MBarbarian 968 Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 Can't wait for this dude to get back. Locked in RB1 (top 12) rest of season? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
harck 478 Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 1 hour ago, MBarbarian said: Can't wait for this dude to get back. Locked in RB1 (top 12) rest of season? If he maintains at least a 50-60% snapshare like early in the season? For sure. Any RB in this high-scoring offense will produce, and Carson is fairly talented. If for some strange reason this becomes a more evenly split 3-back committee or Carson is limited to a 40-45% share... could dip to RB2. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The 7th Beatles 15,748 Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
24/7fantasysports 316 Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 Seattle's OC reports that Carson looks terrific leading up to this week's game against the Eagles. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nmartinez12443 558 Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 Heard nothing but glowing reports and everything points to him playing Monday, but I need a full practice tomorrow and Carrol to say it. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The 7th Beatles 15,748 Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 1 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
harck 478 Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 (edited) Finally. Hope this RB1 stays healthy the rest of the way and has a big showing Monday night. Eagles are quite good against the run though. Edited November 29, 2020 by harck Quote Link to post Share on other sites
harck 478 Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 (edited) Decent fantasy score tonight. His useage was bizarre for a "full go." Hopefully he was just on a snap count limit and they were easing him back in, but if this is the norm going forward, Carson is a low end RB2. Hyde was getting most of the snaps tonight, even had a lot of goal line that Carson would have likely punched in putting his total to 2 on the day. Carson was clearly the better back, but they didn't seem confident playing him fully. Edited December 1, 2020 by harck 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JacobThunder15 321 Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 5 minutes ago, harck said: Decent fantasy score tonight. His useage was bizarre for a "full go." Hopefully he was just on a snap count limit and they were easing him back in, but if this is the norm going forward, Carson is a low end RB2. Hyde was getting most of the snaps tonight, even had a lot of goal line that Carson would have likely punched in putting his total to 2 on the day. Carson was clearly the better back, but they didn't seem confident playing him fully. They were ahead, I dont think they had confidence in Wentz to pull them back in. Could have been gamescript, will be telling next game Quote Link to post Share on other sites
harck 478 Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 1 minute ago, JacobThunder15 said: They were ahead, I dont think they had confidence in Wentz to pull them back in. Could have been gamescript, will be telling next game Even early in the game when it was close, Carson was in on the first couple series, then they pulled him out for a loooong stretch of Hyde, even giving Hyde the first 3 shots at the goal line. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Yanksfan06 248 Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 You can tell they were just easing him back in, and he is clearly a much better runner than Hyde. My guess is he gets the lion share of snaps early in the next few games, but if Seattle goes up big on NYG/NYJ/WSH then they will let Hyde run it to kill time and conserve Carson. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PizzaBeerFF 760 Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 11 minutes ago, harck said: Even early in the game when it was close, Carson was in on the first couple series, then they pulled him out for a loooong stretch of Hyde, even giving Hyde the first 3 shots at the goal line. This is true. But I noticed Carson had ripped off two long plays and asked to come off. I think his games legs aren’t under him yet. Having said that, it was a lot more Hyde than I would have liked to see. It was night and day between the two... visually obvious. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MBarbarian 968 Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 Box score just backs up how much better Carson was than Hyde. Sure they didn't give Carson the CMC first game back treatment, but why risk it. They won. Carson emerged healthy, which is the most important thing for fantasy owners heading into playoffs. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JacobThunder15 321 Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 3 minutes ago, MBarbarian said: Box score just backs up how much better Carson was than Hyde. Sure they didn't give Carson the CMC first game back treatment, but why risk it. They won. Carson emerged healthy, which is the most important thing for fantasy owners heading into playoffs. I agree but how many of those carries were at the end of the game when the eagles knew they were running. Maybe half? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MBarbarian 968 Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, JacobThunder15 said: I agree but how many of those carries were at the end of the game when the eagles knew they were running. Maybe half? 6 fourth quarter rushes for Hyde in the fourth quarter for -3 yards total. Carson had 1 fourth quarter rush in the fourth for -2 yards. 3rd quarter: Hyde: 1 rush for 4 yds, Carson: 2 rushes for 11 yds. The Seahawks tried to use Hyde to close it out in the fourth after they were up 17-9, but he failed to get any first downs. He did have a 17 yard touchdown nullified by a holding penalty though with 6 minutes left and they settled for a field goal. Philly turned over on downs, they went back to Hyde to close it out, no first down, settled for another field goal, then Philly scored the hail mary on the next drive with 12 seconds left. In a close game, bet they'll rely on Carson to close it out going forward. Edited December 1, 2020 by MBarbarian 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
