Members_Only_76 7,252 Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 4 minutes ago, Magoo said: Yes 100%. Jefferson may already be one the of the best receivers in the league. So yea I trust any QB to start targeting the best of the best. And as terrible as Cousins is at least he isn't Mayfield bad. So he's got that going for him. Which is nice. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Magoo 1,519 Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 7 minutes ago, Members_Only_76 said: Respect for catching it. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CletisVanDamme 334 Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 (edited) It is so hard to find a set and forget WR2 this early in the season but I think we've finally arrived on one. That TD where he was being tackled at the gl, barrell rolled over the defender, and had the presence of mind and effort to stick the ball out backwards over the plane was so impressive. Looked like a seasoned veteran on that play. Guy is born playmaker and so much fun to watch. Edited October 20, 2020 by CletisVanDamme Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dorwell 418 Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 Two things written here stand out for me: who are you willing to trade for him? McLaurin, Chark, Boyd or DJ Moore? These are more or less WR2 on the season. But I wouldn't trade him for any of these guys tbh. So in my mind he is a WR2 with tremendous upside every week. For most of us he is probably the WR3 on your team maybe even WR4 so you can fill your flex spot with a solid floor and a boom for ceiling. That is how you win weeks. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Benjamin1984 563 Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 5 hours ago, dorwell said: Two things written here stand out for me: who are you willing to trade for him? McLaurin, Chark, Boyd or DJ Moore? These are more or less WR2 on the season. But I wouldn't trade him for any of these guys tbh. So in my mind he is a WR2 with tremendous upside every week. For most of us he is probably the WR3 on your team maybe even WR4 so you can fill your flex spot with a solid floor and a boom for ceiling. That is how you win weeks. I agree with everything you said here but I might take McLaurin. McLaurin and Jefferson are for sure the 2 WRs I have the most shares of so I don't have to choose here lol. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
battle2heaven 813 Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 For those that would trade him, or even for those that are thinking about trading him, what equal type of RB would you take/give for JJ? What is his comparable RB value? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
beotos 55 Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 10 minutes ago, battle2heaven said: For those that would trade him, or even for those that are thinking about trading him, what equal type of RB would you take/give for JJ? What is his comparable RB value? RB1 to borderline RB1 pretty much Quote Link to post Share on other sites
battle2heaven 813 Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 Just now, beotos said: RB1 to borderline RB1 pretty much I think in a vacuum this is accurate. But taking into the account the RB situation this year, no one is giving up their borderline RB1 for Justin Jefferson. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
EaglesRocker97 210 Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 9 minutes ago, beotos said: RB1 to borderline RB1 pretty much Borderline at best until his role in KC becomes clearer. I think RB2 is more fair from a trade perspective, and even that is based mostly on projection. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
beotos 55 Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 8 minutes ago, battle2heaven said: I think in a vacuum this is accurate. But taking into the account the RB situation this year, no one is giving up their borderline RB1 for Justin Jefferson. There's 18-20 RBs I would trade him for right now in a situation where I am desperate for RB and stacked at WR Quote Link to post Share on other sites
D-dub 3 Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 On 10/20/2020 at 1:05 PM, Magoo said: Trap games and duds always always happen. Dunbar played him very well. Kirk got skittish after the pick and locked in on Thielen. You can't just say that to presume he can't be a WR1. Look at Thielen in this year. Crazy TD pace propping up value. That definitely will regress. Three of the six games he had only 3 catches. Two of them only 5 targets. He very nearly could have had 3 duds especially last week (which was also an obvious trap game with Julio returning) Sure you could say the other games he went bananas and proved his WR1 upside but Jefferson very clearly has that single game upside (maybe higher too). The only takeaway about Jefferson's low floor is that his upside is reliant on great matchups (Same for everyone). But to be clear the Seattle matchup was anything but cake because Dunbar was back. It's fine if hack analysts keep looking at rankings without regard to injured players returning but that doesn't mean we need to. The other thing to keep in mind is that the Seattle game was played in the rain. Until the final game-winning drive, even likely MVP favorite (so far) Russell Wilson had only thrown for 140 yards. Tough to throw and catch that night. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Magoo 1,519 Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 11 minutes ago, D-dub said: The other thing to keep in mind is that the Seattle game was played in the rain. Until the final game-winning drive, even likely MVP favorite (so far) Russell Wilson had only thrown for 140 yards. Tough to throw and catch that night. Very good point. Forgot about that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Benjamin1984 563 Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 4 minutes ago, D-dub said: The other thing to keep in mind is that the Seattle game was played in the rain. Until the final game-winning drive, even likely MVP favorite (so far) Russell Wilson had only thrown for 140 yards. Tough to throw and catch that night. Yeah he's locked and loaded right now. He's a WR3/flex for a ton of people like me based on where he was being drafted. He occupies what would be a lower leverage play in lineups. To have a WR3/flex have the potential to easily be your best player any given week is a pretty nice thing to have lol. It's like DJax on steroids right now. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
battle2heaven 813 Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 Just FYI Vikings just traded Yannick away. They are going full rebuild and that defense just got worst.... 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gotamancrushontombrady 47 Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 2 minutes ago, battle2heaven said: Just FYI Vikings just traded Yannick away. They are going full rebuild and that defense just got worst.... My thoughts exactly, a worse DST only helps our guy with increasingly negative game scripts. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
harck 478 Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 (edited) My only worry is Thielen is next on the trade block and our boy draws the best CBs and/or double coverage every week. Edited October 22, 2020 by harck Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Phatpanda 14 Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 1 hour ago, gotamancrushontombrady said: My thoughts exactly, a worse DST only helps our guy with increasingly negative game scripts. George Iloka done for the year as well. If you were not on board before, I don’t know what you are waiting for. The Viking are clearly packing it up for the season. Every reason to get the young stud involved more and more. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gmoneypm 62 Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 1. A Vikings defense that wasn't very good to begin with is falling part even more 2. Green Bay spanked them week 1 and should have no problem doing so again 3. Garbage time Another blowup spot again for him this week? He's coming in around number 15ish on "expert" rankings this week. It's the highest I've ever seen him. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
yanksman 3,781 Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 13 minutes ago, gmoneypm said: 1. A Vikings defense that wasn't very good to begin with is falling part even more 2. Green Bay spanked them week 1 and should have no problem doing so again 3. Garbage time Another blowup spot again for him this week? He's coming in around number 15ish on "expert" rankings this week. It's the highest I've ever seen him. Who does Jaire Alexander cover? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gmoneypm 62 Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 10 minutes ago, yanksman said: Who does Jaire Alexander cover? Good question. I know that Alexander covered Fuller this past weekend and he plays on the outside, where Jefferson has primarily played as of late. I'm not sure if he shadows or covers the slot where Thielen should dominate. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
harck 478 Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 (edited) Last time Alexander Jaire shadowed Thielen, but who knows if this time he shifts to Jefferson. Edited October 27, 2020 by harck Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TuesdaymorningQB 247 Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 Anyone concerned about how the weather will affect Cousins getting the ball to Jefferson? 19 to 25 mph sustained winds with gusts to 40 is the forecast. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rizon 332 Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 9 minutes ago, TuesdaymorningQB said: Anyone concerned about how the weather will affect Cousins getting the ball to Jefferson? 19 to 25 mph sustained winds with gusts to 40 is the forecast. Yeah that is concerning right now. We will have to wait until Sunday morning and see what’s up. Carolina Atlanta was supposed to have sustained winds that dissipated somewhat before game time Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jpark211 275 Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 49 minutes ago, rizon said: Yeah that is concerning right now. We will have to wait until Sunday morning and see what’s up. Carolina Atlanta was supposed to have sustained winds that dissipated somewhat before game time But we all know how that turned out... what was supposed to be a shoot out turned into a hot mess... perhaps it was more of the rain? but the game was god awful Quote Link to post Share on other sites
harck 478 Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 I really want to play him for his boom potential (dude's ceiling is unreal), but the winds + rain + GB secondary make it tough for me. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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