Damien Harris 2020 Outlook

[activeobserver 178]

35 minutes ago, fingers said:

I wonder if someone had Harris and Hasty and could only pick one which way they'd go in standard?

Damien 

[harck 478]

Pretty impressive, I thought I saw a tweet floating around saying he faces the most stacked boxes of any back in the NFL right now. No one respects the Patriots passing game.

This guy is still a tough play in PPR and even standard in negative game scripts because they still don't use him in the passing game. I'm waiting week after week for him to get some targets, but they aren't really coming. The reports in training camp were that the Pats were most impressed with his pass-catching capabilities... too bad.

Edited November 5, 2020 by harck

[MingusDew 407]

5 minutes ago, harck said:

Pretty impressive, I thought I saw a tweet floating around saying he faces the most stacked boxes of any back in the NFL right now. No one respects the Patriots passing game.

This guy is still a tough play in PPR and even standard in negative game scripts because they still don't use him in the passing game. I'm waiting week after week for him to get some targets, but they aren't really coming. The reports in training camp were that the Pats were most impressed with his pass-catching capabilities... too bad.

 

They're using him like they used Sony Michel, unfortunately. Between the 20s guy that gets no passing work.

He's been very efficient with his touches but, as you alluded to, you can only play him in positive game scripts. Luckily, when you look up the definition of "positive game script" in the dictionary there's a picture of the 2020 Jets.

[Dirtywater97 1,074]

52 minutes ago, harck said:

Pretty impressive, I thought I saw a tweet floating around saying he faces the most stacked boxes of any back in the NFL right now. No one respects the Patriots passing game.

This guy is still a tough play in PPR and even standard in negative game scripts because they still don't use him in the passing game. I'm waiting week after week for him to get some targets, but they aren't really coming. The reports in training camp were that the Pats were most impressed with his pass-catching capabilities... too bad.

This one?

 

[harck 478]

48 minutes ago, MingusDew said:

 

They're using him like they used Sony Michel, unfortunately. Between the 20s guy that gets no passing work.

He's been very efficient with his touches but, as you alluded to, you can only play him in positive game scripts. Luckily, when you look up the definition of "positive game script" in the dictionary there's a picture of the 2020 Jets.

 

Yeah they are. I was just hoping with all the reports from training camp of his all-around ability they'd turn him loose a bit. Seems like it would be for their benefit if they can get him screen work and the like. If everyone is stacking the box on first and second down when Harris lines up (cause no one respects Pats pass and when White lines up you can play more for coverage), start designing more pass plays around.

[fingers 658]

1 hour ago, MingusDew said:

Between the 20s guy that gets no passing work.

To be fair they havent been inside the opponent's 20 in a month. The Jets haven't played like they'll run away with game (please god no!) which bodies well for script. I'm torn and desperate for a W this week.

[Lamont Sanford 1,800]

1 hour ago, harck said:

Pretty impressive, I thought I saw a tweet floating around saying he faces the most stacked boxes of any back in the NFL right now. No one respects the Patriots passing game.

This guy is still a tough play in PPR and even standard in negative game scripts because they still don't use him in the passing game. I'm waiting week after week for him to get some targets, but they aren't really coming. The reports in training camp were that the Pats were most impressed with his pass-catching capabilities... too bad.

Some post-game praise from Josh McDaniels hints that maybe Harris is earning more passing downs work based on his pass protection. 

McDaniels also saw some “encouraging” moments from Harris in pass protection against a Bills team that frequently blitzed. 

“Young players, that’s one of the areas where, when you come into the league, you don’t necessarily have great exposure or experience at handling blitzes and seeing all the different things that are thrown at you in the National Football League,” McDaniels said, “and Damien was able to pick up a couple secondary pressures on Sunday.”

https://nesn.com/2020/11/damien-harris-garners-rave-review-from-patriots-coach-after-career-day-vs-bills/

[ThunderDan 155]

Anyone worried about Sony being designated to return yesterday?

[dudewithabadcat 1,078]

22 minutes ago, ThunderDan said:

Anyone worried about Sony being designated to return yesterday?

 

You probably should be if you own Harris.  Sony was running like a mad dog before he went down.  I expect Sony to get some touches.  Hot hand approach. 

[SyNdicateZ 1,468]

25 minutes ago, dudewithabadcat said:

 

You probably should be if you own Harris.  Sony was running like a mad dog before he went down.  I expect Sony to get some touches.  Hot hand approach. 

As someone who watches Every Patriots game live, I am VERY confused on your statement suggesting that "Sony was running like a mad dog before he went down."

 It's Harris who has run much harder than Sony in games he played. Sony is NOT an impressive ( only in college) runner and if Bill decides to limit Harris' touches in favor of Sony going foward I would be calling for the firing of Bill.