harck 478 Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 (edited) In the post-game Carrol all but confirmed this is a two man hot hand committee going forward. Said something along the lines of both RBs will pound away, and more carries will go to whomever is hot. I do suspect, unfortunately for us fantasy owners, the Seahawks will try to preserve Carson for playoffs in these upcoming matchups. I don't think he's going to see his close to 60% snapshare that he was getting earlier in the season. Edited December 1, 2020 by harck Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Drewfus 128 Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 30 minutes ago, harck said: In the post-game Carrol all but confirmed this is a two man hot hand committee going forward. Said something along the lines of both RBs will pound away, and more carries will go to whomever is hot. I do suspect, unfortunately for us fantasy owners, the Seahawks will try to preserve Carson for playoffs in these upcoming matchups. I don't think he's going to see his close to 60% snapshare that he was getting earlier in the season. I don't buy the hot hand thing. I think he just didn't want to say the truth - that they didn't want to risk getting Carson hurt in a game they didn't really need to use him much - which would imply both that they didn't care about Hyde getting hurt and that they didn't respect Philly. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MBarbarian 968 Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 In all my years of fantasy (20 years?) listening to coaches, Pete Carroll is the biggest liar of them all by far, even more than Hoodie. All you can do is look at the stats and usage with him and ignore his coachspeak. Good real life coach, huge lying sack of $hit (for fantasy purposes). If you rely on his statements for fantasy decisions, put a quarter in your a** because you played yourself. 1 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
walkingjoint 19 Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 4 hours ago, harck said: In the post-game Carrol all but confirmed this is a two man hot hand committee going forward. Said something along the lines of both RBs will pound away, and more carries will go to whomever is hot. I do suspect, unfortunately for us fantasy owners, the Seahawks will try to preserve Carson for playoffs in these upcoming matchups. I don't think he's going to see his close to 60% snapshare that he was getting earlier in the season. I don’t disagree that it will be this way, but last night was not a hot hand situation (hard To be with 22 yards gained). It seemed by design to play Hyde more. As a Carson owner I’m hoping it was to ease him back after an extended period out. But the same thing was happening with Penny last year before he got hurt. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
owenmills 5,327 Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 7 hours ago, JacobThunder15 said: I agree but how many of those carries were at the end of the game when the eagles knew they were running. Maybe half? Yeah and Hyde also had a really nice TD run called back. I thought he looked good. He's not taking over the majority of snaps when Carson's healthy but I guess I'm not seeing as huge of a drop-off as other people are. I own neither FWIW Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cnewbykkn 832 Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 12 minutes ago, owenmills said: Yeah and Hyde also had a really nice TD run called back. I thought he looked good. He's not taking over the majority of snaps when Carson's healthy but I guess I'm not seeing as huge of a drop-off as other people are. I own neither FWIW ...but why was it called back? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SkinsChargersFan 3,422 Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 I wouldn’t be worried if I was a Carson owner. I think the biggest shift we’re seeing is Seattle going back to a balanced or run-heavy attack (like last year), rather than just “letting Russ cook” all game. Wilson’s pass attempts the last two games are 31 & 28, respectively, lower than every other game this season except the Pats in Week 2 (also 28). Their defense is healthier and playing better than earlier in the year, and I think they realized last week against the Cardinals that a bit more ball control makes them a better all-around team. I think Carson will get back to at least 60-75% share of touches next week, and the increased work for Hyde will be offset by the increased volume in the running game as a whole. I’d be more worried if I was a Wilson owner. They don’t play another elite offense the rest of the season, and for fantasy purposes, I think his ceiling games are all behind him. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
owenmills 5,327 Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 14 minutes ago, cnewbykkn said: ...but why was it called back? I don't even know where the hold on the play was but it didn't make the run any less impressive. Carson owners can keep telling themselves he sucks to make themselves feel better but he doesn't. He looked really good last game too in his first game back from the hammy injury. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cnewbykkn 832 Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 Just now, owenmills said: I don't even know where the hold on the play was but it didn't make the run any less impressive. Carson owners can keep telling themselves he sucks to make themselves feel better but he doesn't. He looked really good last game too in his first game back from the hammy injury. It absolutely makes it less impressive if thats the reason he even got into the endzone. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ST. STEVEN 4,375 Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 Just now, cnewbykkn said: It absolutely makes it less impressive if thats the reason he even got into the endzone. The hold created the space, it was going nowhere otherwise. Hyde is a solid banger that will get what's there, create a tad on his own. With the schedule he makes sense not only as a handcuff, but also some stand-alone value too. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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