Vendetta 528 Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 8 minutes ago, Ergogh said: I'm nervous about starting him next week in the finals smh. Why, Russ! Rams looked like doodoo today but Russ hasn't looked like himself since he tried to trademark "Let Russ Cook." What y'all think about next week's matchup? Man he might be a QB2 next week. Rams are going to play angry after being embarrassed by the Jets today. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Boudewijn 4,858 Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 Because of a discussion in the DK Metcalf thread I decided to look into what's wrong with Wilson (if anything). First of all, the number of passa ttempts, his completion% and his QB rating is relatively stable over the season. The yards and TDs howebver are clearly going down. This appears mostly due to throwing less deep: Both average yards and especially abverage air yards is down quite a bit (sorry, I don't have the numbers for week 15 but I suspect they are in line. Another question in that thread was whether the O-line is crap. If you take the number of sacks as an indication of the pressure, then it's probably interesting that Wilson's 41 (untiol week 14) sacks are in the top of the league (highest are the Eagles with 53, lowest the Steelers with 11). On the other hand, that number is more or less in line with the previous years, so I'm not sure if that's such a big difference. O the third hand, Wilson seems this year on target for around 95-100 rushes, which is higher than the past years. So it appears to me that Wilson throws less deep, and takes off faster for a run. Looking the game against Washington, he didn't seem to take off under heavy pressure, if anything it seems he takes a quick look and then takes off if there's nobody close. @Gohawks, does that make sense? 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Boudewijn 4,858 Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Boudewijn said: the number of passa ttempts Edit: holy crap, I seem to have typed most of that post with my forehead. Time for a coffee. Edited December 21, 2020 by Boudewijn 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gohawks 10,434 Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 1 hour ago, Boudewijn said: Because of a discussion in the DK Metcalf thread I decided to look into what's wrong with Wilson (if anything). First of all, the number of passa ttempts, his completion% and his QB rating is relatively stable over the season. The yards and TDs howebver are clearly going down. This appears mostly due to throwing less deep: Both average yards and especially abverage air yards is down quite a bit (sorry, I don't have the numbers for week 15 but I suspect they are in line. Another question in that thread was whether the O-line is crap. If you take the number of sacks as an indication of the pressure, then it's probably interesting that Wilson's 41 (untiol week 14) sacks are in the top of the league (highest are the Eagles with 53, lowest the Steelers with 11). On the other hand, that number is more or less in line with the previous years, so I'm not sure if that's such a big difference. O the third hand, Wilson seems this year on target for around 95-100 rushes, which is higher than the past years. So it appears to me that Wilson throws less deep, and takes off faster for a run. Looking the game against Washington, he didn't seem to take off under heavy pressure, if anything it seems he takes a quick look and then takes off if there's nobody close.@Gohawks, does that make sense? Yes. Couple things: First, the line. The offensive line isn’t bad. It’s just not. Brown is still damn good, Lewis has been an under the radar draft steal, and all the surrounding pieces are serviceable. There was a few week stretch where it was rough due to injuries but they’ve been decent almost all year and are decent now. Wilson is 36th(!) in the NFL in time to throw (amount of time it takes to get rid of the ball from snap). In other words, he holds onto the ball too damn long. Also the fact that he’s all the way 36th should be an indication he’s actually getting some time. I lost count how much times he’s gotten sacked from being indecisive. As for the chart, it’s been clear for a few games now. He went from looking like an MVP to looking like Wentz with horrible decisions and forcing the ball. Now it’s like he is going the opposite way and looks like Bridgewater dumping it off 20 times a game and having everyone be a slant boy. Takes like 1-2 shots all game and that’s it. I love Wilson but this makes no sense. If he’s in his own head or the coaching staff is lost I have no idea. Something is damn wrong because this is the first time I’ve seen Wilson seem like he has zero identity. In terms of fantasy over his last 6 games he has over 250 yards once and double digit TDs twice. Might be streaming options that are better... 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bluntbros 184 Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 He got rocked a few weeks back. I thought for sure he was concussed. He was walking on water before the hit. He seems like a boxer that took a hard uppercut, in round 7, and is just trying to get through the fight without anyone thinking his cage has been rattled. 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Boudewijn 4,858 Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 (edited) 29 minutes ago, bluntbros said: He got rocked a few weeks back. I thought for sure he was concussed. He was walking on water before the hit. He seems like a boxer that took a hard uppercut, in round 7, and is just trying to get through the fight without anyone thinking his cage has been rattled. Do you remember which game? Edit: I googled a bit and I saw a couple brutal hits against the 49ers. Edited December 21, 2020 by Boudewijn Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gohawks 10,434 Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 4 minutes ago, Boudewijn said: Do you remember which game? First Cardinals game he got rocked and looked concussed and since then he’s been pretty bad. That being said blaming a game 2 months ago for why he is playing bad seems like a stretch. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MingusDew 422 Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 (edited) We all saw it coming. Feel like Russ has been riding on the incredible start to his season all year. You cannot trust him in Week 16 against the Rams pass rush. You are better off streaming off of waivers. Edited December 21, 2020 by MingusDew 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pastorofmuppets2 10,716 Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 his dip in numbers/production correlate 100% with his attempt to trademark #letRusscook truth. what a cotdamn circus 🎪 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Flyman75 5,193 Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 20 hours ago, cloudee said: This guy killed me today. I don’t think he can be trusted vs the Rams next week He'll be on my bench for championship week. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bluntbros 184 Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 15 hours ago, Boudewijn said: Do you remember which game? Edit: I googled a bit and I saw a couple brutal hits against the 49ers. I do not remember the opponent. I saw it live on RedZone and immediately started searching for an alternative...just in case. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hank Thunderbolt 47 Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 (edited) Not much faith in Russ here guys. He will be looking to avenge a poor showing against the Rams earlier this season. [...] there are no better options on a really thin waiver wire. Divisional matchup with something to prove. I think he steps up big time. Edited December 22, 2020 by tonycpsu Removed Cool Story Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sasnumberonefan 777 Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 Sucks how far he has fallen this season. From carrying us owners in the first half of the season, to being unstartable in the fantasy playoffs. Unless you have horrid back up options, I wouldn’t play him. Way too risky. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MingusDew 422 Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 12 hours ago, Hank Thunderbolt said: Not much faith in Russ here guys. He will be looking to avenge a poor showing against the Rams earlier this season. [...] there are no better options on a really thin waiver wire. Divisional matchup with something to prove. I think he steps up big time. Your funeral man. He's going to put up 10-15 points again. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TheGhost206 50 Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 21 hours ago, Flyman75 said: He'll be on my bench for championship week. Just curious who your backup is? I'd be looking at Baker Mayfield. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hank Thunderbolt 47 Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 35 minutes ago, MingusDew said: Your funeral man. He's going to put up 10-15 points again. As much as I like your username MingusDew, I disagree. This game is to basically win the division and Russ did not have a good game earlier in the season. He will show up on Sunday. See you back here after the game either way. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fat Clemenza 36 Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 4 minutes ago, Hank Thunderbolt said: As much as I like your username MingusDew, I disagree. This game is to basically win the division and Russ did not have a good game earlier in the season. He will show up on Sunday. See you back here after the game either way. Aaron Donald and gang want to win the division too, although you couldn't tell against the Jets. LOL They are going to be one fired up, angry bunch. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ergogh 41 Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 42 minutes ago, TheGhost206 said: Just curious who your backup is? I'd be looking at Baker Mayfield. Starting Hurts over him in my champ game Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Vendetta 528 Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 1 hour ago, Fat Clemenza said: Aaron Donald and gang want to win the division too, although you couldn't tell against the Jets. LOL They are going to be one fired up, angry bunch. Shouldn't PIT have been fired up the past two weeks by that logic too? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
eg4190 884 Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 22 minutes ago, Vendetta said: Shouldn't PIT have been fired up the past two weeks by that logic too? I was thinking this same thing -- PIT is simply imploding at the wrong time. Maybe the same is true for the Rams. You can't just shake off that humiliating Jets defeat as a bunch of fluky broken plays. The Rams legit looked like they didn't know how to play football on either side of the ball for all four quarters. Maybe Russell proves the haters wrong with a ceiling game. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Boudewijn 4,858 Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 6 hours ago, eg4190 said: I was thinking this same thing -- PIT is simply imploding at the wrong time. Maybe the same is true for the Rams. I think the Steelers were quite meh and lucky to be 11-0. The Rams on the other hand get better every week. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Silkk1211 697 Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 Espn needs to rethink their undroppable list. Especially when it gets late in the season like this. I want to pick up a guy and Rus is literally the only drop I am comfortabe making without it backfiring but he is undroppable!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MingusDew 422 Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 21 hours ago, Hank Thunderbolt said: As much as I like your username MingusDew, I disagree. This game is to basically win the division and Russ did not have a good game earlier in the season. He will show up on Sunday. See you back here after the game either way. They can still win while Russ underperforms for fantasy. I fully expect that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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