 

Sony had his chance...and is a fraud, JAG , most WASTED 1st round pick. ever

 

Edited November 6, 2020 by SyNdicateZ

[ThunderDan 155]

24 minutes ago, SyNdicateZ said:

As someone who watches Every Patriots game live, I am VERY confused on your statement suggesting that "Sony was running like a mad dog before he went down."

 It's Harris who has run much harder than Sony in games he played. Sony is NOT an impressive ( only in college) runner and if Bill decides to limit Harris' touches in favor of Sony going foward I would be calling for the firing of Bill.

 

Sony had his chance...and is a fraud, JAG , most WASTED 1st round pick. ever

 

 

This is exactly what I thought.  But then again, I thought we wouldn't be seeing Sony again this year when they put him on IR.  Thought that was the organization turning the page.  Now he's practicing again, and I'm scared they might actually use him even if it's plain enough that Harris is far and away the superior player.

 

[owenmills 5,327]

Honestly I'm probably out on Harris sooner than later, I'm just hoping he can give me a nice game this week. I can't imagine starting this dude in my fantasy playoffs especially if Sony is back by then. 

[ThunderDan 155]

53 minutes ago, owenmills said:

Honestly I'm probably out on Harris sooner than later, I'm just hoping he can give me a nice game this week. I can't imagine starting this dude in my fantasy playoffs especially if Sony is back by then. 

 

Oh for sure. I mean just for this week are we worried about Sony 

[harck 478]

The ideal is that Michel is just maintained for depth in case of injury. We'll see. We'll know more after they activate him off IR, if he becomes a healthy scratch on one of these Sundays.

[MingusDew 407]

LOL of course the one week that it might actually be smart to play Harris Sony Michel could come back.

If Michel plays Harris is useless. God this season sucks.

[owenmills 5,327]

4 minutes ago, ThunderDan said:

Oh for sure. I mean just for this week are we worried about Sony 

Yes, it's definitely unsettling for people who have him slotted in as a starter

[Flyman75 5,091]

1 hour ago, dudewithabadcat said:

 

You probably should be if you own Harris.  Sony was running like a mad dog before he went down.  I expect Sony to get some touches.  Hot hand approach. 

Sony was running, and he was mad because he knew Harris was coming and better than him...and he is a former a Jawja Bulldog.

So yeah, I guess you were right. He was running like a mad dog. 

[nonstopfan 4,593]

1 hour ago, SyNdicateZ said:

As someone who watches Every Patriots game live, I am VERY confused on your statement suggesting that "Sony was running like a mad dog before he went down."

 It's Harris who has run much harder than Sony in games he played. Sony is NOT an impressive ( only in college) runner and if Bill decides to limit Harris' touches in favor of Sony going foward I would be calling for the firing of Bill.

 

Sony had his chance...and is a fraud, JAG , most WASTED 1st round pick. ever

 

Exactly. LMAO. I've owned both and have been following this situation before eventually dropping Michel. I cant recall any moment this year where we could say that Sony was "running like a mad dog". 

Edited November 6, 2020 by nonstopfan

[TheBoondocks 440]

Honestly I have to roll with him but the Sony activation stinks. Just think the kid has done too much to relinquish his current role with the team. 

 

[Flyman75 5,091]

3 minutes ago, nonstopfan said:

Exactly. LMAO. I've owned both and have been following this situation before eventually dropping Michel. I cant recall any moment this year where we could say that Sony was "running like a mad dog". 

I guess he’s referring to the one game Sony “busted” two of the worst long runs I’ve ever seen in my life. Lol! I’ve seen middle school RBs with more speed in the open field lol. 

[SyNdicateZ 1,468]

Sony has no vision. Just look at his eyes...one of them faces the other way. Dude reminds me of Pennywise

Edited November 6, 2020 by SyNdicateZ

[Dirtywater97 1,074]

As much disdain as I have for Sony as a Patriots fan you definitely have to be worried. I would not start if he is active. Makes the floor far too low. Talking about a back that is only hitting about 30% snap share and has a direct threat to his role returning.

I would wait to see how it plays out or move on.

Edited November 6, 2020 by Dirtywater97

[dudewithabadcat 1,078]

3 hours ago, Flyman75 said:

I guess he’s referring to the one game Sony “busted” two of the worst long runs I’ve ever seen in my life. Lol! I’ve seen middle school RBs with more speed in the open field lol. 

 

Yes.  This is what I was referring to.  

[Flyman75 5,091]

5 minutes ago, dudewithabadcat said:

 

Yes.  This is what I was referring to.  

 

Those are the runs that caused Ryan Clark to ask who stole Sony's knees. Lol. 

[hard1 2,468]

May be the last unhindered week to rock him out... 3 td game incoming... then back to the bench...