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15 minutes ago, devilfish said:

Why should you pick him over Zeke?

 

yeah ... as much as i love this hand picked (by 'Homie hisself) KoolAid ingenue, Zeke is the dividing line - after the big three, though, i wouldn't knock a mutha for partying on with pocket Jamal ūü§∑‚Äć‚ôāÔłŹ¬†

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1 hour ago, joshua18 said:


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But seriously, I was thinking about it as well...

 

Zeke could have 20 TDs this year. People think they'll pass so much it lowers his value without ever considering it opens everything up even more and increases his value.

Williams may be the goal line back. CEH may be in a 60/40 split.

Zeke IS the goal line back and is in a 95/5 split.

Also, these offenses might not be that far from each other.

 Don't get cute. You hit the top three safe RB bell cows jackpot.  

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4 minutes ago, this guy right here said:

 

Zeke could have 20 TDs this year. People think they'll pass so much it lowers his value without ever considering it opens everything up even more and increases his value.

Williams may be the goal line back. CEH may be in a 60/40 split.

Zeke IS the goal line back and is in a 95/5 split.

Also, these offenses might not be that far from each other.

 Don't get cute. You hit the top three safe RB bell cows jackpot.  


These offenses are light years away from each other. 

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45 minutes ago, Strikeforce316 said:


These offenses are light years away from each other. 

I would say that’s a stretch. Dak threw for 4900 yards last season and had two 1000 yard receivers. Now they’ve added an elite WR prospect to the mix in Lamb. Zeke is a top 5 running back in the league. I would say the only non-QB advantage KC has over Dallas is at TE, and Jarwin could surprise this year. 

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48 minutes ago, Strikeforce316 said:


These offenses are light years away from each other. 

Player for player wise they aren't light years a part. Hate to say it but Dak probably gonna win the MVP this year.

Coaching staff wise possibly. 

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2 minutes ago, Eaglesflyhigh11 said:

Player for player wise they aren't light years a part. Hate to say it but Dak probably gonna win the MVP this year.

Coaching staff wise possibly. 


I should’ve clarified my statement better. I meant coaching staff and schemes. Personal, they are getting close. 

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as to kc vs dal. i think they are pretty far apart offensively. mahomes is so much better than dak. rbs dont really matter in kc off or the nfl.  kelce and hill>>gallup cooper ceedee 

sure dallas has good weapons but no where near the talent of kc. give me mahomes and his wr/te advantage over dal and zeke advantage.

plus the coach advantage

 

 

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1 hour ago, this guy right here said:

 

Zeke could have 20 TDs this year. People think they'll pass so much it lowers his value without ever considering it opens everything up even more and increases his value.

Williams may be the goal line back. CEH may be in a 60/40 split.

Zeke IS the goal line back and is in a 95/5 split.

Also, these offenses might not be that far from each other.

 Don't get cute. You hit the top three safe RB bell cows jackpot.  

 

I agree. There's not much argument for CEH over Zeke.

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4 minutes ago, colepenhagen said:

as to kc vs dal. i think they are pretty far apart offensively. mahomes is so much better than dak. rbs dont really matter in kc off or the nfl.  kelce and hill>>gallup cooper ceedee 

sure dallas has good weapons but no where near the talent of kc. give me mahomes and his wr/te advantage over dal and zeke advantage.

plus the coach advantage

 

 

 

Dallas has an incredible offensive line.  That's the equalizer.

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Just now, kp96 said:

 

Dallas has an incredible offensive line.  That's the equalizer.

and mahomes escape ability and arm strength make that o line unnecessary. ha

either way give me mahomes is so much better than dak. we will find out and i like/ have owned dak alot in years prior to this one.

 

 

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Just now, pastorofmuppets2 said:

 

still?

i know they took some hits, so it's not the same line it was a couple years ago.

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Still ranked top 3 in the articles I've read.  Who knows how it performs this year but honestly, Dak and co (with exception of Zeke) are not that talented.  You put them behind an average line and I don't think they produce those numbers.  Mahomes and those guys are doing it with an average OL.

