Uncle_Ruckus 268 Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 3 minutes ago, TwoCan Sam said: Reagor will definitely have his opportunities early due to lack of competition. However let’s be real here and temper expectations for all rookies given the lack of a normal offseason. If you’re deciding between a WR vet and a WR rookie, go with the vet every time until you have a legitimate reason not to. CEH didn’t seem to notice the shortened offseason. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sSektor 2,255 Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 Start him if you have no other options obviously but don't expect much with Ertz, Djax, and Goedert healthy. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Uncle_Ruckus 268 Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 2 minutes ago, sSektor said: Start him if you have no other options obviously but don't expect much with Ertz, Djax, and Goedert healthy. It’s been 4 years since Jackson cracked over 50 receptions on a season—that’s 3 catches a game 😂. My mind is blown that people keep bringing up Jackson haha 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
brosephd 1,308 Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 whats his wr comparison? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TwoCan Sam 293 Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 8 minutes ago, Uncle_Ruckus said: CEH didn’t seem to notice the shortened offseason. I knew someone would bring this up lol. Posting numbers as a rookie when you’re a RB is way easier than when you’re a WR. Plus CEH has the perfect situation to succeed. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Uncle_Ruckus 268 Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 1 minute ago, TwoCan Sam said: I knew someone would bring this up lol. Posting numbers as a rookie when you’re a RB is way easier than when you’re a WR. Plus CEH has the perfect situation to succeed. But you said temper expectations for ALL rookies 🤔. And the Eagles literally had practice squad dudes starting at WR last yr. Now they have the same trash core but an old Djax. Reagor will eat Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sSektor 2,255 Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 5 minutes ago, Uncle_Ruckus said: It’s been 4 years since Jackson cracked over 50 receptions on a season—that’s 3 catches a game 😂. My mind is blown that people keep bringing up Jackson haha Oh I don't expect Djax to last long enough to get 50 receptions this season either. But it's week 1 and he's healthy so he's worth starting over a rookie WR that didn't get a normal offseason experience. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Uncle_Ruckus 268 Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 6 minutes ago, brosephd said: whats his wr comparison? Advanced analytics have his closest comparison as DJ Moore Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Uncle_Ruckus 268 Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 2 minutes ago, sSektor said: Oh I don't expect Djax to last long enough to get 50 receptions this season either. But it's week 1 and he's healthy so he's worth starting over a rookie WR that didn't get a normal offseason experience. That’s valid but it’s likely the rookie gets peppered with targets underneath as well. I could see him getting 8 targets. I think he’s worth a shot given my position also. Have to start 3 WRs and Sutton and Golladay are out for me. My options are Harry, Edwards, Amendola, Ayiuk, Djax...etc for my 3rd spot. If Djax doesn’t hit a home run he’s useless. I think the rookie has a more stable floor and much better upside season long. We shall see Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TwoCan Sam 293 Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 7 minutes ago, Uncle_Ruckus said: But you said temper expectations for ALL rookies 🤔. And the Eagles literally had practice squad dudes starting at WR last yr. Now they have the same trash core but an old Djax. Reagor will eat Ok minus the one outlier haha. JJAW was a rookie last season and he was absolute garbage. Reagor is definitely more talented than him but for now I’m saying don’t be shocked if he doesn’t produce immediately. He could very well go off given the lack of competition. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Uncle_Ruckus 268 Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, TwoCan Sam said: Ok minus the one outlier haha. JJAW was a rookie last season and he was absolute garbage. Reagor is definitely more talented than him but for now I’m saying don’t be shocked if he doesn’t produce immediately. He could very well go off given the lack of competition. He’s definitely not a sure thing but I really like his odds compared to the field of rookie WRs. I think Wentz will have a really good yr too. Wentz is a better QB than someone like Watson. He’s had some tough breaks but I expect a really solid season Edited September 11, 2020 by Uncle_Ruckus 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TwoCan Sam 293 Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 1 minute ago, Uncle_Ruckus said: He’s definitely not a sure thing but I really like his odds compared to the field of rookie WRs. I think Wentz will have a really good yr too. Wentz is a better QB than someone like Watson. He’s had some tough breaks but I expect a really solid season Agreed. The only question mark surrounding the Eagles offense is the line. I will say Pederson taking over all playcalling duties will help. Groh was not ready for that. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RunCMC 2,474 Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, fawkes_mulder said: Reagor could have a great year. Alshon out for several weeks, D Jax and Ertz ahead in pecking order for now. Will arcega whiteside ever be relevant? ward? Really hard to trust camp reports, but allegedly whiteside, a 2nd round pick, is gonna be more involved this year. Who knows... Could definitely see path to production, especially with Alshon out. But IMO there are some even easier ones. I think the pair of rookie raiders both have enormous upside (edwards prob would have been a first round pick too, like Ruggs, but for the meniscus tear injury - which he seems to have recovered fully from). Aiyuk with an injured deebo and apparent connection (beat articles, smh, but I do think the kid's good) and Pittman alongside TY also have trememdous opportunity. Several rookie WR in good situations, just feel bad for the shenault, mims, etc. crowd in a bad situation. Not trying to threads***, I like Reagor, I'm just not sure I like him more than some other rookie WR, but he's got a great opportunity too. They all have competition ... it's a complete dart throw. Reagor definitely has the best QB throwing to him but I do like that Edwards kid, he might just have the easiest route to targets. Aiyuk could pop off with Deebo currently injured , but when he's back you can't trust any of their pass catchers not named Kittle or Samuel. 