2021 First Round Players

[B&F 941]

On 10/2/2020 at 3:31 PM, Slatykamora said:

Not much of a Baez fan but he's a huge steal in the 6th @ Pick 80

 

For sure.  I am all over that.

 

On 10/2/2020 at 6:30 PM, KingJoffrey said:

Jesus Luzardo seems way too high.  He gives up too many home runs and had a FIP 4.19.  I get that he has potential but so does every pitcher eat him on that list.

 

Concur.

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On 9/30/2020 at 3:10 PM, axiom20XX said:

idk if I ever see him stealing 20 bags. I do agree otherwise tho, i'll be shocked if he doesn't hit around .320 the next few years, would not be surprised in the least bit to see a .330/50/120/.450 season from him.

 .330 / 50?  Soto is a prodigy... but that's some Lou Gehrig kind of voodoo.

I mean, Ken Griffey Jr. reached the 50-homer plateau only twice - and while his discipline isn't on the level of Soto, his swing was far more geared for bombs. 
I agree with the .330 though. He's a sublime hitter. 

*sigh*.... I need to do some pushups.... 

[crotchcrickets 3,227]

1. Randy Arozarena

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everyone else

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Here's the first NFBC draft result of 2021:

NFBC $150 Draft Champions
Round 1:
1 1 Acuna Jr., Ronald OF
1 2 Tatis Jr., Fernando SS
1 3 Betts, Mookie OF
1 4 Cole, Gerrit P
1 5 Bieber, Shane P
1 6 Ramirez, Jose 3B
1 7 Turner, Trea SS
1 8 deGrom, Jacob P
1 9 Soto, Juan OF
1 10 Trout, Mike OF
1 11 Story, Trevor SS
1 12 Yelich, Christian OF
1 13 Bichette, Bo SS
1 14 Bellinger, Cody OF
1 15 Lindor, Francisco SS

Round 2:
2 16 Freeman, Freddie 1B
2 17 Darvish, Yu P
2 18 Albies, Ozzie 2B
2 19 Harper, Bryce OF
2 20 Bauer, Trevor P
2 21 Giolito, Lucas P
2 22 Nola, Aaron P
2 23 Buehler, Walker P
2 24 LeMahieu, DJ 1B
2 25 Machado, Manny CI
2 26 Castillo, Luis P
2 27 Tucker, Kyle OF
2 28 Abreu, Jose 1B
2 29 Kershaw, Clayton P
2 30 Seager, Corey SS

Round 3:
3 31 Robert, Luis OF
3 32 Bregman, Alex 3B
3 33 Anderson, Tim SS
3 34 Bogaerts, Xander SS
3 35 Ozuna, Marcell OF
3 36 Arenado, Nolan UT
3 37 Flaherty, Jack P
3 38 Mondesi, Adalberto SS
3 39 Realmuto, J.T. C
3 40 Merrifield, Whit 2B
3 41 Woodruff, Brandon P
3 42 Scherzer, Max P
3 43 Jimenez, Eloy OF
3 44 Gallen, Zac P
3 45 Glasnow, Tyler P

Round 4:
4 46 Rendon, Anthony 3B
4 47 Devers, Rafael 3B
4 48 Fried, Max P
4 49 Judge, Aaron OF
4 50 Plesac, Zach P
4 51 Biggio, Cavan MI
4 52 Marte, Starling OF
4 53 Springer, George OF
4 54 Maeda, Kenta P
4 55 Burnes, Corbin P
4 56 Gray, Sonny P
4 57 Lamet, Dinelson P
4 58 Torres, Gleyber MI
4 59 Snell, Blake P
4 60 Arozarena, Randy OF

Round 5:
5 61 Urias, Julio P
5 62 Lewis, Kyle OF
5 63 Strasburg, Stephen P
5 64 Voit, Luke 1B
5 65 Grisham, Trent OF
5 66 Baez, Javier SS
5 67 Alonso, Pete CI
5 68 Ryu, Hyun Jin P
5 69 Lynn, Lance P
5 70 Clevinger, Mike P
5 71 Castellanos, Nick OF
5 72 Hendriks, Liam P
5 73 Guerrero Jr., Vladimir 1B
5 74 Hiura, Keston 2B
5 75 Blackmon, Charlie OF

Round 6:
6 76 Meadows, Austin OF
6 77 Hader, Josh P
6 78 Lowe, Brandon MI
6 79 Cruz, Nelson UT
6 80 Hernandez, Teoscar OF
6 81 Suarez, Eugenio CI
6 82 Carrasco, Carlos P
6 83 Alvarez, Yordan UT
6 84 Smith, Dominic OF
6 85 Hand, Brad P
6 86 Marte, Ketel 2B
6 87 Diaz, Edwin P
6 88 Olson, Matt CI
6 89 Conforto, Michael OF
6 90 Anderson, Ian P

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Here's the 1st round of a 12 team draft and hold at the NFBC

1 Acuna 2 Soto 3 Betts 4 Trout 5 Tatis 6 Ramirez 7 Turner 8 Cole 9 Yelich 10 deGrom 11 Bieber 12 Story

[KingJoffrey 922]

Soto going 9th is an abomination.

