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This guy a football player or a porn star?

Wilson is captain positivity. He could have his dog murdered and say “the killer did a great job and cleaned up the scene nicely.”

1 hour ago, Eaglesflyhigh11 said:

What's Russ gonna say he sucks? I'm hopefully too but I wouldn't take much from that.


Wilson is captain positivity. He could have his dog murdered and say “the killer did a great job and cleaned up the scene nicely.”

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1 hour ago, rylaughlin said:

'Detailed' , 'on his stuff' , 'knew every detail'; maybe Russ is optimistic but his choice of words suggests he trusts Dallas. Coaching staff probably does also. 

This is the key. The offense is running on all cylinders, Russ is playing better than ever, and protecting him is paramount. Sounds like Deejay covered all his assignments. Sounds easy enough, but it should mean we can expect a similar workload. That puts him right in the thick of the RB2 mix. 

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1 hour ago, JediMasters said:

He had 11 redzone plays last week.  They clearly trust him. Don’t over think this.

bingo. Homer and maybe Collins will get some touches to spell him, but Dallas will get the high value touches we care about in this offense.

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18 hours ago, JediMasters said:

He had 11 redzone plays last week.  They clearly trust him. Don’t over think this.

Oh good grief. They had no one else for those plays. Even Carson has gotten pulled for Hyde in the redzone, and Dallas is a useless scrub compared to Carson.

Rationalize it all you want, but he ain't a lead back. He's Josh Kelley with a few goal line TDs and a more competent coaching staff.

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12 minutes ago, SkittleMania said:

Oh good grief. They had no one else for those plays. Even Carson has gotten pulled for Hyde in the redzone, and Dallas is a useless scrub compared to Carson.

Rationalize it all you want, but he ain't a lead back. He's Josh Kelley with a few goal line TDs and a more competent coaching staff.

 

Not sure who hurt you here, but it's okay. Carson will continue to maintain lead dog status when he is fully healthy.

Dallas isn't necessarily a scrub. He's a 4th round rookie who needed time to acclimate to the NFL and the playbook, and is behind a good RB on the depth chart.

It was only 3 years ago that Carson himself was a 7TH ROUND pick and we were all clamoring for him to get bellcow duties over Thomas Rawls & Eddie Lacy, and the threats of Rashaad Penny and Mike Davis the next season.

If anything this works in Carson's favor because he can take a few weeks off, get healthy and fresh for the fantasy playoffs. In the meantime, Dallas gets some rookie run.

Is he as good as Carson in Carson's 4th NFL season? Of course not... but championships aren't won with injured talent when it comes to RBs. They are won with opportunity and high value touches. And right now Dallas has that.

I see Alex Collins getting similar run as Alf Morris did coming off the street last week for the Giants spelling Wayne Gallman. 8 carries, 28 yards. Travis Homer gets mixed in for a couple of passing down plays. Otherwise it's at least 15 touches for Dallas to see what the rookie can do again.

 

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23 minutes ago, SkittleMania said:

Oh good grief. They had no one else for those plays. Even Carson has gotten pulled for Hyde in the redzone, and Dallas is a useless scrub compared to Carson.

Rationalize it all you want, but he ain't a lead back. He's Josh Kelley with a few goal line TDs and a more competent coaching staff.

Yes but Carson and Hyde ain’t playing. This scrub will get the bulk of the work. He fell into the end zone twice last week on his way to putting up RB1 numbers. I’ll take my chances with him in a good offense with an outstanding QB versus a Wayne Gallman in a Danny Pennies led offense, a JD McKissic, Patrick Laird or Jordan Howard, or Tony Pollard on an abysmal Dallas team. 

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2 minutes ago, Prezkot said:

 

Not sure who hurt you here, but it's okay. Carson will continue to maintain lead dog status when he is fully healthy.

Dallas isn't necessarily a scrub. He's a 4th round rookie who needed time to acclimate to the NFL and the playbook, and is behind a good RB on the depth chart.

It was only 3 years ago that Carson himself was a 7TH ROUND pick and we were all clamoring for him to get bellcow duties over Thomas Rawls & Eddie Lacy, and the threats of Rashaad Penny and Mike Davis the next season.

If anything this works in Carson's favor because he can take a few weeks off, get healthy and fresh for the fantasy playoffs. In the meantime, Dallas gets some rookie run.

Is he as good as Carson in Carson's 4th NFL season? Of course not... but championships aren't won with injured talent when it comes to RBs. They are won with opportunity and high value touches. And right now Dallas has that.

I see Alex Collins getting similar run as Alf Morris did coming off the street last week for the Giants spelling Wayne Gallman. 8 carries, 28 yards. Travis Homer gets mixed in for a couple of passing down plays. Otherwise it's at least 15 touches for Dallas to see what the rookie can do again.

 

No one hurt me, bud, I'm just telling it like it is. People here are trying to pump up Dallas into something he's not. Rawls and Lacy were washed by the time Carson came in so it's not really a comparable situation. I noticed you didn't mention my Kelley comparison, but for right now it's not far off. Kelley had a lot of high value touches and plenty of volume earlier in the season and how did that ultimately pay off?

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3 minutes ago, CooL said:

Yes but Carson and Hyde ain’t playing. This scrub will get the bulk of the work. He fell into the end zone twice last week on his way to putting up RB1 numbers. I’ll take my chances with him in a good offense with an outstanding QB versus a Wayne Gallman in a Danny Pennies led offense, a JD McKissic, Patrick Laird or Jordan Howard, or Tony Pollard on an abysmal Dallas team. 