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Got him at 12th overall in superflex 6 pt passing TD league.

 

I cringed a little bit but didn't like my QB options.  Ultimately it was between him and Jacobs (and could have ended up with both at the turn) but couldn't pass up the opportunity with that offense.

 

With all that said....let's ride.

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1 hour ago, Strikeforce316 said:


These offenses are light years away from each other. 

 

Dal - 1st total yrds. 6th total points

KC - 6th total yrds. 1st total points

I know Mahomes missed two games but LIGHT YEARS away? Statistical fact >>>>Your beliefs.

DAL may have the easiest schedule of any team.

Zeke is the UNDENIABLE bell cow on a top 5 offense. He may stand alone in that regard.

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Remember this is CEH's page. joshua18 was considering him at pick 3. My argument for Zeke was made. 

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17 minutes ago, kp96 said:

 

Still ranked top 3 in the articles I've read.  Who knows how it performs this year but honestly, Dak and co (with exception of Zeke) are not that talented.  You put them behind an average line and I don't think they produce those numbers.  Mahomes and those guys are doing it with an average OL.

 

Chiefs O-line is probably in the 8-15 range. I think youre underselling them a bit.

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29 minutes ago, colepenhagen said:

as to kc vs dal. i think they are pretty far apart offensively.

 

Dal - 1st total yrds. 6th total points

KC - 6th total yrds. 1st total points

They are not far enough apart to justify taking CEH at 3 over Zeke. That was the point. 

2 hours ago, this guy right here said:

Also, these offenses might not be that far from each other.

 

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Dal - 1st total yrds. 6th total points

KC - 6th total yrds. 1st total points

They are not far enough apart to justify taking CEH at 3 over Zeke. That was the point. 

 

and kc avg over 35 pts in 2018 with healthy mahomes vs dal 21.2.

so kc got celing and floor. dal only avg 27 pts with all that yardage showing dak<<<<mahomes and kc off. is much better

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9 minutes ago, colepenhagen said:

and kc avg over 35 pts in 2018 with healthy mahomes vs dal 21.2.

so kc got celing and floor. dal only avg 27 pts with all that yardage showing dak<<<<mahomes and kc off. is much better

 

Then you should take CEH at three....which was the argument. Not that DAL offense was the same as KC

 

2 hours ago, this guy right here said:

Also, these offenses might not be that far from each other.

 

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And they DEFINITELY are not far enough away from each other for CEH to go 3rd over Zeke.

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Don't want to get ahead of ourselves, but is this guy the best RB keeper since Saquon?  Or even better?  Andy Reid says he's better than Brian Westbrook. 

Okay...let's get ahead of ourselves for a second.  Here's to CEH landing on this list:

 

1. LaDanian Tomlinson, San Diego Chargers (2006) - 481.1 points

Tomlinson is one of just three players to ever average more than 30 fantasy points per game throughout an entire NFL season. He is the only player in history to accomplish this feat while playing all 16 games. LT turned his 348 carries into 1,815 rushing yards and a whopping 28 touchdowns. Not only that, but he also caught 56 passes for an additional 508 yards and three touchdowns. Plus, he completed 2-of-3 pass attempts, each conversion resulting in yet another touchdown. All in all, the man was responsible for 33 touchdowns in 2006. I highly doubt that the NFL will ever again see another 16-week performance like that. Tomlinson was like a video game cheat code, and likely led his fantasy owners to a championship.

2. Christian McCaffrey, Carolina Panthers (2019) - 471.2 points

McCaffrey did wonders for the Panthers last season, producing more than 1,000 rushing yards and 1,000 receiving yards. CMC became the third player in NFL history to accomplish that feat, and the first since Marshall Faulk. He was fewer than 10 fantasy points away from becoming the highest-scoring producer in fantasy football history, despite the fact that he scored 14 fewer touchdowns than Tomlinson. Not to mention, CMC played most of the season with raw quarterback Kyle Allen. McCaffrey is a once-in-a-generation talent. He is the clear-cut top pick in all fantasy formats in 2020.

