Spyplane 1,602 Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 Well the honeymoon is over and now I'm scared she's gonna take everything if I go for divorce. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BallinOnnaBudget 345 Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 He had a decent game from a scoring standpoint (which I accredit to me benching him) but man oh man Edmonds looks about 2.5x faster than the Drake out there. Yeesh. Timeshare on deck. KK will continue to feed Chase until Drakey can remember how to run. Thinking he may have bulked up this offseason to try to be more durable, and lost a step (or three) due to the change. Who knows. Not good tho, doesnt even pass the eye test. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AnonymousRob 3,516 Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 This is what a true buy low looks like, fwiw. Yes, there are a lot of questions here - if there weren't any he'd still be going for close to his draft cost. It's hard to buy when there are few, if any, positives to the situation. But again, that's why he won't cost much. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FinsUp24 519 Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 FWIW, really not convinced that Drake has lost much of a step this year. There is a channel called “East Coast Taffy” on YouTube that has put together clips of every single Drake touch weeks 1-4. Watch those videos and you’ll have an extremely tough time saying that Drake is the problem. He has absolutely nowhere to go on almost every run. On the very rare occasion that he has a hole, he’s running well. 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dropshadows 269 Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 1 hour ago, FinsUp24 said: FWIW, really not convinced that Drake has lost much of a step this year. There is a channel called “East Coast Taffy” on YouTube that has put together clips of every single Drake touch weeks 1-4. Watch those videos and you’ll have an extremely tough time saying that Drake is the problem. He has absolutely nowhere to go on almost every run. On the very rare occasion that he has a hole, he’s running well. I'm with it. Except its a hard sell when Edmonds rips off a 29-yard TD on a single carry. 🤧 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nmartinez12443 558 Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 2 hours ago, FinsUp24 said: FWIW, really not convinced that Drake has lost much of a step this year. There is a channel called “East Coast Taffy” on YouTube that has put together clips of every single Drake touch weeks 1-4. Watch those videos and you’ll have an extremely tough time saying that Drake is the problem. He has absolutely nowhere to go on almost every run. On the very rare occasion that he has a hole, he’s running well. Thanks for mentioning those, I watched the videos and I agree does not look slow. I will say his vision does seem off he had a few lanes where he could of had huge runs but picks the wrong lane. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sSektor 2,272 Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 I see that Drake is getting all the garbage uncreative run calls that DJ got after his injury last season. Is Drake washed too or is Edmunds actually just an elite RB? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Travis Burten 982 Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 14 hours ago, sSektor said: I see that Drake is getting all the garbage uncreative run calls that DJ got after his injury last season. Is Drake washed too or is Edmunds actually just an elite RB? If he was really an elite RB, he would be starting on an NFL team Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FinsUp24 519 Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 21 hours ago, dropshadows said: I'm with it. Except its a hard sell when Edmonds rips off a 29-yard TD on a single carry. 🤧 Even with that long carry boosting Edmonds YPC, Drake is still averaging more YPC than Edmonds (just barely).. I’d like to think that the coaching staff sees that Drake has nowhere to run which is why he’s still seeing the lion’s share of the carries despite his inefficiency. Hopefully Maxx Williams returns this week to provide some blocking. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dropshadows 269 Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 1 hour ago, FinsUp24 said: Hopefully Maxx Williams returns this week to provide some blocking. I always seem to forget how important full backs are in providing leverage for the backfield. I remember Juszczyk out last year for 49ers and their RB's struggled as well. It's been 3 weeks since Williams went on IR so heres to hoping he comes back AND Drake keeps his share of carries. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FinsUp24 519 Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 1 minute ago, dropshadows said: I always seem to forget how important full backs are in providing leverage for the backfield. I remember Juszczyk out last year for 49ers and their RB's struggled as well. It's been 3 weeks since Williams went on IR so heres to hoping he comes back AND Drake keeps his share of carries. Maxx Williams graded out as the #1 blocking TE in the league last year. Should be a big boost for the run game once he is back up to speed. 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dropshadows 269 Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 3 minutes ago, FinsUp24 said: Maxx Williams graded out as the #1 blocking TE in the league last year. Should be a big boost for the run game once he is back up to speed. oh my bad, idk why i thought he was a full back. either way, theres definitely reason for some hope here. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gohawks 10,212 Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 Fact 1: Outside of one gaping hole Edmonds is averaging 2.7 YPC despite being a COP which usually leads to a higher YPC. Fact 2: Drake has been at 70% snap count every week. Even last week when people decided to act like it's the end of the world because of one run his snap count didn't change. 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gohawks 10,212 Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 17 hours ago, sSektor said: I see that Drake is getting all the garbage uncreative run calls that DJ got after his injury last season. Is Drake washed too or is Edmunds actually just an elite RB? Neither are true. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mortman212 324 Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 Poor use of Drake is what's hurt him, he's like Sony Michel last year, Drake only gets running plays, no screens, no wheel routes, no lining up as a WR, that's the problem. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FinsUp24 519 Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 Just now, mortman212 said: Poor use of Drake is what's hurt him, he's like Sony Michel last year, Drake only gets running plays, no screens, no wheel routes, no lining up as a WR, that's the problem. Which is the most puzzling thing. He was always a great receiver in Miami. At times he was the third down back and his sole use was the receiving game. Then he showed how effective he can be in the passing game when he went to Arizona last year. Now he’s an absolute zero in that department?... It makes no sense. 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guccimonster 35 Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 9 minutes ago, mortman212 said: Poor use of Drake is what's hurt him, he's like Sony Michel last year, Drake only gets running plays, no screens, no wheel routes, no lining up as a WR, that's the problem. Actually false drake runs plenty of routes every game, mostly pass blocking then going out for a quick dump off however, kyler either throws it down field quickly on one read or takes off with it. 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jmcampbe11 868 Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 8 minutes ago, FinsUp24 said: Which is the most puzzling thing. He was always a great receiver in Miami. At times he was the third down back and his sole use was the receiving game. Then he showed how effective he can be in the passing game when he went to Arizona last year. Now he’s an absolute zero in that department?... It makes no sense. I think the problem is, instead of dumping it off to Drake, Murray keeps it and runs. It's a terrible strategy and one that shows me that Murray hasn't really progressed much this season as a QB. Until Murray matures I worry that they'll continue to use Drake as more of a traditional back. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Esteel 19 Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 I'm still rolling with Drake for one more week. If they would just throw to him 3-4 times a game it would open his running game up. Maybe they'll give it a try this week. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gohawks 10,212 Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 2 hours ago, jmcampbe11 said: I think the problem is, instead of dumping it off to Drake, Murray keeps it and runs. It's a terrible strategy and one that shows me that Murray hasn't really progressed much this season as a QB. Until Murray matures I worry that they'll continue to use Drake as more of a traditional back. This would make sense except Edmonds has 3x the receptions on half the snaps. So while I agree Murray is hurting him similar to how Cam hurt RBs early on the fault is mostly on coaching and how they scheme him. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MBarbarian 968 Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 (edited) If Drake misses any time at all, he'll get the David Johnson treatment when he gets back (he'll get benched). I wonder if his preseason injury is still nagging him. Any insiders with knowledge? Edited October 14, 2020 by MBarbarian Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DerrickHenrysCleats 6,039 Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 I can't believe I wish Drake was back on the Miami Dolphins. I'd rather see him being used like Myles Gas Can than how they are doing him in the 🏜️ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TwoCan Sam 293 Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 18 minutes ago, MBarbarian said: If Drake misses any time at all, he'll get the David Johnson treatment when he gets back (he'll get benched). I wonder if his preseason injury is still nagging him. Any insiders with knowledge? That could be part of an issue, however it’s not the main problem. Run blocking and Murray are the main problems. On run plays they get barely any holes for Drake to utilize (Edmonds also struggles to get anything going). Murray is also taking off and running after he sees that his first read (Hopkins) is covered and refuses to check down. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Travis Burten 982 Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 He needs to have a legit 20+pt game this week Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lml417 21 Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 what are some realistic expectations for Drake this week? Cardinals should be up against Cowboys this week. Potential shootout game? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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