Saquon Barkley 2020 Outlook

[LurkingFFPlayer 21]

13 hours ago, jay2491 said:

Saquon is match up proof, my reason for taking him #1 is simply cmac has no where to go but down and saquon is still the most talented rb in football. 20 straight years the #1 fantasy player has yet to repeat but people are still saying cmac is a no Brainer. I'll always fade the guy coming off the career year. When Brady, Peyton and Mahommes all threw 50 TDs how did they do the following year? Same logic applies 

 

I agree with a lot of what you're saying, but your 20 years comment is wrong. Gurley was RB1 in standard scoring in 2017 and 2018. 

[Gohawks 10,075]

40 minutes ago, LurkingFFPlayer said:

 

I agree with a lot of what you're saying, but your 20 years comment is wrong. Gurley was RB1 in standard scoring in 2017 and 2018. 

[CORTEz 1,098]

Sauqon has the highest floor for RBs...I'd even say this season, a higher floor than CMC, if not the same floor.

I think there's a legitimate chance that we see Barkley reel in 100 catches this year, and we could very well see a monster 2,000 APY season from Saquon.

 

PPR wise, I'd say his floor is going to be about 15 PPR points per game. And wouldn't at all surprise me to see a large handful of 30 PPR point games.

[Drewfus 128]

Well, that was a disaster. 

 

This is one of the worst OLs I've ever seen. I can't recall an RB hit immediately after receiving the handoff this many times. 

 

Garrett also didn't use him very well or creatively. Should have run more screens as aggressive as that DL was. 

 

One of the worst matchups for Barkley, but I expected a better showing. My outlook for him, and my FF team, have taken a dive tonight. 

[Stallion 278]

He lost me this week's matchup.

To be fair, it wasn't his fault - I fully blame his horrific o-line for that, plus the Daniel Jones redzone INT. But still, I'm pretty mad.

[gbill2004 1,480]

It was a tough matchup and that OL will take a few weeks to gel. He'll be fine. 

[mikeflavaz 679]

He will be fine as said.  But how fine?  Will there be a noticeable difference between him and Mostert or J. Taylor?  Maybe not.  That O-line is horrendous, maybe the worst I've seen...  He's got a golden name.  It may be best to sell high after a good performance.  

Edited September 15, 2020 by mikeflavaz

[Guwop 802]

3 minutes ago, mikeflavaz said:

He will be fine as said. But how fine? Will there be a noticeable difference between him and Mostert or J. Taylor?  Maybe not.  That O-line is horrendous. He's got a golden name.  It may be best to sell high after a good performance.  

 

what value can someone expect in return tho. He went first round and might underperform and the asking price wont be pennies...

[dsrich 990]

5 minutes ago, mikeflavaz said:

He will be fine as said.  But how fine?  Will there be a noticeable difference between him and Mostert or J. Taylor?  Maybe not.  That O-line is horrendous, maybe the worst I've seen...  He's got a golden name.  It may be best to sell high after a good performance.  

Yes. Yes there will.

[Ryansm11 2,083]

Chill with the overreactions. Steelers defense is just that good, they 100% sold out to shut down the run. Next week will be his breakout. 

[ColoWrex 1,951]

2 minutes ago, Ryansm11 said:

Chill with the overreactions. Steelers defense is just that good, they 100% sold out to shut down the run. Next week will be his breakout. 

You're likely right... but I kept telling myself this for the first 2/3 of last season.  

[mikeflavaz 679]

12 minutes ago, Guwop said:

 

what value can someone expect in return tho. He went first round and might underperform and the asking price wont be pennies...

 

You can get the world after a good game.  Maybe Chicago next week is it.  

 

9 minutes ago, Ryansm11 said:

Chill with the overreactions. Steelers defense is just that good, they 100% sold out to shut down the run. Next week will be his breakout. 

 

15 carries for 6 yards. That's as bad as it gets. The Steelers defense is tough and it will most certainly get better, no doubt.  But 2nd overall pick better...I'm thinking not.  

Edited September 15, 2020 by mikeflavaz

[Drewfus 128]

1 minute ago, mikeflavaz said:

 

You can get the world after a good game.  Maybe Chicago next week is it.  

 

 

15 carries for 6 yards. That's as bad as it gets. The Steelers defense is tough and it will most certainly get better no doubt  But, a 2nd pick overall better, probably not.  On the other hand... he does well against chicago.. you can trade him for acouple players and improve your team.  

I'm struggling to even imagine that OL I just watched getting a push and opening holes against a good defense like Chicago. 

 

Kicking myself for believing that they upgraded the OL enough to make SB my keeper. 