3. Marshall Faulk, St. Louis Rams (2000) - 459.9 points

Had Faulk played all 16 games in 2000, he would probably be at the top of this list. After playing just 14 games, the stud running back produced a ridiculous 1,359 rushing yards on 253 carries, plus an additional 830 receiving yards on 81 receptions and 26 total touchdowns. Faulk averaged more PPR fantasy points per game (32.85) than even Tomlinson. Not to mention, he did what every head coach loves; he didn’t lose one fumble all season long. Fantasy owners love consistency and there is nothing more frustrating than your first-round pick being unable to suit up every week of the season. Still, when all was said and done, I highly doubt Faulk’s owners were complaining very much.

4. Priest Holmes, Kansas City Chiefs (2002) - 440.7 points

Holmes arguably has two of the top 10 seasons of all time, but for the sake of this article, we had to choose one season per player. Although he secured more fantasy points in 2003, it was his 2002 campaign that was truly mind boggling. Outside of Faulk, Holmes was the only other player to average more fantasy points per game than Tomlinson’s historic 2006 season. The 29-year-old produced 1,615 yards on 313 carries and 21 rushing touchdowns. Holmes was also a weapon in the passing game, hauling in 70 passes for 672 yards and an additional three touchdowns. Despite missing two games, I don’t think fantasy owners were complaining about his 31.48 fantasy points per game. Simply a historic season.

5. O.J. Simpson, Buffalo Bills (1975) - 383.3 points

The Juice trucked for 1,817 rushing yards and 16 touchdowns on 329 carries in just 14 games. He averaged more than a rushing touchdown per game in 1975. He also chipped in with 28 receptions for 426 yards and seven more scores. It was a historic season for Simpson.

6. Emmitt Smith, Dallas Cowboys (1995) - 414.4 points

The Dallas Cowboys may have had Troy Aikman and Michael Irvin, but the offense ran through Emmitt Smith. The legendary three-time Super Bowl winner and Hall of Famer produced his best season in 1995. Smith carried the ball 377 times for 1,773 yards and 25 touchdowns. He also added 62 receptions for 375 receiving yards to eclipse 2,000 overall yards. Smith averaged more than 100 rushing yards and 1.5 touchdowns per game. He finished the season with 25.93 fantasy points per outing.

7. Steven Jackson, St. Louis Rams (2006) - 415.4 points

Many fantasy football players have almost forgotten about Steven Jackson’s best playing days (I almost did!). Once he left the Rams, he slowed down considerably. His final three seasons in the NFL (two with the Falcons and one with the Patriots) were very underwhelming. However, Jackson was an absolute stud in his hay day. In his third NFL season, Jackson rushed for 1,528 yards and 13 touchdowns on 346 carries. Perhaps just as impressive as his running ability was his pass-catching prowess out of the backfield. He hauled in 90 receptions for 806 additional yards and three more touchdowns.

Honorable Mentions: Todd Gurley (2017), Jamaal Charles (2013)

 

 

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13 minutes ago, MBarbarian said:

Don't want to get ahead of ourselves, but is this guy the best RB keeper since Saquon?  Or even better?  Andy Reid says he's better than Brian Westbrook. 

Okay...let's get ahead of ourselves for a second.  Here's to CEH landing on this list:

 

1. LaDanian Tomlinson, San Diego Chargers (2006) - 481.1 points

Tomlinson is one of just three players to ever average more than 30 fantasy points per game throughout an entire NFL season. He is the only player in history to accomplish this feat while playing all 16 games. LT turned his 348 carries into 1,815 rushing yards and a whopping 28 touchdowns. Not only that, but he also caught 56 passes for an additional 508 yards and three touchdowns. Plus, he completed 2-of-3 pass attempts, each conversion resulting in yet another touchdown. All in all, the man was responsible for 33 touchdowns in 2006. I highly doubt that the NFL will ever again see another 16-week performance like that. Tomlinson was like a video game cheat code, and likely led his fantasy owners to a championship.

