NInsko 261 Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 I'd never draft him to begin with, He will siphon someone elses value regardless of where he goes Eagles downgrades Sanders Bucs RJ3 etc .at least thats how i see it. Link to post Share on other sites
Savatage79 2,461 Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 2 minutes ago, NInsko said: I'd never draft him to begin with, He will siphon someone elses value regardless of where he goes Eagles downgrades Sanders Bucs RJ3 etc .at least thats how i see it. Meh that's going to far, the kid deserves to play if he can get signed. Rbbcs are commonplace now so that's most teams. Link to post Share on other sites
NInsko 261 Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 You basically made my argument. But see it opposite as i do. Link to post Share on other sites
Savatage79 2,461 Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 (edited) 15 minutes ago, NInsko said: You basically made my argument. But see it opposite as i do. Yea but the kid can still play, he deserves to be somewhere Edited July 26, 2020 by Savatage79 1 Link to post Share on other sites
NInsko 261 Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 Also due to his overinflated asking price. Buddy got cut and said he'd sit out till next yr if he didnt get top dollar. I see his view point but it just made me not a fan and i couldnt care less if he ever played in the league again. Link to post Share on other sites
aapox 898 Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 3 hours ago, Savatage79 said: Meh that's going to far, the kid deserves to play if he can get signed. Rbbcs are commonplace now so that's most teams. I just watched some highlights to freshen up a bit. In his good plays he certainly still showed some burst and he’s an elite pass catching option. Maybe it’s just that Atlanta has had a pretty poor rush blocking line the last couple years and he got swallowed up too often. i think I agree with Ninsko though. I worry about him sapping someone else’s value more than having his own, but if Tampa doesn’t like what RoJo is bringing freeman could certainly be in play as a fantasy viable option in Tampa. So there’s at least one team where I could see it. I’ve changed my mind just a little bit. Link to post Share on other sites
1972Miamidolphins 1,387 Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 (edited) 12 hours ago, NInsko said: Hope he doesnt get signed. Lol, awful post, and ive made awful posts before, hes getting signed bro, you dont let a pro bowl proven rb stay on the streets who is only 28 years old Edited July 26, 2020 by 1972Miamidolphins Link to post Share on other sites
JoeJoe88 1,164 Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 8 hours ago, aapox said: I just watched some highlights to freshen up a bit. In his good plays he certainly still showed some burst and he’s an elite pass catching option. Maybe it’s just that Atlanta has had a pretty poor rush blocking line the last couple years and he got swallowed up too often. i think I agree with Ninsko though. I worry about him sapping someone else’s value more than having his own, but if Tampa doesn’t like what RoJo is bringing freeman could certainly be in play as a fantasy viable option in Tampa. So there’s at least one team where I could see it. I’ve changed my mind just a little bit. If he went to Tampa I think he'd immediately become the 1A, and likely post top 20 numbers. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
NInsko 261 Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 7 hours ago, 1972Miamidolphins said: Lol, awful post, and ive made awful posts before, hes getting signed bro, you dont let a pro bowl proven rb stay on the streets who is only 28 years old Im glad i got you to lol.. Its just a opinion, I guess im just not a Freeman fan he seems to always get hurt and in the past few yrs was overvalued because of his past success. If he was still valuable (good) why would ATL cut him for a RB with known knee problems? just seems odd. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Savatage79 2,461 Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 19 minutes ago, NInsko said: Im glad i got you to lol.. Its just a opinion, I guess im just not a Freeman fan he seems to always get hurt and in the past few yrs was overvalued because of his past success. If he was still valuable (good) why would ATL cut him for a RB with known knee problems? just seems odd. I just think you need to refresh your memory on his stats, he's only missed really one season outa 6 and has averaged over 4.0 yards in most of his seasons. These sports teams make weird decisions, so you can't just always take it at face value. Last year looked like simply an off year, but I watched a lot of Atlanta games and the line was not blocking great for freeman , and yet he still managed 1000 combined yards and 6 tds . He's only 28 and I just think is being undervalued a good bit. I don't think Atlanta wanted to give this team to Freeman over Julio and Ryan ,he's always felt held back but still manages solid seasons Link to post Share on other sites
SharkSwimmer 4,985 Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 There are dozens of pro bowl running backs who were out of the league by 28. It is a rough position and guys don't always last that long, even without injury. Link to post Share on other sites
mocha4313 876 Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 7 minutes ago, SharkSwimmer said: There are dozens of pro bowl running backs who were out of the league by 28. It is a rough position and guys don't always last that long, even without injury. True but someone will still sign him to be a number 2 in a committee I bet. He had a deal from Seattle but rejected it because he thought he could get more Link to post Share on other sites
Boudewijn 4,826 Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 1 hour ago, mocha4313 said: True but someone will still sign him to be a number 2 in a committee I bet. He had a deal from Seattle but rejected it because he thought he could get more The main question is going to be how badly he needs the money. He had a great payday in 2017, but when you're 25 it's easy enough to spend that in a hurry. If he was smart/had a smart agent and stashed most of it away, I don't think there's a reason for him to risk his health at the vet minimum. If he spent most of it already, then all of this will have been a pretty rude awakening. Link to post Share on other sites
