mjb 808 Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 Parker’s a WR1 with Fitzmagic, WR3 with Tua.. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gohawks 10,211 Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 32 minutes ago, mjb said: Parker’s a WR1 with Fitzmagic, WR3 with Tua.. It’s insane. You rarely see that much difference. It’s like Antonio Brown with Big Ben and Vick (well, not as bad but still). The problem is Parker is more of the Allen Robinson mold. Big physical WR that makes contested catches and is a great deep threat. This is a problem for two reasons: 1. Tua plays like a scared little *****. Literally all he throws is stupid dump offs and short passes. Check down legend Alex Smith averages over half a yard more per attempt. 2. On the occasions he does throw a jump ball, they’re terribly placed. No touch and often underthrown. I like Tua. I liked him coming out of college and think he has a good future. That being said, Fitz is CLEARLY better right now and as someone that owns Parker in 3/3 leagues I ******** HATE Tua. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tghetty 355 Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 As a non owner of Parker and going up against in the first playoff round please please please start Tua Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dislimb 1,412 Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 2 hours ago, mjb said: Parker’s a WR1 with Fitzmagic, WR3 with Tua.. Parker is a definite WR1 with Fitzpatrick. He’s only a desperation FLEX (at best) with Tua IMO. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
King Gonzo 147 Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 Well we all saw that coming. I guess if he wasn’t already, to the bench he goes. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dirty Little Birdie 1,144 Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 To be fair, Parker was targeted like 4 times in the end zone when the ball was inside the 10 yard line. It's not like Tua wasn't trying to feed him when it counted. Parker just couldn't make a play on any of the balls. He legit could have easily had 2 Td's yesterday. 1 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Heizz 90 Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 Wish he wasn’t kicked out, only needed a few more catches for playoffs. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The G Man 1,069 Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 Man, tough to trust him with Tua at QB and a tough match up this week. Didn't think there would be that much of a difference between Tua and Fitzy as it relates to Parker's targets, but boy was I ever wrong about that! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Islanderman 251 Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 Tua is gonna get exposed this week as a fraud. His defense has bailed him out. Not gonna happen against Mahomes. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Deejay 35 Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 24 minutes ago, Islanderman said: Tua is gonna get exposed this week as a fraud. His defense has bailed him out. Not gonna happen against Mahomes. I agree! I was hoping Fitz would be needed to bail them out last week. It may not eventually turn out this way but Tua looks like a younger lefty version of Alex Smith. KC will force Miami into a more aggressive offense. If Tua cannot push the ball downfield,(Parker) I believe there will be a Fitzy sighting this week🤷🏻♂️ 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tpat30 784 Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 I would drop him, but he’s on my bench for the rest of they year unless Fitzpatrick gets the start. I gave him one last chance with Tua and it burned me. In retrospect, I guess he could’ve had 3 TDs. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Deejay 35 Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 (edited) On 12/7/2020 at 10:10 AM, Dirty Little Birdie said: To be fair, Parker was targeted like 4 times in the end zone when the ball was inside the 10 yard line. It's not like Tua wasn't trying to feed him when it counted. Parker just couldn't make a play on any of the balls. He legit could have easily had 2 Td's yesterday. I seen a few of those end zone targets. They were awful fade pattern throws and uncatchable. One of them was thrown better to the defender. I also seen him throw a fade to a tight end and that too was terrible. He appears so afraid of throwing a pick that his pass attempt is awful. Edited December 8, 2020 by Deejay 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MingusDew 407 Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 8 minutes ago, Deejay said: I seen a few of those end zone targets. They were awful fade pattern throws and uncatchable. One of them was thrown better to the defender. I also seen him throw a fade to a tight end and that too was terrible. He appears so afraid of throwing a pick that his pass attempt is awful. That's the thing. A Tua RZ target is kind of worthless... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Joe Mama 131 Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 Tua's gonna have to throw, maybe Parker a decent play this week? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FouLLine 2,849 Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 1 hour ago, Joe Mama said: Tua's gonna have to throw, maybe Parker a decent play this week? Let's hope. We have all been waiting for it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mtx 149 Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 Who is flexing Parker this week?? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WSR 23 Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 I keep going back and forth on flexing him. I said I wouldn't start him again with Tua, but here I am. The thing is-when have the Dolphins trailed under Tua where he was forced to throw? I feel like every game he has played they were up and just draining clock. There's no way they hold Mahomes down so game script should be positive. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
