fluffy69 51 Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 Positive results in a miserable match up really. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
thefranchise3 99 Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 (edited) 17 minutes ago, MKO3090 said: . Look. I can appreciate a working class RB as well as anyone else. It's why I have him. Is he explosive? f--- no. Is he quick? Are you kidding me. Can he break tackles? Folds like the cheap suit your mom bought you for the middle school dance. But he'll carry on, putting a good day work at the line. Sunrise to sundown, day in to day out, putting his time in on the line. Here in Club Monty, we get what he is. A JAG who find himself in the enviable position of workhorse in the most unimpressive 4-1 offense you've ever seen. And we love him for it. From a straight physical talent/athleticism standpoint, he is a JAG, but contrary to public beliefs he is one of the best at breaking tackles and certainly does not fold like a cheap suit. Just look at his attempts per broken tackle from the past 2 years. First image is 2019 and 2nd is 2020. Edited October 9, 2020 by thefranchise3 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FitzMagic 4,260 Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 From a fantasy standpoint he’s a JAG. He’s JAGalicious only because he gets very little help from his QB or offensive line. He passes the eye test for me though as a solid real life RB. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tommy Lee Jones 577 Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 He’s damn good at breaking tackles, and he’ll need to utilize that skill even moreso going forward, as James Daniels could be out for the season. James is arguably the best offensive lineman on the Bears - it’s between him and Whitehair. The other guard that they brought in from Seattle is replacement-level. The guy who replaced Daniels last night might prove to be atrocious - we’ll see. The tackles are average. Ryan Pace gave Robert Quinn a huge deal (did anyone hear his name mentioned last night?) and drafted TE Cole Kmet in the second round (no 1st round pick due to the Mack trade). OL is not much of a priority. It’s one of the most obvious signs that a GM is in over his head. Bottom line - Montgomery will suck hard from time to time, and it won’t necessarily be his fault. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gsiegel 43 Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 He is what he is. I drafted him as depth for one thing: usage. I'd generally much rather use Monty as my flex or bye-week fill in that 90% of the RB's drafted after him or RBBC dudes or typical WW fodder. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fabrini 131 Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 On 10/9/2020 at 1:25 AM, sleepysock said: TB was giving up 2.7 YPC before tonight. Monty have you 2.9. If you thought he would give you a big game tonight, big oof. Be happy that Foles has targeted him significantly more than Trubisky in a short sample so far. A few of those into-triple-coverage throws Mitch used to make every game seem to be getting dumped down to Monty instead. Take the extra receptions. A few will break big. Bears don't face another run D this stout the rest of the year. If he gets a few more chances near the goal line, his value skyrockets. Standard here,I'll gladly take the 11.9 he got me as my #2 rb 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LongBalls 1,193 Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 On 10/9/2020 at 8:50 AM, FitzMagic said: From a fantasy standpoint he’s a JAG. He’s JAGalicious only because he gets very little help from his QB or offensive line. He passes the eye test for me though as a solid real life RB. He's more of a JAG between the tackles, but he seems to have some legit talent catching the ball. Some of the grabs he's made since Cohen went down are high-end plays. He'd never really had any receiving work previously so didn't know he had such good hands. If he continues to get 5-10 targets a game he'll be a firm RB2 with upside. The schedule also lightens up moving forward. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Eaglesflyhigh11 450 Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 (edited) 16 minutes ago, LongBalls said: He's more of a JAG between the tackles I believe that's a product of the O Line. Imo I think he's got his vision but it's rough when you got no where to run through or to If foles could get the defense to respect his arm more Montgomery would eat 9/10 even with that line. Stacked boxes aren't good for any backs Edited October 10, 2020 by Eaglesflyhigh11 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sleepysock 811 Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 Bears O-line being a** like this is an indictment on the GM. You have had a project QB and two young RBs (Howard and Monty) to build your O around the last 4 years and not given them the most important thing they need -- it's not weapons in the passing game, it's not a brilliant offensive scheme, it's simply a deep and reliable O-line. Montgomery will fight for extra yards and push forward, but without the benefit of accelerating through a hole first those abilities are mitigated. I was admittedly very high on him coming into his rookie year, but at that point I believed more in Nagy and was certain the Bears would put together a good line by 2020. Whooooooops. Can't wait to see them grab a WR, QB and edge rusher in the first half of the draft next year! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bhawks489 3,678 Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 54 minutes ago, sleepysock said: Bears O-line being a** like this is an indictment on the GM. You have had a project QB and two young RBs (Howard and Monty) to build your O around the last 4 years and not given them the most important thing they need -- it's not weapons in the passing game, it's not a brilliant offensive scheme, it's simply a deep and reliable O-line. Montgomery will fight for extra yards and push forward, but without the benefit of accelerating through a hole first those abilities are mitigated. I was admittedly very high on him coming into his rookie year, but at that point I believed more in Nagy and was certain the Bears would put together a good line by 2020. Whooooooops. Can't wait to see them grab a WR, QB and edge rusher in the first half of the draft next year! They are trading up in the first to take the wrong QB and also trading their 3rd to move up in the 2nd round to grab another wr. pace loves trading up 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sleepysock 811 Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 46 minutes ago, bhawks489 said: They are trading up in the first to take the wrong QB and also trading their 3rd to move up in the 2nd round to grab another wr. pace loves trading up Let the Jamie Newman experiment begin! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Benjamin1984 563 Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 I do pay some attention to ESPN fantasy personally. I consume them all. Berry and Yates hate David Montgomery. They were making the case that he isn't startable and barely rosterable last week. Just got an update from ESPN fantasy that due to a plush schedule and heavy workload David Montgomery is a potential RB1 going forward. Way to go guys. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Magoo 1,517 Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 18 minutes ago, Benjamin1984 said: I do pay some attention to ESPN fantasy personally. I consume them all. Berry and Yates hate David Montgomery. They were making the case that he isn't startable and barely rosterable last week. Just got an update from ESPN fantasy that due to a plush schedule and heavy workload David Montgomery is a potential RB1 going forward. Way to go guys. I mean how many analysts go out on a limb and present non-groupthink opinions? Or are held accountable for their wrong calls Right now groupthink says he's a marginal, slow-footed talent who is a low-end RB2 floor play at best. That may be the case but the line has sucked, Nagy's play calling sucks and he's had some of the worst QB play since he came into the league. Personally I have a gut feeling he won't need to dance as much with clearer lanes. And with him assuming Cohen's pass catching role and 5-6 catches a game I could absolutely see a path to low end RB1 value. And I'm not really influenced by the default "now that the schedule is good" narrative. It's still only been 5 weeks into the season. Still arguably too small a sample size to make blanket statements about defenses. Especially when teams get starters back from injuries etc. I remember last year's pre-season I got mocked because I said Mike Davis is no slouch and could present a challenge to Monty's lead back role. Everyone said Mike Davis is an okay RB but a journeyman at best. That same journeyman is now returning RB1 value in no small part due to large reception volume. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Benjamin1984 563 Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 7 minutes ago, Magoo said: I mean how many analysts go out on a limb and present non-groupthink opinions? Or are held accountable for their wrong calls Right now groupthink says he's a marginal, slow-footed talent who is a low-end RB2 floor play at best. That may be the case but the line has sucked, Nagy's play calling sucks and he's had some of the worst QB play since he came into the league. Personally I have a gut feeling he won't need to dance as much with clearer lanes. And with him assuming Cohen's pass catching role and 5-6 catches a game I could absolutely see a path to low end RB1 value. And I'm not really influenced by the default "now that the schedule is good" narrative. It's still only been 5 weeks into the season. Still arguably too small a sample size to make blanket statements about defenses. Especially when teams get starters back from injuries etc. I remember last year's pre-season I got mocked because I said Mike Davis is no slouch and could present a challenge to Monty's lead back role. Everyone said Mike Davis is an okay RB but a journeyman at best. That same journeyman is now returning RB1 value in no small part due to large reception volume. I hear ya on on these points...I was just chuckling to myself last week when they questioning whether he was rosterable. They know full well he's rosterable. They both rank him as a RB2 nearly every week. I think they messed up the analysis somewhere here. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
