FouLLine 2,849 Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 Justin Jefferson is an absolute stud. He's locked in my lineup the rest of the season. I hope he beats out his LSU teammate Burrow for offensive rookie of the year. Link to post Share on other sites
WVFalcon 68 Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 On 11/16/2020 at 8:50 PM, Vendetta said: Some crazies in shallow leagues.I think his output may be starting to get more predictable: play him against teams that can stop the run and/or against teams that can run up the score. Based on this the next 3 matchups, which include games vs. DAL and JAX, look nice on paper but are actually a bit risky - MIN can potentially just go run-heavy with Cook; CAR could go either way, as they’re really bad vs. the run, but they can put up points (though they may struggle to if they don’t have Teddy and/or CMC). I think he’s still a start ROS depending on roster and league settings, but expectations may need to be tempered slightly. Conversely his playoff schedule, which looks undesirable on paper with matchups vs. TB and CHI, may actually be to Jefferson’s benefit because both teams are strong vs. the run and TB has the bonus of an explosive offense. Week 16 vs. NO could also be nice for the same reasons TB could be. That's an excellent point. He's the only player I've ever had where I feel more confident starting against a good defense than a bad one. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
hard1 2,468 Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites
ZappB 656 Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 (edited) So are we expecting another Dalvin Cook show this week? I'm thinking of using Jefferson over Robby Anderson for a 0.5 PPR since I'm wary of the QB situation for Anderson. Edited November 21, 2020 by ZappB Link to post Share on other sites
hard1 2,468 Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 11 minutes ago, ZappB said: So are we expecting another Dalvin Cook show this week? I'm thinking of using Jefferson over Robby Anderson for a 0.5 PPR since I'm wary of the QB situation for Anderson. Good problem to have 1 Link to post Share on other sites
FreakFries 1,399 Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 58 minutes ago, hard1 said: I’m sending this to every Eagles fan I know! 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites
SkinsChargersFan 3,422 Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 On 11/18/2020 at 10:57 AM, FouLLine said: Justin Jefferson is an absolute stud. He's locked in my lineup the rest of the season. I hope he beats out his LSU teammate Burrow for offensive rookie of the year. Justin Herbert? Link to post Share on other sites
hard1 2,468 Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, SkinsChargersFan said: Justin Herbert? Tough race this year. James robinson chase claypool too Edited November 21, 2020 by hard1 Link to post Share on other sites
SkinsChargersFan 3,422 Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 1 minute ago, hard1 said: Tough race this year. James robinson too Herbert is the betting favorite right now, followed by Burrow. Unfortunately, Robinson doesn’t get enough respect... he’s 6th. Jefferson is 4th behind Tua. (Claypool is 5th) 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites
hard1 2,468 Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 Always a qb 1 Link to post Share on other sites
FreakFries 1,399 Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 2 hours ago, SkinsChargersFan said: Herbert is the betting favorite right now, followed by Burrow. Unfortunately, Robinson doesn’t get enough respect... he’s 6th. Jefferson is 4th behind Tua. (Claypool is 5th) Tua??? He’s played, what?, 3 games? 1 Link to post Share on other sites
kdko 1,191 Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 Jefferson's on track to beating Moss' 100 yard game rookie record. Think it's his to lose right now. Link to post Share on other sites
hard1 2,468 Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 Claypool may end up with a td a game on a playoff team Link to post Share on other sites
kdko 1,191 Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 16 minutes ago, hard1 said: Claypool may end up with a td a game on a playoff team Don't think he's gonna come close to sniffing ROTY. Link to post Share on other sites
jharv2k1 27 Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 3 hours ago, SkinsChargersFan said: Herbert is the betting favorite right now, followed by Burrow. Unfortunately, Robinson doesn’t get enough respect... he’s 6th. Jefferson is 4th behind Tua. (Claypool is 5th) Ok so I’m not understanding why anybody would have Burrow over Herbert, Robinson or Even Jefferson.... 🤔🤔 it seems like Herbert would be a easy choice for that. I’m not even gonna entertain the fact TUA is even in the convo..... Link to post Share on other sites
yossarian 3,524 Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 4 hours ago, ZappB said: So are we expecting another Dalvin Cook show this week? I'm thinking of using Jefferson over Robby Anderson for a 0.5 PPR since I'm wary of the QB situation for Anderson. I dunno. The good matchup is a double-edged sword--the should be able to score easily, but they'll probably score easily using the run meaning they don't NEED to use the pass. Maybe that means Jefferson gets his, maybe that means Cook runs for another 200 and the passing game is mediocre? I'm a Cook owner so I've loved his usage but at the same time I can't imagine they'd want to keep his workload that heavy for the rest of the season if they don't need to. Not sure if that translates to more touches for Mattison or a little bit more action in the run game though. or maybe they just keeping giving Cook 30+ touches a game until the wheels fall off. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
hard1 2,468 Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 I think I've started andre johnson Steve Smith aj green larry Fitzgerald Megatron marvin Harrison Reggie Wayne all in stud years only to get a clunker every once in awhile.. any given Sunday they can all do what they do or don't. Link to post Share on other sites
hard1 2,468 Posted November 22, 2020 Share Posted November 22, 2020 Need a monster game Link to post Share on other sites
harck 478 Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 (edited) Was Thielen city this week, not sure if Jefferson drew the safety eye or not. Regardless, happy that long bomb towards the end salvaged the day. He had a really uncharacteristic drop on the last drive that helped ice the game for Dallas. Unfortunate. Edited November 23, 2020 by harck Link to post Share on other sites
