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Two months ago you wrote "he’s just a fat exciting name who hits the ball on the ground" which is exactly the type of insinuation of which you speak.  

Yeah I think he will be part of the spoiled kids in baseball that don’t amount to much like Cal Ripken Jr, Ken Griffey Jr, Tony Gwynn, Barry Bonds...

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Almost afraid to say anything but it’s been an awesome ride so far.

His double off the RF wall off Trivino was really an impressive swing. 

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On 4/27/2021 at 10:46 PM, brockpapersizer said:

Imagine thinking Vlad would never be good 🐸🍸

I don't think anyone thought or said that. I think everyone knew he COULD break out and be a big star.   It's just, is it wise to pay full price on the assumption he'd break out this year.

So far, so good.  

For the first several years of their careers, it wouldn't have worked for Xander, Buxton, Correa, etc.  And those are the ones who wound up being good players, not even counting the busts.  

Heck, if you bet on Vlad every year, you're still a loooooong way from a profit.

[...] That's the danger with these guys.  If they haven't broken out yet (like Acuna did, pretty much right away), you never know if/when it's gonna come.

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1 hour ago, GamblorLA said:

I don't think anyone thought or said that. 

Yes, it absolutely happened.  Those who didnt pay ADP for him this year? I don't think thats an L at all, that's calculated. Until the week or two before the season, I wouldn't have either and maybe wouldn't have then. I did no redrafts this year. .  There were people who wrote him off in 2019 or earlier. 

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On 4/27/2021 at 10:46 PM, brockpapersizer said:

Imagine thinking Vlad would never be good 🐸🍸

Under .200 in May.

OPS under .600

ground balls galore. I don’t think anyone here would insinuate he’s not good. Your victory lap was premature. 

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19 hours ago, mevins31 said:

Under .200 in May.

OPS under .600

ground balls galore. I don’t think anyone here would insinuate he’s not good. Your victory lap was premature. 

He's had all of 39 plate appearances in May. Launch angle still at 9.8 overall.

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2 hours ago, OaksterDan said:


Two months ago you wrote "he’s just a fat exciting name who hits the ball on the ground" which is exactly the type of insinuation of which you speak.  

There are many more such posts like this and worse throughout the years. 

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For someone who some consider a disappointment until relatively recently (and apparently some again based on this month). And remember, Vlad is still quite young

Vlad's career slash 275/353/457

George Springer career slash 269/360/492  (just signed  a 150 million dollar contract)

Michael Conforto 258/359/479 ( I would guess gets a 100 million from someone unless he's bad ROS, which I would not expect unless injured)

Vlad has already been pretty good for his entire short career, this is the first year he's shown glimpses of being an actual superstar. 

 

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3 hours ago, brockpapersizer said:

For someone who some consider a disappointment until relatively recently (and apparently some again based on this month). And remember, Vlad is still quite young

Vlad's career slash 275/353/457

George Springer career slash 269/360/492  (just signed  a 150 million dollar contract)

Michael Conforto 258/359/479 ( I would guess gets a 100 million from someone unless he's bad ROS, which I would not expect unless injured)

Vlad has already been pretty good for his entire short career, this is the first year he's shown glimpses of being an actual superstar. 

 

dont disrespect vlad and compare him to springer and conforto

 

edit- i understad ur comparing his "underwhelming" career so far to springer.

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9 minutes ago, colepenhagen said:

dont disrespect vlad and compare him to springer and conforto

 

edit- i understad ur comparing his "underwhelming" career so far to springer.

If anything I'm disrespecting the others, but I like them all honestly in their own right. 

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8 minutes ago, brockpapersizer said:

If anything I'm disrespecting the others, but I like them all honestly in their own right. 

? vlad is/was a phenom pujols/miggy comps. not a fringe AS.

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10 minutes ago, colepenhagen said:

? vlad is/was a phenom pujols/miggy comps. not a fringe AS.

Comps are meaningless. Kevin Maitan was a phenom comped to Chipper Jones and Miggy, see how he's doing. Those guys I mentioned are very good hitters in the majors. If Vlad has had a slow start to career and basically in those guys range, it's a positive. 

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28 minutes ago, brockpapersizer said:

Comps are meaningless. Kevin Maitan was a phenom comped to Chipper Jones and Miggy, see how he's doing. Those guys I mentioned are very good hitters in the majors. If Vlad has had a slow start to career and basically in those guys range, it's a positive. 

ik which just shows that those comps are very possible. i think everyone would be shocked if he has a springer/ conforto type career especially since hes doing that at age 21.

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8 minutes ago, colepenhagen said:

ik which just shows that those comps are very possible. i think everyone would be shocked if he has a springer/ conforto type career especially since hes doing that at age 21.

Don't know about surprised at least for me personally, those are good career outcomes for anyone. The way he's hit this year so far is better than them though. I hope he reaches it for sure. He's looked great so far. 

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Spin if you want. He’s stopped hitting. Yes he had a game he had 3 hits. Count it or take it away. He’s going back to... vlad he was 

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