2. Christian McCaffrey, Carolina Panthers (2019) - 471.2 points

McCaffrey did wonders for the Panthers last season, producing more than 1,000 rushing yards and 1,000 receiving yards. CMC became the third player in NFL history to accomplish that feat, and the first since Marshall Faulk. He was fewer than 10 fantasy points away from becoming the highest-scoring producer in fantasy football history, despite the fact that he scored 14 fewer touchdowns than Tomlinson. Not to mention, CMC played most of the season with raw quarterback Kyle Allen. McCaffrey is a once-in-a-generation talent. He is the clear-cut top pick in all fantasy formats in 2020.

3. Marshall Faulk, St. Louis Rams (2000) - 459.9 points

Had Faulk played all 16 games in 2000, he would probably be at the top of this list. After playing just 14 games, the stud running back produced a ridiculous 1,359 rushing yards on 253 carries, plus an additional 830 receiving yards on 81 receptions and 26 total touchdowns. Faulk averaged more PPR fantasy points per game (32.85) than even Tomlinson. Not to mention, he did what every head coach loves; he didn’t lose one fumble all season long. Fantasy owners love consistency and there is nothing more frustrating than your first-round pick being unable to suit up every week of the season. Still, when all was said and done, I highly doubt Faulk’s owners were complaining very much.

4. Priest Holmes, Kansas City Chiefs (2002) - 440.7 points

Holmes arguably has two of the top 10 seasons of all time, but for the sake of this article, we had to choose one season per player. Although he secured more fantasy points in 2003, it was his 2002 campaign that was truly mind boggling. Outside of Faulk, Holmes was the only other player to average more fantasy points per game than Tomlinson’s historic 2006 season. The 29-year-old produced 1,615 yards on 313 carries and 21 rushing touchdowns. Holmes was also a weapon in the passing game, hauling in 70 passes for 672 yards and an additional three touchdowns. Despite missing two games, I don’t think fantasy owners were complaining about his 31.48 fantasy points per game. Simply a historic season.

5. O.J. Simpson, Buffalo Bills (1975) - 383.3 points

The Juice trucked for 1,817 rushing yards and 16 touchdowns on 329 carries in just 14 games. He averaged more than a rushing touchdown per game in 1975. He also chipped in with 28 receptions for 426 yards and seven more scores. It was a historic season for Simpson.

6. Emmitt Smith, Dallas Cowboys (1995) - 414.4 points

The Dallas Cowboys may have had Troy Aikman and Michael Irvin, but the offense ran through Emmitt Smith. The legendary three-time Super Bowl winner and Hall of Famer produced his best season in 1995. Smith carried the ball 377 times for 1,773 yards and 25 touchdowns. He also added 62 receptions for 375 receiving yards to eclipse 2,000 overall yards. Smith averaged more than 100 rushing yards and 1.5 touchdowns per game. He finished the season with 25.93 fantasy points per outing.

7. Steven Jackson, St. Louis Rams (2006) - 415.4 points

Many fantasy football players have almost forgotten about Steven Jackson’s best playing days (I almost did!). Once he left the Rams, he slowed down considerably. His final three seasons in the NFL (two with the Falcons and one with the Patriots) were very underwhelming. However, Jackson was an absolute stud in his hay day. In his third NFL season, Jackson rushed for 1,528 yards and 13 touchdowns on 346 carries. Perhaps just as impressive as his running ability was his pass-catching prowess out of the backfield. He hauled in 90 receptions for 806 additional yards and three more touchdowns.

Honorable Mentions: Todd Gurley (2017), Jamaal Charles (2013)

 

 

Comparing a guy who hasn't played 1 NFL game in his career to a list of the best fantasy RB seasons in history is silly. 

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