StevenSC400 1,002 Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 (edited) 9 minutes ago, AlexxelA said: Probably need to start thinking about a playoffs backup plan. Why? He played the best passing defense in the nfl today and threw 3 TDs one pick. Good luck finding a backup to do better. Edited December 7, 2020 by StevenSC400 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Deuce1042 126 Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 1 minute ago, StevenSC400 said: Why? He played the best passing defense in the nfl today and threw 3 TDs one pick. Not a very good performance as far as real life implications (at all) but he had to have been serviceable in fantasy. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
StevenSC400 1,002 Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 Just now, Deuce1042 said: Not a very good performance as far as real life implications (at all) but he had to have been serviceable in fantasy. We’re playing fantasy football here. No one cares about real life. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AlexxelA 134 Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 2 minutes ago, StevenSC400 said: Why? He played the best passing defense in the nfl today and threw 3 TDs one pick. Good luck finding a backup to do better. Well, it's partly in frustration of my #1 player letting me down. Since the shoulder injury he's avg. 23 rush yards/game, compared to pre-injury, he has been a big step down to QB2 status. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chippa 1,340 Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 2 minutes ago, AlexxelA said: Well, it's partly in frustration of my #1 player letting me down. Since the shoulder injury he's avg. 23 rush yards/game, compared to pre-injury, he has been a big step down to QB2 status. He’s not a qb 2 now lmao jeez Quote Link to post Share on other sites
StevenSC400 1,002 Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 2 minutes ago, AlexxelA said: Well, it's partly in frustration of my #1 player letting me down. Since the shoulder injury he's avg. 23 rush yards/game, compared to pre-injury, he has been a big step down to QB2 status. Look at his whole schedule and then look at the last two matchups. He’s probably had the toughest two weeks of the season. And then throw in the shoulder injury. He had a lot of cake matchups all year long. Now look at his future schedule. Things are lookin up. The only one questionable game is against the niners but he played them well week 1 when they were at their best. I’m not overly concerned with him finishing the season strong. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Deuce1042 126 Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 1 minute ago, StevenSC400 said: Look at his whole schedule and then look at the last two matchups. He’s probably had the toughest two weeks of the season. And then throw in the shoulder injury. He had a lot of cake matchups all year long. Now look at his future schedule. Things are lookin up. The only one questionable game is against the niners but he played them well week 1 when they were at their best. I’m not overly concerned with him finishing the season strong. I think they play the Rams again. Also the Eagles and Giants have legit defensive lines. He should still have some good performances though because he'll get opportunities with how bad those teams offenses are. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
brosephd 1,304 Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 when he was rushing 50+ yards a game you can rely on him for a minimum of 20 points. not sure if tape and schemes caught up to him like they did lamar Quote Link to post Share on other sites
StevenSC400 1,002 Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 5 minutes ago, Deuce1042 said: I think they play the Rams again. Also the Eagles and Giants have legit defensive lines. He should still have some good performances though because he'll get opportunities with how bad those teams offenses are. Week 17 doesn’t count. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Deuce1042 126 Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 Before the season I thought Kyler Murray would rush for 800-850 yards. It looked like he'd be on pace to surpass 1000 but I guess I wasn't far off. Rushing for 1000 yards from the QB position is hard man. It's really hard. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Deuce1042 126 Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 2 minutes ago, brosephd said: when he was rushing 50+ yards a game you can rely on him for a minimum of 20 points. not sure if tape and schemes caught up to him like they did lamar Teams have done a better job not over rushing and keeping him in the pocket and they're playing the zone read to force Kyler to give it. When he's kept the ball or tried to scramble for yardage he just hasn't had the space to really hurt teams with his legs. And he's not big enough or quite as elusive as a Lamar Jackson to break tackles and maneuver in heavy traffic. I think the shoulder has affected his deep ball but I'm not seeing how it's affected his running. That's mostly defense doing that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