SharkSwimmer 4,985 Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 Running backs often think they are stars and teams will fight for their services long after all 32 teams have lost interest. Link to post Share on other sites
Boudewijn 4,826 Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 (edited) 18 minutes ago, SharkSwimmer said: Running backs often think they are stars and teams will fight for their services long after all 32 teams have lost interest. Which is why I will support any RB that decides to hold out or negotiate and get some cash now. "Next year" might as well be a different galaxy, so get your money while you can. Edited July 27, 2020 by Boudewijn 2 Link to post Share on other sites
JoeJoe88 1,164 Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 7 hours ago, SharkSwimmer said: There are dozens of pro bowl running backs who were out of the league by 28. It is a rough position and guys don't always last that long, even without injury. Yeah everyone saw 28 year-old Carlos Hyde last year, who'd been pinballing from team to team get picked up by Houston and rush for 1000k coming. I know you laughed at my comment above, but who's going to stand in the way of Freeman seeing significant work in Tampa? A third round rookie who's already at a severe disadvantage because of COVID? Ronald Jones? (lol) You think Tom Brady's not going to want a vet who is still an above average pass catcher in the backfield with him the majority of the time? Freeman has always been willing and capable in pass protection, despite his smaller frame. He's going to sign somewhere, and it may be a terrible landing spot that has little to no fantasy value. But if he wound up in Tampa he would likely be on a lot of my teams this year. Link to post Share on other sites
Boudewijn 4,826 Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 1 hour ago, JoeJoe88 said: who's going to stand in the way of Freeman seeing significant work in Tampa? A third round rookie who's already at a severe disadvantage because of COVID? Ronald Jones? (lol) You think Tom Brady's not going to want a vet who is still an above average pass catcher in the backfield with him the majority of the time? Freeman has always been willing and capable in pass protection, despite his smaller frame. He's going to sign somewhere, and it may be a terrible landing spot that has little to no fantasy value. But if he wound up in Tampa he would likely be on a lot of my teams this year. +1 BTW I'm laughing less at RoJo who had a pretty decent second hlf of 2019. But Freeman in Tampa should have some value. I could also see him at the Pats, and actually I think he wouldn't be useless back in Atlanta either. Link to post Share on other sites
SharkSwimmer 4,985 Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 8 hours ago, Boudewijn said: Which is why I will support any RB that decides to hold out or negotiate and get some cash now. "Next year" might as well be a different galaxy, so get your money while you can. Then why are you supporting D. Freeman in this thread, who did the opposite of following your advice? Link to post Share on other sites
SharkSwimmer 4,985 Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 @JoeJoe88 I was laughing at Devonta Freeman, not you. All this speculation of how great he could be in the right landing spot is cracking me up because training camp starts tomorrow. Teams have been working with their players all spring and summer virtually to learn playbooks and conduct their programs, and not one of the 32 NFL teams liked him enough to sign him. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Boudewijn 4,826 Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 (edited) 35 minutes ago, SharkSwimmer said: Then why are you supporting D. Freeman in this thread, who did the opposite of following your advice? What? Freeman tried to get the money he felt he could get. He failed, because clearly he overestimated himself and/or his options, but he certainly tried. BTW I wouldn't call it "my advice". It's an option some RBs have, not something all RBs need to do. Eg Cook should smell the coffee and realise that if one side says 10M and the other one 13M, then you need to cut to the chase and take the money and run. Raheem Mostert should probably realise he doesn't hold a lot of bargaining power. I'm certainly not saying holding out is a golden bullet - it's clearly not. But if a guy who's been running his a55 off feels that's what he needs to do: go for it. Too bad for my fantasy team, but I'll get over it. Edited July 27, 2020 by Boudewijn Link to post Share on other sites
SharkSwimmer 4,985 Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 I agree players should look out for their own interests and get as much money as they can. D. Freeman should have taken whatever Seattle offered, because what he is getting now is zip. Link to post Share on other sites
hockeyfan77 681 Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 3 hours ago, SharkSwimmer said: I agree players should look out for their own interests and get as much money as they can. D. Freeman should have taken whatever Seattle offered, because what he is getting now is zip. I don't agree with a lot of your post but you are 100% correct here 1 Link to post Share on other sites
paulwall29 850 Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 Yea this dude has really botched things for himself. Gonna have to wait and hope for an injury. Link to post Share on other sites
1972Miamidolphins 1,387 Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 Freeman is gonna run WILD, its jot an if, its a when he gets signed too bad covid is going to destroy everything, so yes, he shouldve signed with seattle Link to post Share on other sites
Savatage79 2,461 Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 23 minutes ago, 1972Miamidolphins said: Freeman is gonna run WILD, its jot an if, its a when he gets signed too bad covid is going to destroy everything, so yes, he shouldve signed with seattle Man dude you're pretty depressing to listen to Link to post Share on other sites
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