Deke 1,916 Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 TD dependent, and MAYBE the 4th red zone option? Don't like the odds. I'd honestly rather take my chances on guys like Gerald Everett, Drew Sample, Harrison Bryant, etc. at this point. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Magoo 1,590 Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 11 minutes ago, Deke said: TD dependent, and MAYBE the 4th red zone option? Don't like the odds. I'd honestly rather take my chances on guys like Gerald Everett, Drew Sample, Harrison Bryant, etc. at this point. Most important to me is that he looked healthy again. He's basically the Mike Williams of TE at this point. You'll never know when he pops but he will every two or three games. The fact that Corey Davis blew up kind of shows that this isn't a AJ Brown in or out rationale for his big games. And I know this is hindsight but the Cincy TE numbers were skewed by the 3 Browns TE TDs the week before. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Deke 1,916 Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 2 minutes ago, Magoo said: Most important to me is that he looked healthy again. He's basically the Mike Williams of TE at this point. You'll never know when he pops but he will every two or three games. The fact that Corey Davis blew up kind of shows that this isn't a AJ Brown in or out rationale for his big games. And I know this is hindsight but the Cincy TE numbers were skewed by the 3 Browns TE TDs the week before. He could be the healthiest guy in the league and it won't matter if he's not part of the offense. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cheezor42 534 Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 Tanny hits his first read 90% of the time. He simply hasn’t been gameplanned any primary reads since his injury. I think he’ll get worked back into the offense to the tune of 3-4 designed targets a game plus a couple random looks bringing him back to the TE1 conversation. But we shall see. Until he gets featured a few times per game again it’s a problem Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Evincar 1,714 Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 28 minutes ago, Deke said: TD dependent, and MAYBE the 4th red zone option? Don't like the odds. I'd honestly rather take my chances on guys like Gerald Everett, Drew Sample, Harrison Bryant, etc. at this point. Those guys are all worse. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
aapox 896 Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 Man, I was here 2 weeks ago sounding the alarm about this, and I was really hoping I was wrong. IDK why, but it seems like based on what I've seen he's been moved to the blocking TE and Firkser is in there on more passing plays (3rd and 7, etc). Anyone else seeing this too? This feels like a huge problem. I'm interested to see not only the snap breakdown, but the routes run breakdown. I didn't see Firkser coming in and being a legitimate option to steal passing down work considering how good Jonnu is with the ball in his hands.... Ugh! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RunCMC 2,526 Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 (edited) Emerging Corey Davis is the main problem here. He's the new Jonnu Smith lol Downright criminal not sending at least 6 targets a game to this monster. Edited November 2, 2020 by RunCMC 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ajs723 3,400 Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 Seems pretty doom and gloom in here. Is the party over... or is there a chance that he's still a TE1? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pastorofmuppets2 10,634 Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 12 minutes ago, ajs723 said: Seems pretty doom and gloom in here. Is the party over... or is there a chance that he's still a TE1? ... the doom and gloom is actually in the boxscore, friendo - we are simply the mirror. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ajs723 3,400 Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 13 minutes ago, pastorofmuppets2 said: ... the doom and gloom is actually in the boxscore, friendo - we are simply the mirror. Looking for a Kittle replacement. I can buy low on Jonnu. Wondering if that reflection might start looking better in the coming weeks... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MingusDew 407 Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 1 minute ago, ajs723 said: Looking for a Kittle replacement. I can buy low on Jonnu. Wondering if that reflection might start looking better in the coming weeks... I don't know at this point. Between AJ Brown and Corey Davis (smh) there are too many mouths to feed here. Jonnu is basically Mark Andrews with a lower ceiling. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ajs723 3,400 Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 2 minutes ago, MingusDew said: I don't know at this point. Between AJ Brown and Corey Davis (smh) there are too many mouths to feed here. Jonnu is basically Mark Andrews with a lower ceiling. Ugh, yeah... I hate the TE position. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
