Jubanton 345 Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 I can see Dillon with his powerful running style giving him a GLB role this week 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Impreza178 6,046 Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 1 minute ago, JacobThunder15 said: Why would LaFleur speak about the 3rd string Rookie over Williams though? They know what Williams offers, Dillon could be the 1st and 2nd down back with Williams being in his usual role He gets asked questions and answers 🤷♂️ it’s not like lafleur comes off the practice field and demands a microphone to talk about AJD. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
MBarbarian 968 Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 11 minutes ago, Impreza178 said: Again- there’s a way to speak to the media that challenges and builds your players up. Jones has consistently proven to be far superior to Williams in almost every facet. not debatable Williams has a 93% catch rate (13/14) this year vs. Jones' 64% (18/28). 87% vs. 72% last year. Would you say Williams is a far superior pass catcher? If so, that's a pretty big facet. As you know, RB receptions lead to more fantasy points than RB carries. Link to post Share on other sites
TeeGee60 388 Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 13 minutes ago, Jubanton said: I can see Dillon with his powerful running style giving him a GLB role this week I don’t think gb has ever broken it down to goalline or not... they do usually ever other series with their backs and will sub Williams in for hurry up offense. I think Dillon would be used just to give him a breather in between series, doubt he gets 12 touches unless theyre running out the clock at the end. Pass blocking for Rodgers is important to them Link to post Share on other sites
BGDDYKWL 1,130 Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 Oh, well if the coaches said Williams is as good as Jones, well then... Lol. Jones is the far superior talent. That is not debatable. Doesn't mean JWill can't or won't be very productive if Jones misses time, but Jones is an elite talent. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
LongBalls 1,193 Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 We already know GB loves Williams; I don't even think that's a question. We've had the conversation over many seasons and he's usually pretty involved even with Jones at full health. I would be shocked if Williams doesn't eat most of the volume here if Jones sits; they absolutely trust him to protect Rodgers. We've all seen enough of NFL coaches to know that pass protection will likely be the major factor. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
THE_MAGIC_MAN 726 Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 just a charlie horse.. aaron jones will be out there this weekend. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Impreza178 6,046 Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 6 minutes ago, MBarbarian said: Williams has a 93% catch rate (13/14) this year vs. Jones' 64% (18/28). 87% vs. 72% last year. Would you say Williams is a far superior pass catcher? If so, that's a pretty big facet. As you know, RB receptions lead to more fantasy points than RB carries. And have they led to more points for Williams than Jones? it’s a nice stat for JW- but he mostly catches designed dumpoffs- and has received half as many targets. I’m not trying to knock jamaal- He’s a trusted pass protector and can spell their stud rb1 when needed. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Benjamin1984 563 Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 4 minutes ago, BGDDYKWL said: Oh, well if the coaches said Williams is as good as Jones, well then... Lol. Jones is the far superior talent. That is not debatable. Doesn't mean JWill can't or won't be very productive if Jones misses time, but Jones is an elite talent. I agree with this but Williams is really good. He can be a top 10ish back if Jones misses time. If he was in the right situation I could definitely see him being a top 10 back. One of the many reasons I like Jones so much is because is because Williams was both a cheap and productive handcuff. Link to post Share on other sites
TeeGee60 388 Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 3 minutes ago, THE_MAGIC_MAN said: just a charlie horse.. aaron jones will be out there this weekend. Rooting for this... sending banana smoothies and 🙏 your way jonesy 1 Link to post Share on other sites
ST. STEVEN 4,436 Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 15 minutes ago, Impreza178 said: And have they led to more points for Williams than Jones? it’s a nice stat for JW- but he mostly catches designed dumpoffs- and has received half as many targets. I’m not trying to knock jamaal- He’s a trusted pass protector and can spell their stud rb1 when needed. Exactly, those stats that were quoted are nothing more than a function of Williams get looks in the flats or screens, he ain't out there running WR routes like Jones does--30 yards plus downfield. Williams also sucks at pass pro compared to Jones...still he is the back to start IF Jones can't play. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
TTo34 2,956 Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 11 minutes ago, ST. STEVEN said: Exactly, those stats that were quoted are nothing more than a function of Williams get looks in the flats or screens, he ain't out there running WR routes like Jones does--30 yards plus downfield. Williams also sucks at pass pro compared to Jones...still he is the back to start IF Jones can't play. Wait, what? We're talking about Jamaal "Jonathan Ogden" Williams right? 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites
MBarbarian 968 Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, ST. STEVEN said: Exactly, those stats that were quoted are nothing more than a function of Williams get looks in the flats or screens, he ain't out there running WR routes like Jones does--30 yards plus downfield. Williams also sucks at pass pro compared to Jones...still he is the back to start IF Jones can't play. 👀 Edited October 23, 2020 by MBarbarian 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Tomei7 591 Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 Jamal Williams is a decent RB, but let’s not get carried away here, Jamal is not in the same boat as Aaron. Link to post Share on other sites
this guy right here 1,055 Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 2 hours ago, MBarbarian said: Williams has a 93% catch rate (13/14) this year vs. Jones' 64% (18/28). 87% vs. 72% last year. Would you say Williams is a far superior pass catcher? If so, that's a pretty big facet. As you know, RB receptions lead to more fantasy points than RB carries. All catches aren't equal. Air yards: Jones - 76 Williams - 13 Adot: average air yards per target Jones - 2.71 Williams - 0.93 Jones is targeted down field. Williams is strictly check down making it easier for him to catch, thus, higher catch rate. Jones is a better pass catcher as they are willing to target him down field in coverage. 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites
panthersfan75 125 Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 1 Link to post Share on other sites
fantasymad 377 Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 They better be smart and sit him for a week. Aggravation or overcompensation can lead to much more serious injury. Just call him out already GB. Link to post Share on other sites
ST. STEVEN 4,436 Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 Unless this is an unbelievably minor strain, then he is 100% sitting. Pack med staff is super cautious. Terrible to lose a super juicy matchup, but better to not have him battling this thing for weeks ahead. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
PackerBacker555 943 Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 They will probably sit him but this is no push over game. David bahktiari being OUT also hurts value big time. Link to post Share on other sites
KennyWoo 3,323 Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 Packers should sign John Kuhn for goal line work. Link to post Share on other sites
Benjamin1984 563 Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 1 minute ago, KennyWoo said: Packers should sign John Kuhn for goal line work. They just drafted a 250 pound RB in the 2nd round. If they aren't going to use Jamal Williams there i'd hope they would give him a shot. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
RJMacReady 13 Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 Yeah...I’ve been burned stating JW too many times. If Jones is out, I’m looking elsewhere. Link to post Share on other sites
pastorofmuppets2 10,640 Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 4 hours ago, KennyWoo said: Packers should sign John Kuhn for goal line work. 4 hours ago, Benjamin1984 said: They just drafted a 250 pound RB in the 2nd round. If they aren't going to use Jamal Williams there i'd hope they would give him a shot. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
smetana34 429 Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 18 hours ago, ST. STEVEN said: Exactly, those stats that were quoted are nothing more than a function of Williams get looks in the flats or screens, he ain't out there running WR routes like Jones does--30 yards plus downfield. Williams also sucks at pass pro compared to Jones...still he is the back to start IF Jones can't play. This entire post was a really awful take 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Impreza178 6,046 Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 23 minutes ago, smetana34 said: This entire post was a really awful take got a bit carried away saying JW sucks at pass pro. Not true. But Jones is just as good, and his receiving stats bear out the fact that he’s used more often and on deeper routes. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
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