[turner46 873]

Here's just the first round of the 2nd $150 Draft Champions (50 rounds, draft and hold)

1 Trout 2 Soto 3 Acuna 4 Betts 5 Ramirez 6 Tatis 7 Cole 8 deGrom 9 Turner 10 Bieber 11 Story 12 Yelich 13 Freeman 14 Bauer 15 Darvish

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9 minutes ago, KingJoffrey said:

Soto going 9th is an abomination.

 

 

I agree, but I feel like Trout going 10th is worse.  

[fishingguy12345 131]

Bichette before Lindor feels like a travesty. 

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17 hours ago, fishingguy12345 said:

Bichette before Lindor feels like a travesty. 

I’d take Bichette over Lindor. 

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Seems close, I'd have to think about it, but Bichette was a monster before the injury

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47 minutes ago, brockpapersizer said:

Seems close, I'd have to think about it, but Bichette was a monster before the injury

Yeah, you could tell he wasn't 100% when he came back. 

The thing with Bo is that he's only 22 and going to get better. Lindor is elite, but he is what he is at this point.

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7 minutes ago, NoHablaIngles said:

Yeah, you could tell he wasn't 100% when he came back. 

The thing with Bo is that he's only 22 and going to get better. Lindor is elite, but he is what he is at this point.

 

I wouldn't say Bo is going to get better from the pre injury pace.  Players are peaking earlier and earlier now.  Lindor's career 310/355/466 and the last two full seasons he averaged 35 bombs and 23.5 steals.  I think it's a pretty close decision now, I might say  the Bo side could be riskier since he hasn't done anything over a full season yet....but I do like both guys. Not sure I could fault someone going either way here.

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I should clarify, I don't think he'll be better than his pre-injury pace...I just meant generally, he has room to grow his overall 2020 line.

If he sustains his pre-injury pace, thats a potential #1 overall guy. 

[Fbaseballgod 350]

I feel like I’m on crazy pills any time someone mentions Bichette. I feel like I’m miles lower on him than both the industry and just normal players.  The dude has had 300 major league at bats, isn’t even ++ in any one category, and we’re talking about taking him over a perennial superstar in lindor? 
 

 

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3 hours ago, Fbaseballgod said:

I feel like I’m on crazy pills any time someone mentions Bichette. I feel like I’m miles lower on him than both the industry and just normal players.  The dude has had 300 major league at bats, isn’t even ++ in any one category, and we’re talking about taking him over a perennial superstar in lindor? 
 

 

Feel the same, and I’m from TO. He’s great, but the hype is out of control. He still has a ton to prove before cracking the top 15 IMO. 

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7 hours ago, Fbaseballgod said:

I feel like I’m on crazy pills any time someone mentions Bichette. I feel like I’m miles lower on him than both the industry and just normal players.  The dude has had 300 major league at bats, isn’t even ++ in any one category, and we’re talking about taking him over a perennial superstar in lindor? 
 

 

what category is Mookie Betts ++ in? He’s a career 300 hitter basically same as Bichette. I’ll def give the power nod for Mookie  but he only has 2 seasons above 30 and barely over 30 (I wouldn’t call that ++) Bichette was on pace for 25 for 150 games this season, probably better pre injury pace . Steals feel kinda similar here. Wouldn’t be surprised if either beat the other and i wouldn’t pick either to get 25. Hopefing for 17-22 realistically with a chance for more or less.

Dont get me wrong , I much rather have Mookie but Mookie’s ADP will be considerably higher. 
 

Bichette seems like a five category dude to me and I’m not saying he should be a top 5 guy, but I’m not sure a 14-20 range seems wrong, and I think he could be a top 10 player. Hes a very well rounded category for 5x5.  If some of you need to see him do it for a year, that’s fine. His draft price is high that he’s not a must draft at his ADP.

Edited November 1, 2020 by brockpapersizer

[KingJoffrey 922]

Trout goes 10th, Bo goes 13th...which means, in theory anyways, Mike Trout for Bo Bichette is a fair trade.  Just a few picks apart.  Nobody's trading Trout for Bichette.  In fact I'd go so far as to say in some leagues that gets vetoed.