aapox 896 Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 2 minutes ago, MingusDew said: I don't know at this point. Between AJ Brown and Corey Davis (smh) there are too many mouths to feed here. Jonnu is basically Mark Andrews with a lower ceiling. I really don't think those 2 guys are the problem. The problem is that Anthony Firkser has come out of nowhere to siphon considerable targets and snaps on passing downs: Jonnu | Firkser in targets since week 5 (Firkser first considerable game) W8: 2 | 3 W7: 4 | 2 W6 X | X (Injury for Jonnu - Firkser BALLED) W5: 7 | 5 TO: 13 | 10 13 targets in 3 games just isn't really gonna cut it. Imagine if the split was more like 18 | 5 .. then we'd be talking. Firkser was not targeted in week 4. Idk if his amazing week 6 led to him taking this role on, or what, but I really think if this doesn't change in the next week or two we're talking about a guy with a 1 point floor for the ROS. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MingusDew 407 Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 Just now, aapox said: I really don't think those 2 guys are the problem. The problem is that Anthony Firkser has come out of nowhere to siphon considerable targets and snaps on passing downs: Jonnu | Firkser in targets since week 5 (Firkser first considerable game) W8: 2 | 3 W7: 4 | 2 W6 X | X (Injury for Jonnu - Firkser BALLED) W5: 7 | 5 TO: 13 | 10 13 targets in 3 games just isn't really gonna cut it. Imagine if the split was more like 18 | 5 .. then we'd be talking. Firkser was not targeted in week 4. Idk if his amazing week 6 led to him taking this role on, or what, but I really think if this doesn't change in the next week or two we're talking about a guy with a 1 point floor for the ROS. This is also terrifying. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Alconbury 249 Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 "Problem" for fantasy is Jonnu is a great blocker as well. Titans have no issues putting him one-on-one with top edge rushers and as key blocker opening up lanes for Henry in the run game. I didn't watch last game or read snap breakdown but losing their stud LT Taylor Lewan for the year isn't going to make Jonnu any less needed staying in for blocking. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Deke 1,916 Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 6 hours ago, Evincar said: Those guys are all worse. yep they are. Talent wise. But fantasy wise they have a higher floor Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BeastOfTheLeast 56 Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 Well we'll well... @pastorofmuppets2 gotta say I'm done with him. Too many weapons and he's a last option who needs redzone tds to be anything. Rather hit the wire at this point Quote Link to post Share on other sites
afl5013 420 Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 45 minutes ago, Alconbury said: "Problem" for fantasy is Jonnu is a great blocker as well. Titans have no issues putting him one-on-one with top edge rushers and as key blocker opening up lanes for Henry in the run game. I didn't watch last game or read snap breakdown but losing their stud LT Taylor Lewan for the year isn't going to make Jonnu any less needed staying in for blocking. This is a great take. I have a hard time saying that just because both Brown and Davis are healthy, they will chose not to utilize a weapon like Jonnu, but without Lewan they may be forced to utilize his blocking instead. Now I'm a little worried. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BeastOfTheLeast 56 Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 On 10/27/2020 at 9:27 AM, RoseLin23 said: Overreaction central in this thread. Was it really? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
snerpy 371 Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 (edited) he’s basically Tonyan at this stage with a slightly higher ceiling; a boom or bust TE that’s highly TD dependent. [...] Edited November 3, 2020 by tonycpsu Removed Cool Story Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Evincar 1,714 Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 1 hour ago, Deke said: yep they are. Talent wise. But fantasy wise they have a higher floor Drew Sample has a higher floor? He's a combined 4 games of 2 catches for 7 yards... Everertt and Bryant are only useful if Higbee and Hooper are not playing. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Steve-O 44 Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 10 hours ago, snerpy said: he’s basically Tonyan at this stage with a slightly higher ceiling; a boom or bust TE that’s highly TD dependent. [...] I would rather have Tonyan. Rodgers loves throwing to that guy. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DConny1 125 Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 I'm still a huge fan of Smith and hope he can get a bigger piece of the pie going forward, but good luck fellas. I managed to package him to get Waller. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fluffy69 51 Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 Probably going to the bench this week for me, so probably 10+ points incoming. That's the way she goes... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kyoun1e 1,050 Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 Corey Davis has been smoking. Hot waiver pickup this week. If history is any guide, this is where he predictably flops because he's in starting lineups. CHI tough on WRs. Maybe Davis down will mean Smith up. Wishful thinking, but... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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