You do you, dude. Now that Homer is back and Collins is getting called up, I would not be so confident proclaiming that he'll get a bulk of the work. Wilson gave him some cut and paste compliments, but he could just as easily be throwing them out to Homer and Collins after next game.

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2 minutes ago, SkittleMania said:

You do you, dude. Now that Homer is back and Collins is getting called up, I would not be so confident proclaiming that he'll get a bulk of the work. Wilson gave him some cut and paste compliments, but he could just as easily be throwing them out to Homer and Collins after next game.

Desperate times call for desperate measures.  There's lots of byes.  There's injuries.  There are guys getting opportunity because of that.  Deejay is one of them. Now he very well could turn out like Jamycal Hasty this past Thursday.  He could turn in an excellent fill-in score like Jerick McKinnon (never mind how it happened) or even a not great but not bad PPR score like Tyler Ervin.  

If you're an owner considering Deejay like I am, it's because maybe we aren't fortunate to be getting CMC coming back off our bench.  Maybe we weren't able to get Chase Edmonds.  There's a lot of question marks this week but I'll hitch my wagon to the guy with the best QB.  Better QB, more opportunities.

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8 minutes ago, SkittleMania said:

No one hurt me, bud, I'm just telling it like it is. People here are trying to pump up Dallas into something he's not. Rawls and Lacy were washed by the time Carson came in so it's not really a comparable situation. I noticed you didn't mention my Kelley comparison, but for right now it's not far off. Kelley had a lot of high value touches and plenty of volume earlier in the season and how did that ultimately pay off?

 

I'm not speaking for anyone else, but I'm simply pumping the opportunity and high value touches of Dallas for at least this week, and potentially any week forward if Carson's injury persists, dependent on what the rest of the depth chart looks like. That doesn't mean I think he's going to replace Carson or force him into an RBBC when he's healthy. And beyond this year who knows? RBs have a short shelf life.

But this week, beyond the typical studs, he looks like a good streaming play because he got opportunity and high value touches last week and nothing has changed on the depth chart except signing Alex Collins off the street after over a year, and Travis Homer getting healthier. Homer, a RB that outside Week 16 last year (10 carries) the Seahawks have yet to give more than 5 carries to in a single game. They entrusted Dallas 18 rush attempts in a blowout last week. That looks like they entrust him at least enough over Homer...

Rawls and Lacy were washed up of course, but Alex Collins isn't? I even mentioned Collins WILL most likely get a few rushes... probably as a COP/3rd down back. He may even vulture a TD on the 1 yard line. But it would be aggressive of Carroll to throw Collins out there for more than a few low leverage touches after being out of the NFL for so long.

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2 hours ago, SkittleMania said:

Oh good grief. They had no one else for those plays. Even Carson has gotten pulled for Hyde in the redzone, and Dallas is a useless scrub compared to Carson.

Rationalize it all you want, but he ain't a lead back. He's Josh Kelley with a few goal line TDs and a more competent coaching staff.

He's a lead back when Carson or Hyde are out, and his 20+ points and dominance of the snap percentage proves that. 

I don't think anyone in here's banging the drum that he's an elite talent. Fantasy is often simply about opportunity/touches. 

1 hour ago, SkittleMania said:

No one hurt me, bud, I'm just telling it like it is. People here are trying to pump up Dallas into something he's not. Rawls and Lacy were washed by the time Carson came in so it's not really a comparable situation. I noticed you didn't mention my Kelley comparison, but for right now it's not far off. Kelley had a lot of high value touches and plenty of volume earlier in the season and how did that ultimately pay off?

Kelley never had a game like Deejay did last week. And while the Chargers offense looks pretty darn good with Herbert, it's not as good as Seattle. 

Oh and one more minor detail. Kelley had Ekeler and now has JJ to contend with. The appeal with Deejay is he has no one to contend with. 

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7 hours ago, BGDDYKWL said:

He's a lead back when Carson or Hyde are out, and his 20+ points and dominance of the snap percentage proves that. 

I don't think anyone in here's banging the drum that he's an elite talent. Fantasy is often simply about opportunity/touches. 

Kelley never had a game like Deejay did last week. And while the Chargers offense looks pretty darn good with Herbert, it's not as good as Seattle. 

Oh and one more minor detail. Kelley had Ekeler and now has JJ to contend with. The appeal with Deejay is he has no one to contend with. 

In his very first game, Kelley rushed 12 times for 60 yards (5ypc) and had 1 TD. He had more yards combined than Dallas even though he had no receptions he had only one less TD. And that was with a healthy Ekeler playing. You saying he never had a game like Deejay is like me saying Deejay never had a game like Matt Asiata's 30 yard, 3 TD game. It was inefficient as all hell and is likely his high water mark on the season in terms of fantasy points.

Dallas has other RBs to contend with on his team. Sorry, but Homer and Collins are going to eat into his share. He only had all the work he had last week because there was literally no one else that could spell him expect for Homer, who was still nursing a knee injury.

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1 hour ago, hines said:

Where has this idea come from that they trust Dallas more than Homer? Totally wrong based on every single piece of evidence we have 

 

What is all the evidence that makes it totally wrong? I'm not trying to start an empty-handed argument, I would like to know what that evidence is as maybe it will change my mind and inform my decision to start Dallas as a bye week RB2. But it's awfully hard to trust your statement when you offer literally ZERO evidence to back it up.

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Homer's only seen max 4 carries and max 2 targets all season long. Dallas's YPC might have been low against the 9ers 2nd best run defense but he still scored twice, seems like they trusted him and Seattle won the game. I'm firing up DeeJay this week ahead of some other decent options

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