THall0890 444 Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, WSR said: I keep going back and forth on flexing him. I said I wouldn't start him again with Tua, but here I am. The thing is-when have the Dolphins trailed under Tua where he was forced to throw? I feel like every game he has played they were up and just draining clock. There's no way they hold Mahomes down so game script should be positive. Exactly this. All signs signal that his production falls off with Tua under center. My gut says KC will be playing ahead, forcing Tua to throw. The question mark is Gesicki. No clue who will be go-to but I'll be firing up Parker > Aiyuk and rolling the dice the target share falls in Parkers favor. Edited December 12, 2020 by THall0890 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tpat30 784 Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 (edited) 15 minutes ago, THall0890 said: Exactly this. All signs signal that his production falls off with Tua under center. My gut says KC will be playing ahead, forcing Tua to throw. The question mark is Gesicki. No clue who will be go-to but I'll be firing up Parker > Aiyuk and rolling the dice the target share falls in Parkers favor. Good luck with that. Aiyuk has shown time and time again that he can produce just like he did last week against the #2 ranked against WR Bills. Mullens has also shown time and time again that he can get the ball to him. Tua? Not so much. Look for Miami to steal the game plan that Denver went with. Denver has a bad offense and defense and found a way to keep it close. Miami will run, run, and run. Tua will hit Gesicki from time to time. Parker will get terrible looking targets. Miami will try and control the clock and play just enough defense to at least keep it close. Edited December 12, 2020 by tpat30 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SharkSwimmer 4,960 Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 Even if KC jumps out to a big lead, it is pretty hard to have faith in Parker with Tua at QB. At least at this stage of his career, Tua does not appear capable of big passing numbers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Joe Mama 131 Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 Have to hope for a TD. I’m sitting bc have better options but I can see playing him as a flex 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SyNdicateZ 1,470 Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 Man, and I was told/thought Tua was some awesome super accurate passing QB.... what the hell happened with that? dude sux 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SharkSwimmer 4,960 Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 14 minutes ago, SyNdicateZ said: Man, and I was told/thought Tua was some awesome super accurate passing QB.... what the hell happened with that? dude sux I haven't studied Tua's games enough to say for sure but it seems to be the normal rookie stuff--recognizing different coverages, dealing with blitzes, pocket awareness, general decision making and the speed of the game. Tua is no longer picking on Missouri or Alcorn St. behind 5 future NFL O-lineman with the Crimson Tide. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DerrickHenrysCleats 6,037 Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 11 minutes ago, SyNdicateZ said: Man, and I was told/thought Tua was some awesome super accurate passing QB.... what the hell happened with that? dude sux Lol The game plan is different with Tua. Chan Gailey has said as much. Gailey has coached Ryan Fitzpatrick on 3 different teams for like 7 or 8 years. Gailey is fully confident in Fitz's ability to check to different plays at the line of scrimmage, something he does not afford to Tua and Hailey has said so in interviews, that Fitz has a better grasp of Gaileys offense. They are asking Tua to not turn the ball over and to let the defense do the heavy lifting. Tua is an accurate passer. I don't think he has thrown an interception yet this year but that is also by design, the playcalling is not allowing him to check off of any plays and they are mostly conservative type play calls. None of that matters though because his fantasy numbers don't look like Justin Herberts 1st 5 games and so he gets labeled as not a very accurate passer despite being 4-1 as a starter while Herbert has only won 2 games. All that is just to justify or yield an explanation as to why Parker's numbers have not been as good with Tua as they were with Fitz. Gailey is fine letting Fitzy sling the rock and run the offense while he is trying to coddle Tua, try to manage his plays, and let the defense work. I know Tua can throw the ball but watching the games and reading Gaileys comments about Tua and his history with Fitz it's easy to see the trust isn't there from Gailey to let Tua open it up and Flores is a defensive minded guy who is fine with defensive ball and running the ball to kill the clock so he isn't advocating for Tua to air it out. It's a long answer to say that Tua is a very good passer but at this point they aren't letting or asking him to fling it around like Herbert and lose games, they want him to hand it off, convert a few throws and don't turn it over and keep winning games which hasn't been fruitful from a fantasy perspective for any dolphins players. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Deejay 35 Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 Unfortunately, he is my best option as #3 wr. I hope the need for the offense to score points in this game forces Tua to target Parker or Fitz comes to the rescue if he fails. I need Mahomes to light Miami up and force the issue🤷🏻♂️ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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