Drewfus 128 Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 23 minutes ago, mmb0163 said: You like waiver priority over FAAB because FAAB takes “more time, more research, and more grind?” Legitimate question because I don’t understand...isn’t that what separates great fantasy managers from average fantasy managers? I didn’t get to watch much of Davis but I’d be willing to take chance on him depending on my RB depth. However, I wouldn’t blow a ton of FAAB or a #1 waiver on him if I had decent RB depth. If I owned CMC then that might change my thoughts on that though. Agreed, I hate rolling waivers so much. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DezedandConfused 2,974 Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 (edited) Last time I remember him playing was in '18. He filled in for Carson as the starter (21/101/2 TDs, 4 rec/23 yards [opp:ARI Cardinals]), (11/58 yards, 4 rec/22 yards/1TD [opp:LA Rams] - Rashaad Penny was the starter) Edited September 22, 2020 by DezedandConfused Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CaliBlazer 44 Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 26 minutes ago, mmb0163 said: You like waiver priority over FAAB because FAAB takes “more time, more research, and more grind?” Legitimate question because I don’t understand...isn’t that what separates great fantasy managers from average fantasy managers? I understand that and I agree with it. Just takes fantasy football to a whole new level and next thing you know injuries happen. So you put all this time, research and grind into something that ends up coming down to some luck. You can have the best team every week but luck is huge in fantasy football. I think waiver wire spreads out the talent more. Gives people that dont grind and research as much a chance. For the average fantasy football player, Its easier to read the top waiver wire adds and make your claim, then having to determine what % of FAAB you are going to give to each player. Think of how many people wasted time thinking about Nyheim Hines and how much FAAB to spend, now they want to drop him or will be scared to start him. Less thinking of fantasy football = less stress= being happier. 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mmb0163 32 Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 (edited) 14 minutes ago, CaliBlazer said: I understand that and I agree with it. Just takes fantasy football to a whole new level and next thing you know injuries happen. So you put all this time, research and grind into something that ends up coming down to some luck. You can have the best team every week but luck is huge in fantasy football. I think waiver wire spreads out the talent more. Gives people that dont grind and research as much a chance. For the average fantasy football player, Its easier to read the top waiver wire adds and make your claim, then having to determine what % of FAAB you are going to give to each player. Think of how many people wasted time thinking about Nyheim Hines and how much FAAB to spend, now they want to drop him or will be scared to start him. Less thinking of fantasy football = less stress= being happier. I won’t disagree with you in this regard as that depends on the type of league you’re playing in. I personally prefer to play in a more competitive league where research, time and grind pay off more often than not. Luck is a part of fantasy no matter what type of league you play in, so most would say that is irrelevant. To each their own though, so nothing wrong with disagreeing in that aspect. I apologize if I derailed the thread. Best of luck! Edited September 22, 2020 by mmb0163 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
aapox 896 Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 Listen, we all figure out FAAB is superior at our own rate. It took my casual/home league a couple years of me beating on the door and now everyone loves it. It's all good baby. The real question is, how much FAAB are we spending on this guy? You're looking at a RB2ish with some lumps, granted, for maybe a month. That's pretty nice to have. How bad do you need him? Are you okay with risking a lot of FAAB for the downside of his JAGishness and CMC coming back at some point? Lots to consider. I think I'll make a considerable offer but I also will not be upset if I get outbid. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
aapox 896 Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 1 hour ago, CaliBlazer said: Less thinking of fantasy football = less stress= being happier. This logic is 100% on point. But I'm going to stay in my neurotic over-management mode. I just literally spent an hour on my baseball team and I don't even have any FAAB left. But it's also a week left and I'm 1.5 points out of first. Damn, I went cool story bro. My bad. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AngryBeavers 136 Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 Waiting as long as I can to put a claim in this week. I want to like McKinnon and wonder if CAR brings someone in off the street............. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RoseLin23 436 Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 12 hours ago, WaiverLooter said: I’d say it’s him or McKinnon. With Coleman injured, I think you might get big numbers out of McKinnon but only for 2-3 weeks as opposed to 4-6 out of Davis. Yeah, but Davis is a JAG on an awful offense. McKinnon was signed to be Shanahan's boy toy 2 years ago. Although back from a major injury, dude has fresh legs. And he's going to be used heavily on a team that is 2nd behind only the Ravens in rushing attempts and also will be without Jimmy GQ for a bit. Nobody knows when Mostert and Coleman will be back, and until BOTH are back, I see the Jet being the higher value pickup here. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SyNdicateZ 1,466 Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 Mostert will be back very soon. Not worth a waiver pick over Davis 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FreakFries 1,397 Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 (edited) 11 hours ago, aapox said: Listen, we all figure out FAAB is superior at our own rate. It took my casual/home league a couple years of me beating on the door and now everyone loves it. It's all good baby. The real question is, how much FAAB are we spending on this guy? You're looking at a RB2ish with some lumps, granted, for maybe a month. That's pretty nice to have. How bad do you need him? Are you okay with risking a lot of FAAB for the downside of his JAGishness and CMC coming back at some point? Lots to consider. I think I'll make a considerable offer but I also will not be upset if I get outbid. I’m not crazy about Davis but looking at his career stats it looks like he does catch passes. That’s a big plus even for a JAG in non ppr. He won’t be as effective, but if he fills the CMC role he should be a solid flex/LowRB2. I don’t see a very good ceiling here though. Not sure I want to blow FAAB on a strong flex. I feel like you can find one of those a lot of weeks on the WW. Edited September 22, 2020 by FreakFries 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
affliction 2,172 Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 It’s all about volume and Davis will get plenty. With so many injuries he will be a great RB2 or Flex. In PPR his floor is double digits. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pastorofmuppets2 10,634 Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 Just now, affliction said: It’s all about volume and Davis will get plenty. With so many injuries he will be a great RB2 or Flex. In PPR his floor is double digits. yeah, i can see this. i still think they work Samuel in a bit, as well ... but ol' doctor here can thrive off them Bilgewater check downs - tough spot vs the Bolts, but they may be in for a yuuuuge letdown after leaving it all on the field vs 'Homie, then their numb nutz coach coming out and chucking the kid Herbert under the bus, ergo deflecting from his pussy azz punt in OT. it's doable. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SyNdicateZ 1,466 Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 5 minutes ago, pastorofmuppets2 said: yeah, i can see this. i still think they work Samuel in a bit, as well ... but ol' doctor here can thrive off them Bilgewater check downs - tough spot vs the Bolts, but they may be in for a yuuuuge letdown after leaving it all on the field vs 'Homie, then their numb nutz coach coming out and chucking the kid Herbert under the bus, ergo deflecting from his pussy azz punt in OT. it's doable. What? 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
KidDynamite420 143 Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 Mike Davis has actually been pretty damn good when he has a full workload so not sure what the hate is all about. The Panthers have dubbed him a 'dual-threat' RB and the backup to CMC after a strong training camp. CMC owners should make him a top priority waiver add. Even trade for him if you can because if CMC comes back too early he has a chance of re-injury. Davis' pass catching ability makes him one of the better handcuffs to own at this point. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bandito 2,582 Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 On 9/21/2020 at 2:03 PM, bounce said: At this point, it's just about finding guys who are in line to receive volume. Davis is. If you have the depth to withstand losing someone like CMC, I get it - but I'll take anyone who is going to get PT this week. My starting backfield is now, for the foreseeable future, Michel and Gaskin. I'm throwing a ton down on him because I have no better options.... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Drewfus 128 Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 (edited) On 9/21/2020 at 11:10 PM, CaliBlazer said: I understand that and I agree with it. Just takes fantasy football to a whole new level and next thing you know injuries happen. So you put all this time, research and grind into something that ends up coming down to some luck. You can have the best team every week but luck is huge in fantasy football. I think waiver wire spreads out the talent more. Gives people that dont grind and research as much a chance. For the average fantasy football player, Its easier to read the top waiver wire adds and make your claim, then having to determine what % of FAAB you are going to give to each player. Think of how many people wasted time thinking about Nyheim Hines and how much FAAB to spend, now they want to drop him or will be scared to start him. Less thinking of fantasy football = less stress= being happier. The thing that sucks about waivers is that players who need a particular FA the most might have the lowest chance to get him. Take for example my position right now. Lost Saquon, have 3 RBs on roster and desperately need to add someone like Kelley or McKinnon. But I have waiver priority #9, so I had 0% chance to even get a spare like Freeman. At 0-2, I'm basically toast. With FAAB I probably would have gotten Kelley or McKinnon or Davis and had a chance to at least stay afloat with them, or trade them. Instead, my a**hole league mates snatched those guys up even though they don't need them. Edited September 23, 2020 by Drewfus 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