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1 hour ago, KingJoffrey said:

Trout goes 10th, Bo goes 13th...which means, in theory anyways, Mike Trout for Bo Bichette is a fair trade.  Just a few picks apart.  Nobody's trading Trout for Bichette.  In fact I'd go so far as to say in some leagues that gets vetoed.

I wouldn’t veto it , but I think Trout at 10 is dumb. Would surely want the Trout side l.  Probably still my number one overall. Bo is really good still. Will be interesting to see where his ADP ends up. 

Edited November 1, 2020 by brockpapersizer

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Here's the second NFBC $150 DC of the year:

NFBC $150 Draft Champions
Round 1:
1 1 Tatis Jr., Fernando SS
1 2 Acuna Jr., Ronald OF
1 3 Turner, Trea SS
1 4 Soto, Juan OF
1 5 Cole, Gerrit P
1 6 Betts, Mookie OF
1 7 Trout, Mike OF
1 8 Ramirez, Jose 3B
1 9 Story, Trevor SS
1 10 Bieber, Shane P
1 11 Yelich, Christian OF
1 12 deGrom, Jacob P
1 13 Lindor, Francisco SS
1 14 Bauer, Trevor P
1 15 Buehler, Walker P

Round 2:
2 16 Darvish, Yu P
2 17 Freeman, Freddie 1B
2 18 Bellinger, Cody 1B
2 19 Seager, Corey SS
2 20 Machado, Manny 3B
2 21 Bichette, Bo SS
2 22 Harper, Bryce OF
2 23 Albies, Ozzie 2B
2 24 Bogaerts, Xander SS
2 25 Giolito, Lucas P
2 26 Scherzer, Max P
2 27 Bregman, Alex 3B
2 28 LeMahieu, DJ 1B
2 29 Nola, Aaron P
2 30 Kershaw, Clayton P

Round 3:
3 31 Castillo, Luis P
3 32 Abreu, Jose 1B
3 33 Flaherty, Jack P
3 34 Mondesi, Adalberto SS
3 35 Rendon, Anthony 3B
3 36 Arenado, Nolan 3B
3 37 Tucker, Kyle OF
3 38 Woodruff, Brandon P
3 39 Robert, Luis OF
3 40 Ozuna, Marcell OF
3 41 Gallen, Zac P
3 42 Merrifield, Whit 2B
3 43 Glasnow, Tyler P
3 44 Judge, Aaron OF
3 45 Realmuto, J.T. C

Round 4:
4 46 Voit, Luke 1B
4 47 Anderson, Tim SS
4 48 Maeda, Kenta P
4 49 Biggio, Cavan MI
4 50 Jimenez, Eloy OF
4 51 Plesac, Zach P
4 52 Devers, Rafael 3B
4 53 Grisham, Trent OF
4 54 Snell, Blake P
4 55 Arozarena, Randy OF
4 56 Marte, Starling OF
4 57 Fried, Max P
4 58 Burnes, Corbin P
4 59 Springer, George OF
4 60 Hiura, Keston 2B

Round 5:
5 61 Alonso, Pete 1B
5 62 Torres, Gleyber SS
5 63 Sanchez, Sixto P
5 64 Gray, Sonny P
5 65 Cruz, Nelson UT
5 66 Anderson, Ian P
5 67 Lowe, Brandon 2B
5 68 Guerrero Jr., Vladimir 1B
5 69 Lamet, Dinelson P
5 70 Lynn, Lance P
5 71 Ryu, Hyun Jin P
5 72 Hader, Josh P
5 73 Hendriks, Liam P
5 74 Altuve, Jose 2B
5 75 Bohm, Alec CI

Round 6:
6 76 Hoskins, Rhys UT
6 77 Strasburg, Stephen P
6 78 Hernandez, Teoscar OF
6 79 Clevinger, Mike P
6 80 Carrasco, Carlos P
6 81 Marte, Ketel 2B
6 82 Valdez, Framber P
6 83 Alvarez, Yordan UT
6 84 Wheeler, Zack P
6 85 Walker, Christian 1B
6 86 Bundy, Dylan P
6 87 Conforto, Michael OF
6 88 Lewis, Kyle OF
6 89 Suarez, Eugenio 3B
6 90 Greinke, Zack P

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he first round is very interesting for these early DCs. Check out the latest one:

NFBC $150 Draft Champions
Round 1:
1 1 Trout, Mike OF
1 2 Soto, Juan OF
1 3 Acuna Jr., Ronald OF
1 4 Betts, Mookie OF
1 5 Ramirez, Jose 3B
1 6 Tatis Jr., Fernando SS
1 7 Cole, Gerrit P
1 8 deGrom, Jacob P
1 9 Turner, Trea SS
1 10 Bieber, Shane P
1 11 Story, Trevor SS
1 12 Yelich, Christian OF
1 13 Freeman, Freddie 1B
1 14 Bauer, Trevor P
1 15 Darvish, Yu P