49ers just don't throw the ball enough Raiders have: Edwards - Ruggs - Waller (TE) - Renfrow in the slot Colts : TY Hilton - Paris Campbell -Pittman Jr - Zac Pascal - Doyle / Mo Alie Cox at TE It might take a few weeks or longer who knows, but Pittman Jr should leap frog everyone on the depth chart not named TY Hilton. Edited September 11, 2020 by RunCMC 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TwoCan Sam 293 Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 7 minutes ago, RunCMC said: They all have competition ... it's a complete dart throw. Reagor definitely has the best QB throwing to him but I do like that Edwards kid, he might just have the easiest route to targets. Aiyuk could pop off with Deebo currently injured , but when he's back you can't trust any of their pass catchers not named Kittle or Samuel. 49ers just don't throw the ball enough Raiders have: Edwards - Ruggs - Waller (TE) - Renfrow in the slot Colts : TY Hilton - Paris Campbell -Pittman Jr - Zac Pascal - Doyle / Mo Alie Cox at TE Rare Mo Alie Cox mention! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RunCMC 2,474 Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 (edited) 9 minutes ago, TwoCan Sam said: Rare Mo Alie Cox mention! Hahah, I only mention it because the Colts love to run multiple TE sets. Trey Burton is even on the team but currently injured. To reiterate, if you're going to gamble on a rookie WR : Edwards & Reagor are in the best situations imo Excluding TDLamb + Jerry Jeudy Edited September 12, 2020 by RunCMC 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DerrickHenrysCleats 5,893 Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 4 minutes ago, RunCMC said: Hahah, I only mention it because the Colts love to run multiple TE sets. Trey Burton is even on the team but currently injured. To reiterate, if you're going to gamble on a rookie WR : Edwards & Reagor are in the best situations imo Excluding TDLamb + Jerry Jeudy No Ruggs? Interesting. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Stonej14 666 Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 51 minutes ago, Uncle_Ruckus said: That’s valid but it’s likely the rookie gets peppered with targets underneath as well. I could see him getting 8 targets. I think he’s worth a shot given my position also. Have to start 3 WRs and Sutton and Golladay are out for me. My options are Harry, Edwards, Amendola, Ayiuk, Djax...etc for my 3rd spot. If Djax doesn’t hit a home run he’s useless. I think the rookie has a more stable floor and much better upside season long. We shall see I thought reagor was supposed to be a deep threat guy not a underneath guy. It’s all I’ve been hearing about here in eagles nation. And I don’t know how many targets he could get underneath anyway that’s where godert, ertz, Scott, and sanders are all being fed the ball. I’m not saying he doesn’t have the talent/opportunity to pull down 8 balls but I’d like to see it first. also DJax had 8 catches against The redskins last year and only 2 of them were deep balls so he might be Carson’s favorite target even without a deep ball. Idk just food for thought. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TwoCan Sam 293 Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 The only thing I worry about is the pressure getting to Wentz before he can take the deep shot. He’ll definitely have opportunities to hit Jackson & Reagor downfield it’s just a matter of how often. The TEs and the RBs will probably see the majority of the targets this game. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RunCMC 2,474 Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 42 minutes ago, DerrickHenrysCleats said: No Ruggs? Interesting. Touched on your Bama’ nerve did I 😉 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DerrickHenrysCleats 5,893 Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 5 minutes ago, RunCMC said: Touched on your Bama’ nerve did I 😉 Just trying to lock in your predictions so I can bring them up after the season. 😉 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TwoCan Sam 293 Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 What’s the severity of re-injury for him? If he stretches out for a bomb and falls on his shoulder is that a death sentence? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Randy Gradishar 62 Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 2 hours ago, Randy Gradishar said: Careful with DJax, Eugene. You plebeians. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RunCMC 2,474 Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 11 minutes ago, DerrickHenrysCleats said: Just trying to lock in your predictions so I can bring them up after the season. 😉 I know you have bigger things on your mind, like if Henry will catch 40 passes this season or not 😜 It’s all love brodie 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
munygon2 395 Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 Kendall Fuller is out for Washington in this game. That may help the passing game even more for Wentz. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Uncle_Ruckus 268 Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 51 minutes ago, Stonej14 said: I thought reagor was supposed to be a deep threat guy not a underneath guy. It’s all I’ve been hearing about here in eagles nation. And I don’t know how many targets he could get underneath anyway that’s where godert, ertz, Scott, and sanders are all being fed the ball. I’m not saying he doesn’t have the talent/opportunity to pull down 8 balls but I’d like to see it first. also DJax had 8 catches against The redskins last year and only 2 of them were deep balls so he might be Carson’s favorite target even without a deep ball. Idk just food for thought. Reagor compares most closely to DJ Moore but faster. He certainly can take the top off a defense, but he’s strong for a WR and can make catches all over the field. He’s 206 pounds, so not strictly some 170-180 WR who can only run straight and fast but can’t move through contact. And Jackson’s 8 catches is probably the most catches (or in the top 3 games) Jackson has had in a single game in the last 3 years—making it an outlier. Jackson is 34, coming off major injury, with numbers that were sorely reducing. Not worried about Scott either lol. Reagor is the only WR on the team who can demand a strong target share. Every team has at least 1 WR who gets strong volume. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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