PisEdiRin 475 Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 On 1/16/2021 at 4:46 PM, Stonej14 said: Football is called “The ultimate team sport” for a reason it takes 22 players to win. If you judge how good a qb is solely on wins then guys like drew bledso , alex smith, and joe flacco should go down as all time greats since they have top 20 win percentages (in front of many hall of famers) but in fact we know they were mostly average with a couple good seasons but we’re on a lot of really good teams. flacco is awful but has this elite ravens defenses alex Smith is the epitome of a game manager but had great 49ers and chiefs defenses along with great run games. these guys have better win percentages that Troy aikmen, Russel Wilson, ken stabler, Steve young.. the list goes on. Watson is a top 5 QB on a bottom 5 team that shouldn’t have been competitive in 90% of their games and solely cuss of Watson’s never say die attitude and talent they won a few and were competitive in most. Don’t ever compare him to that bum trubisky if you wanna be taken Seriously tho. On 1/16/2021 at 6:06 PM, donslaughtonslaught said: We can’t be sure yet, because if they don’t advance. By your metrics the 4 conference semi-finalists ate all better. On 1/16/2021 at 4:09 PM, donslaughtonslaught said: Jared Goff’s trash game and Baker Mayfield: in the playoffs because their teams have good running games and olines and coaching and defenses or some combo of those. None of which the Texans had. And if winning playoff games is a barometer WATSON DID THAT LAST YEAR. Can’t say you aren’t an effective troll. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Stonej14 666 Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 32 minutes ago, PisEdiRin said: poor argument. Not worth a rebuke but I hope you have good fortunes ahead of you. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PisEdiRin 475 Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 Just now, Stonej14 said: poor argument. Not worth a rebuke but I hope you have good fortunes ahead of you. "Not worth a rebuke" You have no rebuke. Take the L and move on. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Stonej14 666 Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 1 minute ago, PisEdiRin said: "Not worth a rebuke" You have no rebuke. Take the L and move on. 👍🏿 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lolcopter 7,860 Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 (edited) Edited January 18 by lolcopter Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ryansm11 2,083 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 Didn’t know he has the best completion % in nfl history. What a stud. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Joe Mama 109 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 On 1/18/2021 at 1:50 PM, lolcopter said: Where are the Texans? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ajs723 3,325 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 36 minutes ago, Joe Mama said: Where are the Texans? It's a bet on where he gets traded. He can't get traded from the Texans to the Texans, lol. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ajs723 3,325 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 On 1/18/2021 at 7:48 AM, PisEdiRin said: "Not worth a rebuke" You have no rebuke. Take the L and move on. Do... do you know that Watson led the Texans to a division title one year ago? They nearly beat the Chiefs in the playoffs. How can you reconcile that with your thesis that "winning and losing in the NFL is solely based on the QB, and Watson isn't good enough to win"? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Joe Mama 109 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 28 minutes ago, ajs723 said: It's a bet on where he gets traded. He can't get traded from the Texans to the Texans, lol. Ah ok those are pretty good odds then for the house, he stays with Houston and everyone loses 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Boudewijn 4,456 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 On 1/18/2021 at 8:50 PM, lolcopter said: The Jets?? Come on man, don't make me sad. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ajs723 3,325 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 1 hour ago, Joe Mama said: Ah ok those are pretty good odds then for the house, he stays with Houston and everyone loses I'm not much of a gambler, but now that I look at it again, it says he must be traded for there to be action. So I think if he stays, everyone gets their money back. Basically it's a "if he gets traded, where do you think he'll go" bet. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jnormy 436 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 On 1/18/2021 at 1:50 PM, lolcopter said: I don’t get the Jets as the favorites at all. It’s been reported that Watson had issues with the Texans franchise culture when it comes to social justice matters and not initially interviewing Bieniemy — issues that allegedly go all the way to the top, to the owner. So given that, why would he waive his no-trade clause to join a franchise owned by Woody Johnson? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BMcP 8,281 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 5 minutes ago, jnormy said: I don’t get the Jets as the favorites at all. It’s been reported that Watson had issues with the Texans franchise culture when it comes to social justice matters and not initially interviewing Bieniemy — issues that allegedly go all the way to the top, to the owner. So given that, why would he waive his no-trade clause to join a franchise owned by Woody Johnson? They hired a person of color as HC? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SuperJoint 4,117 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 6 minutes ago, jnormy said: I don’t get the Jets as the favorites at all. It’s been reported that Watson had issues with the Texans franchise culture when it comes to social justice matters and not initially interviewing Bieniemy — issues that allegedly go all the way to the top, to the owner. So given that, why would he waive his no-trade clause to join a franchise owned by Woody Johnson? I agree - this could simply be because Jets fans are more likely to make these kinds of bets so they push a ridiculous number. Maybe Saleh is different but most of everything I've read indicates Darnold is going to at least get a shot in 2021. It does not make practical sense for the Jets to acquire Watson when they have in many ways a worse team than the Texans. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PizzaBeerFF 757 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 On 1/20/2021 at 10:08 PM, ajs723 said: It's a bet on where he gets traded. He can't get traded from the Texans to the Texans, lol. If OBrien was still there he would try and lose a few draft picks during the process. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SyNdicateZ 1,455 Posted January 22 Author Share Posted January 22 Watson spotted in Foxboro alert. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Boudewijn 4,456 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 51 minutes ago, SyNdicateZ said: Watson spotted in Foxboro alert. Yeah... That's Benjamin Watson 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Newtown 745 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 Apparently, the Jets are now Watson's 1st choice. https://www.miamiherald.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/armando-salguero/article248718210.html#storylink=mainstage_card Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BMcP 8,281 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 On 1/21/2021 at 9:58 PM, BMcP said: They hired a person of color as HC? The Jets are Deshaun Watson's preferred trade partner. The rightfully disgruntled franchise QB prefers the Jets "because they hired Robert Saleh to be their coach and Watson values Saleh so much he wanted the Texans to interview him for their vacant head coach job," according to the Miami Herald's Armando Salguero. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jnormy 436 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 1 hour ago, BMcP said: On 1/21/2021 at 9:58 PM, BMcP said: They hired a person of color as HC? The Jets are Deshaun Watson's preferred trade partner. The rightfully disgruntled franchise QB prefers the Jets "because they hired Robert Saleh to be their coach and Watson values Saleh so much he wanted the Texans to interview him for their vacant head coach job," according to the Miami Herald's Armando Salguero. Pretty sure Flores is still a HC of color, of a 10-6 team with a great culture. Somebody better check Watson for a concussion or something. He wants to leave the mess of a franchise that is the Texans, and his preferred team to be traded to is... the Jets????? LMAO, good luck with that one DeShaun. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Boudewijn 4,456 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 (edited) 8 minutes ago, jnormy said: He wants to leave the mess of a franchise that is the Texans, and his preferred team to be traded to is... the Jets????? LMAO, good luck with that one DeShaun. Word on the street is he wants to work with Robert Saleh (who is pretty universally respected). Edited January 24 by Boudewijn Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BMcP 8,281 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 13 minutes ago, jnormy said: Pretty sure Flores is still a HC of color, of a 10-6 team with a great culture. Somebody better check Watson for a concussion or something. He wants to leave the mess of a franchise that is the Texans, and his preferred team to be traded to is... the Jets????? LMAO, good luck with that one DeShaun. Yes - of a 10-6 team who just drafted their “QB of the future” and cost themselves a playoff berth due to their blind trust in him. Can’t imagine how that would appeal to Deshaun. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jnormy 436 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 (edited) 44 minutes ago, BMcP said: Yes - of a 10-6 team who just drafted their “QB of the future” and cost themselves a playoff berth due to their blind trust in him. Can’t imagine how that would appeal to Deshaun. In year 2 of a very successful rebuild. And if Watson knows anything at all about football history and the typical development of most rookie QBs, that wouldn’t bother him at all. Pretty sure the Bills are pretty happy right now that they kept their “blind trust” in Josh Allen after his (much worse than Tua’s) rookie year. Look, if Watson likes Saleh better, so be it. As a NYer, I’ve seen firsthand the utter despair Jets fans express year after year. If that what DeShaun wants to be a part of, have at it, and good luck. Edited January 24 by jnormy Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BMcP 8,281 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 28 minutes ago, jnormy said: In year 2 of a very successful rebuild. And if Watson knows anything at all about football history and the typical development of most rookie QBs, that wouldn’t bother him at all. Pretty sure the Bills are pretty happy right now that they kept their “blind trust” in Josh Allen after his (much worse than Tua’s) rookie year. Look, if Watson likes Saleh better, so be it. As a NYer, I’ve seen firsthand the utter despair Jets fans express year after year. If that what DeShaun wants to be a part of, have at it, and good luck. I’m not sure that you understood my point - just like the Bills with Allen, the Dolphins seem content to stick with Tua as he develops over the next few years. They don’t feel any need to bring in a vet to replace him. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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