StevenSC400 1,002 Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 Look at what the patriots did to Herbert today. Again these two teams he played back to back were the toughest all year. And he had them back to back with a shoulder injury. He should be much better moving forward. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AlexxelA 134 Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 1 hour ago, Chippa said: He’s not a qb 2 now lmao jeez shoulder injury, then 9, then 17 points = 13/game last 2 games, pre injury avg over 29 points/game, he has mostly stopped running which is a big part of why he has been so good this year, i see a correlation, but obviously hope he can get back to averaging 29 points for the playoffs Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chippa 1,340 Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 4 minutes ago, AlexxelA said: shoulder injury, then 9, then 17 points = 13/game last 2 games, pre injury avg over 29 points/game, he has mostly stopped running which is a big part of why he has been so good this year, i see a correlation, but obviously hope he can get back to averaging 29 points for the playoffs He’s had 1 bad game all year. Last week. Bum shoulder This week he’ll prob finish top 12 top 12 isn’t qb2 unless you play in a 6 team league Quote Link to post Share on other sites
StevenSC400 1,002 Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 18 minutes ago, AlexxelA said: shoulder injury, then 9, then 17 points = 13/game last 2 games, pre injury avg over 29 points/game, he has mostly stopped running which is a big part of why he has been so good this year, i see a correlation, but obviously hope he can get back to averaging 29 points for the playoffs You can’t just take a two week average and call him a qb2 lol. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cincythunder 53 Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 Funny how Mahomes just had a solid day (real life performance will skew people view on fantasy performance) and just only has 3 more points than Kyler. Still feeling confident in Kyler. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
konstao 234 Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 im a bit worried . Russel Wilson couldn't do anything against this Giants D last week... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
1972Miamidolphins 1,374 Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 (edited) The migit is getting found out, can onlybrun for so long, look at lamar Edited December 9, 2020 by 1972Miamidolphins 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jubanton 345 Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 benching for Herbert (cross fingers) Hard to trust in a difficult matchup Quote Link to post Share on other sites
beerfish 455 Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 1 hour ago, Jubanton said: benching for Herbert (cross fingers) Hard to trust in a difficult matchup Considering the same thing, but not sure if that's just overthinking things or a brilliant FF coaching move. Giants did not let Russ cook and I'm worried they will do the same to Kyler. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rasrar 255 Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 3 hours ago, 1972Miamidolphins said: The migit is getting found out, can onlybrun for so long, look at lamar Well Lamar had quite the game last night lol I'm concerned as well. But having him in a Superflex, I don't have any choice but to start him. Is the Giants D really that good? Last week's defensive performance seems really fluky. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
StevenSC400 1,002 Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 1 hour ago, beerfish said: Considering the same thing, but not sure if that's just overthinking things or a brilliant FF coaching move. Giants did not let Russ cook and I'm worried they will do the same to Kyler. Russ hasn’t been “cooking” for weeks now since he overcooked and let all those losses pile up. The Seahawks have since went back to a more balanced approach and Wilson seems to have lost a bit of confidence. You can bench Murray but I personally don’t see anyone worth starting to give me his floor and his upside unless you do have someone like Herbert laying around which most people don’t. And he laid a bigger egg vs the pats than Kyler did. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FavreCo 425 Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 5 hours ago, 1972Miamidolphins said: The migit is getting found out, can onlybrun for so long, look at lamar Exactly. The blueprint is out. Don't let him go to his right. He can't see over the linemen, push him to his left so he cant throw accurate passes. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Brettg57 726 Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 1 hour ago, rasrar said: Well Lamar had quite the game last night lol I'm concerned as well. But having him in a Superflex, I don't have any choice but to start him. Is the Giants D really that good? Last week's defensive performance seems really fluky. Giants have a underrated defense. Their Linebacker duo is good, Blake Martinez+Kyle Fackrell, Bradberry and Ryan in Secondary and Leonard Williams up front. Lots of good pieces there. Kyler worries me this week only cause I feel like He is still not over that shoulder injury suffered against the Seahawks. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rasrar 255 Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 3 hours ago, Brettg57 said: Giants have a underrated defense. Their Linebacker duo is good, Blake Martinez+Kyle Fackrell, Bradberry and Ryan in Secondary and Leonard Williams up front. Lots of good pieces there. Kyler worries me this week only cause I feel like He is still not over that shoulder injury suffered against the Seahawks. FWIW, he wasn't even on the injury report today. I do believe it has more to do with opposing defenses game-planning against limiting his rushing ability. I hope Kingsbury can counter that with more designed runs plays or taking advantage of spying somehow... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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