affliction 2,172 Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 (edited) Baylor’s coach as HC now LSU’s passing coordinator as OC. Sign me up for Moore as my WR2. I can see them going after Bridgewater since he is familiar with the Brady’s (Saints) playbook Edited January 14, 2020 by affliction 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
markrc99 614 Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 Good insight, thanks! 'Cept, that's a lot going on & Bridgewater may get a much better offer than the stopgap QB on a rebuild... I also question whether Moore will be a value as a high WR2. If the current rankings at FantasyPros are any indication, he's going to come off your board much sooner than a Cooper Kupp & some other interesting breakout & bounce back candidates. Really love this player but likely a pass for me. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
affliction 2,172 Posted January 15, 2020 Author Share Posted January 15, 2020 9 minutes ago, markrc99 said: Good insight, thanks! 'Cept, that's a lot going on & Bridgewater may get a much better offer than the stopgap QB on a rebuild... I also question whether Moore will be a value as a high WR2. If the current rankings at FantasyPros are any indication, he's going to come off your board much sooner than a Cooper Kupp & some other interesting breakout & bounce back candidates. Really love this player but likely a pass for me. He was the #16th WR in my league with bums throwing him the ball. I'm not a big Bridgewater fan but he would be an upgrade over Grier, Allen and Cam. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
markrc99 614 Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 While you may be right, your reasoning isn't particularly convincing. For the one or two of us who are not in your league (again, given his current ADP), you're advocating Moore as our WR2 with a mid to late 2nd RD pick. As for Bridgewater, I'll remind that just a few short months ago, no one thought much of Ryan Tannehill either. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fjthegrey 274 Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 Traded for him in Dynasty middle of last season. I think long term he's going to be a Hopkins level player. Career stats thus far are comparable. Guy just looks the business to me. Kuechly retiring can only help their D get worse which is always good for receivers. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dontclapGonorrhea 374 Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 He has some serious hype even before these signings at their coaches positions. I think the hype is going to have people reaching and then surely being disappointed as many Odell owners. Before I start getting on any train, the draft and offseason moves need to take place. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JoeJoe88 1,164 Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 54 minutes ago, dontclapGonorrhea said: He has some serious hype even before these signings at their coaches positions. I think the hype is going to have people reaching and then surely being disappointed as many Odell owners. Before I start getting on any train, the draft and offseason moves need to take place. If you believe in the talent though, you can use that uncertainty to try and drive his price down a bit right now. His value could be even higher come May. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
affliction 2,172 Posted January 16, 2020 Author Share Posted January 16, 2020 (edited) 13 hours ago, dontclapGonorrhea said: He has some serious hype even before these signings at their coaches positions. I think the hype is going to have people reaching and then surely being disappointed as many Odell owners. Before I start getting on any train, the draft and offseason moves need to take place. The most important move will definitely be at QB they sign someone capable his value will be mid 3rd. I faded him this year because of Cam and the Curtis Samuel offseason hype train. I really didn't realize how good of a year he had until the season was over. I suspect Greg Olsen will retire next. Edited January 16, 2020 by affliction Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fort4242 744 Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 22 hours ago, affliction said: The most important move will definitely be at QB they sign someone capable his value will be mid 3rd. I faded him this year because of Cam and the Curtis Samuel offseason hype train. I really didn't realize how good of a year he had until the season was over. I suspect Greg Olsen will retire next. I'm all in on DJ Moore next year as long as the QB is at least average. Weeks 1-15 (got hurt immediately in Week 16) Moore was the WR8 in PPR, WR10 in Half, and WR12 in Standard. The dude had a clearly injured Cam Newtown and Kyle Allen throwing him the ball all year. Give me someone like Dalton, Bridgewater, Rivers or healthy Cam coming back and I'm all in. Even if Carolina gets stuck with Allen another year, or grabs someone like Case Keenum or even Matt Moore as a plug for a year, I'm still taking Moore and his value probably gets suppressed a bit. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Big Nate 1,398 Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 On 1/15/2020 at 9:23 AM, fjthegrey said: Traded for him in Dynasty middle of last season. I think long term he's going to be a Hopkins level player. Career stats thus far are comparable. Guy just looks the business to me. Kuechly retiring can only help their D get worse which is always good for receivers. I traded for him in 2018 in a keeper/dynasty and couldn't be happier. I think big things are on the way for Moore. For those that caution about over-hype and drafting too early that is a concern. I love owning Moore but I still think he has ways to improve and there may be a bit of a learning curve with a new coach and potentially new offense. I'd love to get him for a reasonable price in a few other leagues and maybe the Samuel hype train will get out of control this offseason too and help keep Moore's value low(er). Samuel did get 100 targets last year and its not a bad thing having a burner who can go deep to clear things out for Moore and take some of the heat off him. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
affliction 2,172 Posted January 19, 2020 Author Share Posted January 19, 2020 On 1/17/2020 at 9:16 AM, Fort4242 said: I'm all in on DJ Moore next year as long as the QB is at least average. Weeks 1-15 (got hurt immediately in Week 16) Moore was the WR8 in PPR, WR10 in Half, and WR12 in Standard. The dude had a clearly injured Cam Newtown and Kyle Allen throwing him the ball all year. Give me someone like Dalton, Bridgewater, Rivers or healthy Cam coming back and I'm all in. Even if Carolina gets stuck with Allen another year, or grabs someone like Case Keenum or even Matt Moore as a plug for a year, I'm still taking Moore and his value probably gets suppressed a bit. Yeah I'll even take Eli over Dalton Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jkgeezy 32 Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 On 1/14/2020 at 5:45 PM, affliction said: Baylor’s coach as HC now LSU’s passing coordinator as OC. Sign me up for Moore as my WR2. I can see them going after Bridgewater since he is familiar with the Brady’s (Saints) playbook 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Evincar 1,719 Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
affliction 2,172 Posted March 24, 2020 Author Share Posted March 24, 2020 (edited) Damn I still like DJ especially in ppr though. Robby is another desean Jackson. Might open up things for DJ Edited March 24, 2020 by affliction Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paulwall29 850 Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 Addition of Robby knocks him out of my top 12. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JoeJoe88 1,164 Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 Doesn't really change my viewpoint of DJ at all to be honest. Robby is primarily a field stretcher, and Teddy is largely an underneath and intermediate passer. DJ's going to get a ton of targets, and he's deadly after the catch. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paulwall29 850 Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 (edited) 47 minutes ago, JoeJoe88 said: Doesn't really change my viewpoint of DJ at all to be honest. Robby is primarily a field stretcher, and Teddy is largely an underneath and intermediate passer. DJ's going to get a ton of targets, and he's deadly after the catch. Doesn't change how I view DJ as a player, but there are only so many targets to go around in an offense. There are less targets following the Anderson acquisition than there would have been otherwise. Highly unlikely he will top the 135 targets he got last year. Hopefully he can score more TD's to offset any decrease in targets. I should clarify, he went from #10 in my rankings to #13 so I still think highly of him as a fantasy asset. Edited March 25, 2020 by paulwall29 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
J.T. Marlin 972 Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 41 minutes ago, JoeJoe88 said: Doesn't really change my viewpoint of DJ at all to be honest. Robby is primarily a field stretcher, and Teddy is largely an underneath and intermediate passer. DJ's going to get a ton of targets, and he's deadly after the catch. Agreed, this signing hurts Samuel much more than DJ IMO. I think Teddy target DJ underneath & on slants and let’s him do damage on YAC. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nmartinez12443 558 Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 Home Atlanta Falcons New Orleans Saints Tampa Bay Buccaneers Chicago Bears Detroit Lions Denver Broncos Las Vegas Raiders Arizona Cardinals Away Atlanta Falcons Green Bay Packers Kansas City Chiefs Los Angeles Chargers Minnesota Vikings New Orleans Saints Tampa Bay Buccaneers Washington Redskins I see 10 games where they are going to have to be throwing a ton. DJ Moore could be a nice discount with this signing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hockeyfan77 681 Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 50 minutes ago, nmartinez12443 said: Home Atlanta Falcons New Orleans Saints Tampa Bay Buccaneers Chicago Bears Detroit Lions Denver Broncos