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1 hour ago, murraygd13 said:

I'm guessing the first of July or the All Star break. Purely a guess, but just think this thing gets worse for a week or two, before hopefully it starts to come into control.  Players will need a couple weeks to get ready, they players association won't let them start games immediately.  We may see extended rosters, at least for a few weeks into the season.

then just cancel the season at that point.  I wouldn't even watch anyway because a half season in baseball defeats the whole purpose of the long form marathon appeal of the game. 

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Crazy with no sports. Talked to my wife last night.  Apparently works in HR. Nice girl. 

Giancarlo Stanton just sprained his wrist washing his hands

This is the rant of someone who’s never had to sacrifice anything or even think about anyone other than themself. Just grotesque.

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5 minutes ago, AJdude said:

then just cancel the season at that point.  I wouldn't even watch anyway because a half season in baseball defeats the whole purpose of the long form marathon appeal of the game. 

 

I'm the opposite.  Even if the season is only one game, I would watch it and probably have tears of joy in my eyes.  

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3 minutes ago, AJdude said:

then just cancel the season at that point.  I wouldn't even watch anyway because a half season in baseball defeats the whole purpose of the long form marathon appeal of the game. 


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I'm more of a fan of the marathon rather than the sprint, but at the risk of sounding too pollyanna-ish about it, and with the stipulation that none of this matters as much as controlling the disease to keep more people from dying, I kinda feel like a shortened season might be good for the game.  The people who visit these forums regularly are probably in the 90th to 100th percentile in terms of baseball fandom.  By definition, if you're willing to spend hours poring over spreadsheets and statcast charts, you're probably fine watching your team play 162 games.

But most fans aren't like us, and the long season is kind of a drag for the median fan who might follow the team but doesn't want to tune in for a single game out of many that has very little effect on the standings compared to an NBA, NHL, or NFL game.  I will be very interested to see how the TV ratings and attendance numbers are if/when the season starts.

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32 minutes ago, kmoore1521 said:

Bars, Gyms, Casino's etc all closed state wide 8pm tonight in NY state just announced

 

RIP Summer Bod 2020

Saw that this will be NY, NJ, and Connecticut.  I know you put etc, but just also included in that list will be theaters and restaurants (except for delivery and take-out).

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6 minutes ago, tonycpsu said:

I'm more of a fan of the marathon rather than the sprint, but at the risk of sounding too pollyanna-ish about it, and with the stipulation that none of this matters as much as controlling the disease to keep more people from dying, I kinda feel like a shortened season might be good for the game.  The people who visit these forums regularly are probably in the 90th to 100th percentile in terms of baseball fandom.  By definition, if you're willing to spend hours poring over spreadsheets and statcast charts, you're probably fine watching your team play 162 games.

But most fans aren't like us, and the long season is kind of a drag for the median fan who might follow the team but doesn't want to tune in for a single game out of many that has very little effect on the standings compared to an NBA, NHL, or NFL game.  I will be very interested to see how the TV ratings and attendance numbers are if/when the season starts.

I would hope it isn't too successful because then I would hate to see the powers that be feel like that's the future of the game and make changes to it.  Manfred was already floating that dumb playoff idea a few weeks ago.  He might turn the season into 120 games and then a 24 team, best 4-of-7 playoff format tournament

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22 minutes ago, Ham Porter said:

I had read an article recently (was going to post but can't find) which showed it about the same. Good info. 

@merlin401 this is what I was referencing previously. 

 

 

Are you telling me with good conscience that you think the fatality rate of COVID-19 is going to be anywhere in the ballpark to the H1N1 pandemic (which is estimated at 0.02%)?  Say it drops to 1%, that's still 50x what H1N1 was.  Can hospitals handle FIFTY times the caseload as 2009?  That's even to say I agree with 1%, which I don't know that I do.  Italy's death rate climbs every day lately (now around 7% I believe).  I think that's probably higher than it will end up being but *I think* being the operative word:  I'm not an expert and I don't know.

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I dunno. Maybe I am being optimistic but even one month of isolation should flatten that curve to where we can get back to normal.  

Someone brought up a good point that if these players are sitting on their but for a month it will take at least another month and half to get ready.