thefranchise3 99 Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 2 hours ago, Benjamin1984 said: I do pay some attention to ESPN fantasy personally. I consume them all. Berry and Yates hate David Montgomery. They were making the case that he isn't startable and barely rosterable last week. Just got an update from ESPN fantasy that due to a plush schedule and heavy workload David Montgomery is a potential RB1 going forward. Way to go guys. I'm as bullish on Montgomery as they come, but even I can't go to RB1 potential because of Nagy and the OL. Also I believe Mike Clay is the one that writes the fantasy blurbs each week. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Benjamin1984 563 Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 47 minutes ago, thefranchise3 said: I'm as bullish on Montgomery as they come, but even I can't go to RB1 potential because of Nagy and the OL. Also I believe Mike Clay is the one that writes the fantasy blurbs each week. Berry was saying that he bases his rankings on Mike Clay's projections each week nowadays. That leads me to believe they work closer in tandem then they once did. Either that or he's pretty much given up on writing them himself and is just copying Mike Clay's numbers. Just something I noticed...not a huge deal. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fabrini 131 Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 20 hours ago, Benjamin1984 said: I do pay some attention to ESPN fantasy personally. I consume them all. Berry and Yates hate David Montgomery. They were making the case that he isn't startable and barely rosterable last week. Just got an update from ESPN fantasy that due to a plush schedule and heavy workload David Montgomery is a potential RB1 going forward. Way to go guys. Thanks to Dalvin probably sitting this week DM is going to be pushed into my #1 rb slot. Based on these numbers,hopefully he can perform like one. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ZappB 656 Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 Even if the Bears sign Bell, I'm assuming Bell can't contribute for week 6. Right now, FantasyPros consensus rankings for 0.5 PPR has him as RB13. True, Kamara and Jacobs aren't playing, and maybe a few other big names I can't think of off the top of my head. But for week 6... 📈📈📈📈📈📈📈📈⬆️ ⬆️ ⬆️ ⬆️ ⬆️ ⬆️ ⬆️ ⬆️ ⬆️ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hard1 2,455 Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 Bears aren't signing bell 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NativeTheory 10 Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 For the first time ever other owners starting to send me trade offers for Montgomery and that includes last year. So many split backfields and time shares out there so nice to have a guy without any competition for touches and is a three down guy who can also get passes. This is a great game coming up to see his potential. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fried Pork Grind 524 Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 Everyone starting with confidence? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ryansm11 2,083 Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 14 minutes ago, Fried Pork Grind said: Everyone starting with confidence? 100%. Hes a 3 down horse with a fat target share against a trash run defense. Blow up game. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BigBlueMachine 52 Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 46 minutes ago, Fried Pork Grind said: Everyone starting with confidence? I am as this is about as favorable a scenario as we might get for him this year. That said, this is fantasy football and things don’t always go as the script indicates. glta 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cheezor42 534 Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 2 hours ago, Fried Pork Grind said: Everyone starting with confidence? starting with cautious optimism Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rainyy 1,624 Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 I don't think Montgomery will have too many "blow up games," but he has a really nice floor. Even against a terrible Panthers' run defense, Nagy will look for any excuse to abandon the run early. As such, I am skeptical of a 20+ carry 100+ rushing yard kind of week. My forecast: 14 Carries - 56 yards 5 Receptions - 24 yards 1 TD 16.5 Fantasy Points in .5 PPR Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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