Las Vegas Raiders Arizona Cardinals Away Atlanta Falcons Green Bay Packers Kansas City Chiefs Los Angeles Chargers Minnesota Vikings New Orleans Saints Tampa Bay Buccaneers Washington Redskins I see 10 games where they are going to have to be throwing a ton. DJ Moore could be a nice discount with this signing. Honestly, teams change so much year by year, it's hard to go by schedule...That being said, I still got him in my top 15 WR Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nmartinez12443 558 Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 2 hours ago, hockeyfan77 said: Honestly, teams change so much year by year, it's hard to go by schedule...That being said, I still got him in my top 15 WR True, but saints, falcons, tampa x2, chiefs, packers, cardinals, lions. I like all of those matchups. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Breesus 483 Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 Surprised there isn’t more discussion going on in this thread. Guy is going early in round 3 usually. Is amazing after the catch and ole’ Checkdown Teddy is coming to town. I expect the panthers new young defense to be pretty terrible year 1, lots of shootouts which should only help Moore. Anderson signing I believe can help him more than hurt, should open up the field more. I believe Moore and McCaffrey will easily lead the team in targets, if he can get his TD’s up he has top 10-5 WR potential easy. I’d like to see some of your all’s opinions, he is one of the more fun prospects to talk about this year I believe. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SharkSwimmer 4,955 Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 DJ Moore is a very good receiver. Teddy Bridgewater is not a very good quarterback. Although it is mystifying to me how much love Bridgewater gets from NFL front offices and media, I suspect part of it is because of the inspirational comeback from the gruesome knee injury. Bridgewater has played, what, 7 games in the last four years? To me, he looked like an extremely cautious game manager with very limited physical tools last year even while going 5-0 for the Saints while Brees was hurt. And yet the fantasy community is acting like Bridgewater will be rock solid for the new Carolina offensive system. To me, it looks like a complete unknown for all Panthers players with the possible exception of McCaffrey. DJ Moore does not get near my top 20. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PlayTheWaivers 1,886 Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 31 minutes ago, SharkSwimmer said: DJ Moore is a very good receiver. Teddy Bridgewater is not a very good quarterback. Although it is mystifying to me how much love Bridgewater gets from NFL front offices and media, I suspect part of it is because of the inspirational comeback from the gruesome knee injury. Bridgewater has played, what, 7 games in the last four years? To me, he looked like an extremely cautious game manager with very limited physical tools last year even while going 5-0 for the Saints while Brees was hurt. And yet the fantasy community is acting like Bridgewater will be rock solid for the new Carolina offensive system. To me, it looks like a complete unknown for all Panthers players with the possible exception of McCaffrey. DJ Moore does not get near my top 20. There's always a receiver super hyped up this year ready for a breakout and domination. DJ Moore was very good last year...but Kyle Allen wasn't awful, and did throw the ball a bit farther down the field. There's risk here in the QB, the coaching staff, you're right. I'm just falling into the whole "one WR gets super hyped" and flops every year. Last year was JuJu (Although not entirely fair, he still flopped.) Could this year be DJ Moore? Curtis Samuel is a good fit for Bridgewater, and Robby should get targets. Hell, Ian Thomas is also primed to move forward. Panthers will be playing from behind alot, and could lead this to be a low scoring team... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Evincar 1,719 Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 24 minutes ago, SharkSwimmer said: DJ Moore is a very good receiver. Teddy Bridgewater is not a very good quarterback. Although it is mystifying to me how much love Bridgewater gets from NFL front offices and media, I suspect part of it is because of the inspirational comeback from the gruesome knee injury. Bridgewater has played, what, 7 games in the last four years? To me, he looked like an extremely cautious game manager with very limited physical tools last year even while going 5-0 for the Saints while Brees was hurt. And yet the fantasy community is acting like Bridgewater will be rock solid for the new Carolina offensive system. To me, it looks like a complete unknown for all Panthers players with the possible exception of McCaffrey. DJ Moore does not get near my top 20. Bridgwater is significantly better than Kyle Allen. Thats all I need to know. He may be conservative but he's very accurate. Im all in on Moore this season. I think he has a WR2 floor with the upside to finish top 5. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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