hard1 2,468 Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 I'll take what he gave though id liked it bigger Link to post Share on other sites
rabaak 381 Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 Bad drop at the end of the game on a crossing route probably cost the vikings a chance to get at least a field goal to tie the game. Nobody around him. Don't know how far he could have gone if he caught it. First time I seen him drop a catchable ball. He was looking where he was going to run before he secured the ball. So he should have had a bigger game than he had if he had caught that one and/if the game would have gone to overtime. He made some nice catches today though. Sure takes the sting out of trading Diggs to Buffalo. Looks like with how the Vikings play defense, the offense will have to carry the team and Jefferson should be a big part of the offense. Link to post Share on other sites
EaglesRocker97 211 Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 (edited) It nearly turned into the kind of fantasy trap game that some of us worried about. I kept him on my bench in favor of Woods for basically these reasons. The TD instills a little more confidence in him as a weekly starter to the extent that the TD upside seems legitimate his statline shows that he can produce yardage efficiently with limited opportunities. So, on the one hand, it gives you the sense that Jefferson is not a really aggressive gamble. One other hand, the lack of targets and receptions gives credence to the sense that he will be TD-dependent in matchups that favor the running game and easy conversions. On top of it all, it seems to me that Thielen remains Cousins' most trusted and looked-for receiver when they need to make a play. There's understandably chemistry and a level of trust between them that has developed over the years, and it's unlikely to fade even with Jefferson breaking out. Most will be forced to start him out of necessity, but if you have a luxury at the position and need to maximize your WR production for the most important games of the fantasy season, it'd be wise to take a measured approach that considers the situational factors. Ultimately, there's no reason to believe that Jefferson won't ultimately be a superstar for the Vikings' and a future league winner in this realm, but it might take a year or two until he gains experience and the team dynamics shift back more in favor of the downfield passing game. As a rookie, I think his floor is low enough that you do have to worry about starting him during critical weeks of the fantasy season when the matchup is less and the opposing defense is weak enough up front to make the passing game expendable. We're probably a year or two away from drafting him as an elite WR1, but that doesn't mean he can't be key piece on a winning team right now. It'll probably be better for your overall production and less frustrating as a manager if you view him as a chess piece right now instead of assuming that he's the ultimate weapon. But he certainly figures to become the latter in due time. To that end, the next two weeks seem a bit dicey, but weeks 14-16 seem like prime matchups at just the right time. Edited November 23, 2020 by EaglesRocker97 1 Link to post Share on other sites
dorwell 418 Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 Hopefully defenses will now focus more on Thielen. But the problem is the red zone. Seems like Kirk not trusting him there. Plus you have very good competition for rz targets in Thielen or Irv Smith when the defense stack the box against Cooks. Link to post Share on other sites
MJJ28 1,133 Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 3 hours ago, EaglesRocker97 said: It nearly turned into the kind of fantasy trap game that some of us worried about. I kept him on my bench in favor of Woods for basically these reasons. The TD instills a little more confidence in him as a weekly starter to the extent that the TD upside seems legitimate his statline shows that he can produce yardage efficiently with limited opportunities. So, on the one hand, it gives you the sense that Jefferson is not a really aggressive gamble. One other hand, the lack of targets and receptions gives credence to the sense that he will be TD-dependent in matchups that favor the running game and easy conversions. On top of it all, it seems to me that Thielen remains Cousins' most trusted and looked-for receiver when they need to make a play. There's understandably chemistry and a level of trust between them that has developed over the years, and it's unlikely to fade even with Jefferson breaking out. Most will be forced to start him out of necessity, but if you have a luxury at the position and need to maximize your WR production for the most important games of the fantasy season, it'd be wise to take a measured approach that considers the situational factors. Ultimately, there's no reason to believe that Jefferson won't ultimately be a superstar for the Vikings' and a future league winner in this realm, but it might take a year or two until he gains experience and the team dynamics shift back more in favor of the downfield passing game. As a rookie, I think his floor is low enough that you do have to worry about starting him during critical weeks of the fantasy season when the matchup is less and the opposing defense is weak enough up front to make the passing game expendable. We're probably a year or two away from drafting him as an elite WR1, but that doesn't mean he can't be key piece on a winning team right now. It'll probably be better for your overall production and less frustrating as a manager if you view him as a chess piece right now instead of assuming that he's the ultimate weapon. But he certainly figures to become the latter in due time. To that end, the next two weeks seem a bit dicey, but weeks 14-16 seem like prime matchups at just the right time. I think you’re overthinking it. He’s a fantasy WR1 this year, right now. He’s a weekly must start. Start your studs. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites
MadMaxMariota 178 Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 5 hours ago, hard1 said: I'll take what he gave though id liked it bigger That's what she said! Jokes aside, this dude has been awesome. Best waiver wire pickup of the season imo. 4 Link to post Share on other sites
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