June 1st is my call.  120 game schedule.

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In South Korea, pro basketball games are gearing to start back up in the next couple of weeks, after shutting down in February.  They'll be playing in front of empty arenas.  I think we'll see that in baseball, to start the season at least, some time in June.  Barring any outbreaks amongst players between now and then.  

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23 minutes ago, OaksterDan said:

In South Korea, pro basketball games are gearing to start back up in the next couple of weeks, after shutting down in February.  They'll be playing in front of empty arenas.  I think we'll see that in baseball, to start the season at least, some time in June.  Barring any outbreaks amongst players between now and then.  

The Rays have been doing this for years.

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On Monday, Commissioner Robert D. Manfred, Jr. conducted a conference call with the 30 Clubs of Major League Baseball. Following last night’s newly updated recommendations from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) restricting events of more than 50 people for the next eight weeks, the opening of the 2020 regular season will be pushed back in accordance with that guidance.
 

https://www.mlb.com/news/opening-of-regular-season-to-be-pushed-back

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4 hours ago, B&F said:

Mortality rate isn’t the issue. It is spread of the virus to the vulnerable.

It might take as little as two weeks to flatten the curve if people only go out when necessary and take precautions.

 

Mortality rate is exactly the issue.  Otherwise it wouldn't be a big deal people would just get mild symptoms.  Workers over time would all end up taking 2 weeks off of work and no big deal.  But the mortality rate of covid-19 is very high.  20% of the people who get infected will require intensive care to be sustained and a higher percentage (when compared to other viruses) of those 20% will still die with intensive care.

 

Yes right now everyone is being overly cautious.  The consensus seems to be let's over react and be overly cautious and get criticized later for that rather than turn into Italy. 

 

I genuinely agree with you that in the next 2 weeks I do think we will start to see a substantial flattening of the curve.  A bunch of testing facilities went up this weekend / today and they are supposedly on a network to better track the data.  So let's get some real data so that the models can be updated over the next couple weeks.  But when there's very little data, very few testing kits, and a White House administration clearly lying (Trump seems to be finally being more transparent) about covid-19 it is going to highlight all the uncertainty and unknown.  The unknown is what causes panic and hysteria. 

 

Don't be surprised when the cases skyrocket tomorrow and all this week due to the testing infrastructure finally starting to ramp up.  As of yesterday The US was unfortunately the lowest country in tests per million people at 23 even Italy was at 826 test/M and South Korea was the best at 3,692 test/M.  But getting good reliable data will really allow the experts to make much more accurate models that better project the pandemic.  Right now everyone is looking at the worst case scenario Italy and freaking out.  Other countries are already claiming to be on the other side of "the curve" (China & South Korea). 

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2 hours ago, MrBrown said:

8pm curfew in NJ now.  5am-8pm no one leaves their home.  I'm not even a drinker but I feel like stocking up on booze lol

 

You mentioned that you were symptomatic a while back. How are you feeling? Any further diagnosis? And can you please continue to stay as far away from us as possible.

 

 

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Trump today:

* ”it’s bad, it’s real bad”

* economy is going into recession 

* prepare for life not to get back to normal until July or August 

* coronavirus is not under control in the USA.

It took a few weeks but looks like reality finally bit him in the a**.  For those who are uninformed and not taking this threat seriously, please start doing so now. Quarantine and such only works if we all buy in together and face this threat responsibly 

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52 minutes ago, FouLLine said:

Mortality rate is exactly the issue. 

More like I heard the main issue is the hospitals. They cannot take the influx of people getting sick at the same time. This COVID 19 has a high attack rate numerous people can get sick at one time and that is why states USA etc are trying to put mandatory numbers on how many can congregation at one time. Mortality rate will always be at the forefront but it is not the main issue. 
 

This is just a number not exact. there are 300,000 ICU beds in all , 200,000 are being used by sick patients from cancer survivors, heart attack victims etc... this is why everything is cancelled from sporting events to concerts...

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Times are getting rough.  Next week will probably be full blown panic. I just keep thinking about 12 monkeys. I always thought Terminator would be first to reality.

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