on Thursday. I can see a low-scoring running game with kicks galore lol. Last Thursday was definitely offensive fireworks however. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stay_woke 1,294 Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 2 minutes ago, PlayTheWaivers said: The over under on this game isn't that high, which is a bit surprising, but maybe Vegas knows that something is up considering it's TNF and these two teams could be a question mark of offensive firepower on Thursday. I can see a low-scoring running game with kicks galore lol. Last Thursday was definitely offensive fireworks however. Vegas knows how to set the over under to make money no matter what the result is. I think it's important to not read too much into Vegas totals Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TonyRomo 82 Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 Vegas was wrong last TNF, which means they'll be right this week. AVOID! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sizzlebshu 99 Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 26 minutes ago, Corleone said: Dolphins head coach Brian Flores said CB Byron Jones (groin) "would have to heal pretty quickly" to play Thursday against the Jaguars. Jones, after leaving Sunday's game with a groin injury, looks like a long shot to play in against Jacksonville in a shortened week. His absence would make a good matchup even better for Gardner Minshew, who has an unsustainable 9.2 percent touchdown rate through two weeks. Minshew will be a rock-solid QB2 with plenty of upside against Miami's woeful secondary. And through 2 games, Miami is 31st against opposing QB's in fantasy:https://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2020/fantasy-points-against-QB.htm Yeah but thats not necessarily due to QB passing. They got Newton and White Newton (aka Allen) two weeks in a row Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sizzlebshu 99 Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 14 minutes ago, PlayTheWaivers said: The over under on this game isn't that high, which is a bit surprising, but maybe Vegas knows that something is up considering it's TNF and these two teams could be a question mark of offensive firepower on Thursday. I can see a low-scoring running game with kicks galore lol. Last Thursday was definitely offensive fireworks however. Initial was 44 and the public bet it up to 47 no? Vegas set the line low because both teams are bad and play at slower than average pace I believe (Jags do for sure, but Dolphins may be faster). 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Corleone 1,976 Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 9 minutes ago, Sizzlebshu said: Yeah but thats not necessarily due to QB passing. They got Newton and White Newton (aka Allen) two weeks in a row Josh Allen had the best passing game of his career on Sunday. It was the first 400-yard passing game of his career (beating his previous high, from Week 1, by 105 yards). It was also the first 4-TD pass game of his career. It was also his top game by passer rating. He also only rushed for 18 yards and 0 TD's. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sizzlebshu 99 Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 35 minutes ago, Corleone said: Josh Allen had the best passing game of his career on Sunday. It was the first 400-yard passing game of his career (beating his previous high, from Week 1, by 105 yards). It was also the first 4-TD pass game of his career. It was also his top game by passer rating. He also only rushed for 18 yards and 0 TD's. Right but what I'm saying is Cam was 15 for 19 for 155 with no passing TDs but 75 with 2 Rush TDs. That's why I don't think FP against QB is a good metric in context. 8.1 YPA is still strong but they faced two QBs who can extend plays and score extra points thru rushing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Corleone 1,976 Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Sizzlebshu said: Right but what I'm saying is Cam was 15 for 19 for 155 with no passing TDs but 75 with 2 Rush TDs. That's why I don't think FP against QB is a good metric in context. 8.1 YPA is still strong but they faced two QBs who can extend plays and score extra points thru rushing. If you think Miami is good against the pass and don't want to start Minshew for that reason, that's your right. BTW, Minshew ran for the 5th-most yards of any QB in 2019 (in 14 games). Edited September 22, 2020 by Corleone 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TwoCan Sam 293 Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 I don’t see what’s to dislike here. He’s a QB with a constant chip on his shoulder for varying reasons. He’s got weapons and an OC who will maximize his skill set and theirs. Unless you have one of the top 8 guys I’d be rolling with Minshew 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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Sizzlebshu 99 Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 27 minutes ago, Corleone said: If you think Miami is good against the pass and don't want to start Minshew for that reason, that's your right. BTW, Minshew ran for the 5th-most yards of any QB in 2019 (in 14 games). Again, all I am saying is that (1) QB fantasy points =/= pass defense especially when the matches occurred in a two game stretch against two of the leagues best running QBs; and (2) that Miami's strength on defense appears to be defending the pass given its talent. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Br0kenB 1,951 Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 Easy QB1 this week. The Dolphins secondary is terrible without Jones. Howard can't cover man to man and the other guy, #23, can't cover for ****. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CanaBuc 178 Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 Where would you rank him vs QB this week with tough matchups. For instance bench Watson against Pittsburgh for him? Ryan against the bears? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jkendrick2 114 Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 Probably dropping Brees for Minshew if I can get him under 5% FAAB. He has been very consistent since last year and very underated. Hopefully I can get him in my lineup.... otherwise I'm going to throw in Tannehill. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pierceNKC 496 Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 2 hours ago, CanaBuc said: Where would you rank him vs QB this week with tough matchups. For instance bench Watson against Pittsburgh for him? Ryan against the bears? If I’m able to get minshew this week, I’m starting him over Watson no question. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mannymachado 346 Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 Start over wilson? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tghetty 355 Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 10 minutes ago, mannymachado said: Start over wilson? I mean, love Minshew against Miami. But how do you disrespect the QB 1 like that? Dallas Seattle is going to be a shootout. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rasto21585 264 Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 Am I crazy for considering starting Minshew over Stafford this week? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tghetty 355 Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 4 minutes ago, rasto21585 said: Am I crazy for considering starting Minshew over Stafford this week? I think your crazy the other way around 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pastorofmuppets2 10,718 Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 (edited) 16 hours ago, PlayTheWaivers said: The over under on this game isn't that high, which is a bit surprising, but maybe Vegas knows that something is up considering it's TNF and these two teams could be a question mark of offensive firepower on Thursday. I can see a low-scoring running game with kicks galore lol. Last Thursday was definitely offensive fireworks however. yeah, that opening # was surprising ... but i see two offenses that should be able to move the foosball, matriculating down the field with aplomb. im'ma bite the over in Jax games until the Jags prove to be not up to the task of giving & receiving - if it ain't broke ... Edited September 23, 2020 by pastorofmuppets2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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