'71 Bucks 419 Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 19 hours ago, KidDynamite420 said: Mike Davis has actually been pretty damn good when he has a full workload so not sure what the hate is all about. The Panthers have dubbed him a 'dual-threat' RB and the backup to CMC after a strong training camp. CMC owners should make him a top priority waiver add. Even trade for him if you can because if CMC comes back too early he has a chance of re-injury. Davis' pass catching ability makes him one of the better handcuffs to own at this point. Agreed. His offseason and how much praise he got + the confidence they have shown in making him the clear and only backup on gamedays gives me a little more comfort. I used my #1 claim on him (then traded for CMC). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BigNicc 60 Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 Unless you're down to shot-in-the-dark rb depth, is it a wait and see type of week for him? Obviously the touches and efficiency will be a fraction of CMC's. I'd just like to see how he performs and how they use him vs LAC before rolling him out there. Obviously not everyone would have that luxury at this point but Quote Link to post Share on other sites
whitekenyan24 147 Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 I'm not sure why it's unreasonable to expect he should get 15 touches with an outside chance for 20. That's playable in pretty much any league for the next few weeks. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SyNdicateZ 1,466 Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 3 minutes ago, BigNicc said: Unless you're down to shot-in-the-dark rb depth, is it a wait and see type of week for him? Obviously the touches and efficiency will be a fraction of CMC's. I'd just like to see how he performs and how they use him vs LAC before rolling him out there. Obviously not everyone would have that luxury at this point but Start your studs (Now Davis) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ryansm11 2,130 Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 Man, I just dropped 45% FAAB on him in a super competitive 12 team league. Commish just said in the group chat next closest bid was 10%. Am I being trolled or did I make a mistake? Lmao. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Motown_Magic 204 Posted September 23, 2020 Author Share Posted September 23, 2020 12 minutes ago, Ryansm11 said: Man, I just dropped 45% FAAB on him in a super competitive 12 team league. Commish just said in the group chat next closest bid was 10%. Am I being trolled or did I make a mistake? Lmao. I got him at $49 out of $100 in the bank in a 12 team PPR, next highest was $41, $38, $36. I hated spending that much but clearly i wasnt too far off. If he can perform as a mid RB2 with 15-17 touches a game I will take it until CMac returns. Hoping the receptions help his floor. This is not a layup by any means, though. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Deke 1,916 Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 27 minutes ago, BigNicc said: Unless you're down to shot-in-the-dark rb depth, is it a wait and see type of week for him? Obviously the touches and efficiency will be a fraction of CMC's. I'd just like to see how he performs and how they use him vs LAC before rolling him out there. Obviously not everyone would have that luxury at this point but Probably a top 25 RB option this week, so I'd say you're most likely starting him at RB2 or flex, unless you're lucky enough to have depth and weren't affected by injuries Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mjb 808 Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 3 hours ago, '71 Bucks said: Agreed. His offseason and how much praise he got + the confidence they have shown in making him the clear and only backup on gamedays gives me a little more comfort. I used my #1 claim on him (then traded for CMC). You traded who for CMC? Davis😂 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LeeVanCleef 3,717 Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 26 minutes ago, Ryansm11 said: Man, I just dropped 45% FAAB on him in a super competitive 12 team league. Commish just said in the group chat next closest bid was 10%. Am I being trolled or did I make a mistake? Lmao. I got him at $53 (out of $100) in 12 team dynasty (we roster 19 and have 4 IR spots) and next bids were $40, $25, $24, $20. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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