[Ryansm11 2,083]

Yallllll plzzzzzz relax lmao. Dude just had 12 PPR points with no touchdowns and one of the worst rushin games ever. It’ll be fine. 

[XxxOilOverloadxxX 1,958]

I wouldn't sell Giants will be down plenty this year for check down dump offs

[cdd10 1,194]

9 minutes ago, Drewfus said:

I'm struggling to even imagine that OL I just watched getting a push and opening holes against a good defense like Chicago. 

 

Kicking myself for believing that they upgraded the OL enough to make SB my keeper. 

AP just ran for 100 on the Bears....I think Barkley will be okay

[LarryChip10 465]

When you have the best bruiser RB in football, yet choose to pass the ball multiple times when it's 1'st and goal from the 3 yard line multiple times...??? That might explain why you no longer coach a good team. Putting the ball in the hands of a RC (basically) QB and an offensive o-line is inexcusable. The coaches own this game, it was as unimaginable and non-reactive as you can get! 

[Drewfus 128]

14 minutes ago, LarryChip10 said:

When you have the best bruiser RB in football, yet choose to pass the ball multiple times when it's 1'st and goal from the 3 yard line multiple times...??? That might explain why you no longer coach a good team. Putting the ball in the hands of a RC (basically) QB and an offensive o-line is inexcusable. The coaches own this game, it was as unimaginable and non-reactive as you can get! 

?? Multiple steelers were greeting Barkley at the mesh point on every single running play. I don't like Garrett and thought he should have run more screens for Saquon, but I can't fault him for throwing there. 

[LarryChip10 465]

9 minutes ago, Drewfus said:

?? Multiple steelers were greeting Barkley at the mesh point on every single running play. I don't like Garrett and thought he should have run more screens for Saquon, but I can't fault him for throwing there. 

When you have 1'st and goal from the 2-3 yard line, Barkley is you RB, and it's 2 min into the game #1... yet you throw the ball twice w/ an unproven mediocre QB... you lose games. There is no defending this decision, period. 

[Drewfus 128]

Just now, LarryChip10 said:

When you have 1'st and goal from the 2-3 yard line, Barkley is you RB, and it's 2 min into the game #1... yet you throw the ball twice w/ an unproven mediocre QB... you lose games. There is no defending this decision, period. 

I'd agree with you if they weren't going in reverse every single time they handed off. 

[pdog109 4,721]

35 minutes ago, LarryChip10 said:

When you have the best bruiser RB in football, yet choose to pass the ball multiple times when it's 1'st and goal from the 3 yard line multiple times...??? That might explain why you no longer coach a good team. Putting the ball in the hands of a RC (basically) QB and an offensive o-line is inexcusable. The coaches own this game, it was as unimaginable and non-reactive as you can get! 

 

Garrett just getting warmed up.

[TuesdaymorningQB 247]

1 hour ago, mikeflavaz said:

He will be fine as said.  But how fine?  Will there be a noticeable difference between him and Mostert or J. Taylor?  Maybe not.  That O-line is horrendous, maybe the worst I've seen...  He's got a golden name.  It may be best to sell high after a good performance.  

There will be a large difference between him and those players. For one he is getting both the running and receiving back work. Those other players may get a few receptions but they'll also be pulled in obvious passing downs for other backs. He'll be fine as in the same class with Kamara, Henry, Cook, and CEH but maybe not with CMC and Elliott. Maybe he was overdrafted at #2 overall, but, if so, only because he should have been #3 or #4 overall. 

[Drewfus 128]

Saquon tonight tied for the 2nd fewest yards of anyone with 15+ carries in the last 50 years. 

He averaged -.7 yards before contact. 

Trying not to overreact, but this wasn't any old one-off skunking by a top defense. This was a historic run blocking performance by the NYG OL. 

[Guwop 802]

2 hours ago, mikeflavaz said:

 

You can get the world after a good game.  Maybe Chicago next week is it.  

 

 

15 carries for 6 yards. That's as bad as it gets. The Steelers defense is tough and it will most certainly get better, no doubt.  But 2nd overall pick better...I'm thinking not.  

 

gonna need a few after this week unless they truly believe and you can fleece em but it's hard to count on him for selling high

[vercrazy 970]

2 hours ago, LarryChip10 said:

When you have the best bruiser RB in football, yet choose to pass the ball multiple times when it's 1'st and goal from the 3 yard line multiple times...??? That might explain why you no longer coach a good team. Putting the ball in the hands of a RC (basically) QB and an offensive o-line is inexcusable. The coaches own this game, it was as unimaginable and non-reactive as you can get! 

 

Saquon is not the best bruiser in football, best RB by skill-set is fair, but not best bruiser.