Round 2:
2 16 Giolito, Lucas P
2 17 Buehler, Walker P
2 18 Lindor, Francisco SS
2 19 Bellinger, Cody 1B
2 20 Machado, Manny 3B
2 21 Harper, Bryce OF
2 22 Bichette, Bo MI
2 23 Nola, Aaron P
2 24 Flaherty, Jack P
2 25 Castillo, Luis P
2 26 Mondesi, Adalberto SS
2 27 Tucker, Kyle OF
2 28 Scherzer, Max P
2 29 Kershaw, Clayton P
2 30 Glasnow, Tyler P

Round 3:
3 31 LeMahieu, DJ 1B
3 32 Woodruff, Brandon P
3 33 Bogaerts, Xander SS
3 34 Maeda, Kenta P
3 35 Abreu, Jose 1B
3 36 Gallen, Zac P
3 37 Albies, Ozzie 2B
3 38 Realmuto, J.T. C
3 39 Bregman, Alex 3B
3 40 Arenado, Nolan 3B
3 41 Robert, Luis OF
3 42 Seager, Corey SS
3 43 Rendon, Anthony 3B
3 44 Jimenez, Eloy OF
3 45 Anderson, Tim SS

Round 4:
4 46 Grisham, Trent OF
4 47 Guerrero Jr., Vladimir 1B
4 48 Marte, Starling OF
4 49 Merrifield, Whit 2B
4 50 Ozuna, Marcell OF
4 51 Lynn, Lance P
4 52 Voit, Luke 1B
4 53 Devers, Rafael 3B
4 54 Plesac, Zach P
4 55 Alonso, Pete 1B
4 56 Snell, Blake P
4 57 Burnes, Corbin P
4 58 Olson, Matt 1B
4 59 Hendriks, Liam P
4 60 Lamet, Dinelson P

Round 5:
5 61 Clevinger, Mike P
5 62 Hader, Josh P
5 63 Martinez, J.D. UT
5 64 Hernandez, Teoscar OF
5 65 Springer, George OF
5 66 Strasburg, Stephen P
5 67 Baez, Javier SS
5 68 Biggio, Cavan 2B
5 69 Fried, Max P
5 70 Cruz, Nelson UT
5 71 Carrasco, Carlos P
5 72 Judge, Aaron OF
5 73 Gray, Sonny P
5 74 Wheeler, Zack P
5 75 Ryu, Hyun Jin P

Round 6:
6 76 Arozarena, Randy OF
6 77 Luzardo, Jesus P
6 78 Valdez, Framber P
6 79 Hendricks, Kyle P
6 80 Lopez, Pablo P
6 81 Chapman, Aroldis P
6 82 Urias, Julio P
6 83 Berrios, Jose P
6 84 Moncada, Yoan 3B
6 85 Alvarez, Yordan UT
6 86 Bundy, Dylan P
6 87 Muncy, Max 1B
6 88 Sanchez, Sixto P
6 89 Gurriel Jr., Lourdes OF
6 90 Marte, Ketel 2B

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In the most recent one with Trout going 1st overall 5 pitchers were taken in the 1st round 4 of said owners doubled up with a 2nd in rnd 2.1 of said 4 owners didn't add to his staff, 1 owner started with 3 in the first 4 rounds and stopped (I like his team Cole, Flaherty, Albies, Plesac, Baez and Moncada), picks 14 and 15 4 P  and 3 P through 6 rounds.

They have said once these 3 drafts are finished they'll have their adp up and running, signups are open https://nfc.shgn.com/lobby/baseball

[kmoore1521 1,461]

Early indications are I will be ALL OVER Trout this year, crazy you could actually get him without a top 3-5 pick in 2021

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4 hours ago, kmoore1521 said:

Early indications are I will be ALL OVER Trout this year, crazy you could actually get him without a top 3-5 pick in 2021

 

I still feel like in any serious league Trout will go 1/2

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22 minutes ago, brockpapersizer said:

 

I still feel like in any serious league Trout will go 1/2

I can see a serious argument for taking Betts, Acuna, Soto ahead of him. I don't think I would rank them in that order, but I don't know I would fight it too much if someone else ranked them that way. Then there's always the hype on a Bellinger or some other guy that ends up jumping into the upper tier. Then there's always the owner who takes a deGrom or other top arm. As crazy as it sounds, I can see Trout consistently falling out of the top five.