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2 minutes ago, 89Topps said:

Babe Ruth didn't start hitting like that till he stopped pitching.

Eh, yes and no. Obviously there's a tremendous jump in his hitting stats once he stopped pitching, but he did lead the league in HR in his last two seasons as a pitcher. One year was 11 and the other was 29, and then he nearly doubled his HR total the following season. Maybe there were changes in the ball in those particular seasons that led to a HR explosion. Whatever the case, he was a very good hitter while also being a pitcher. 

That said, Ruth as the exception, not the rule, and his stats exploded in 1920 when he basically stopped pitching. And even as the exception, he's an iconic player because of his bat, not his arm. 

Can you imagine owning a player in fantasy who put up his 1920-21 stats...376/.532/.847-158-54-135-14 and .378/.512/.846-177-59-168-17? Holy cow!! Lol!

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Who determines "the way it was meant to be played?" It sounds like you really just mean "the way the game was played when I grew to love it, is the way it should stay forever."  Sorry to be the one to

We really need to get back to this, guys:  (Not sure what is actually happening but HADUKEN!)

You don't actually think that, do you? That seems like a very out of place line of thinking for someone who spends their free time on a fantasy baseball message board. I'm reminded of that scene

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1 hour ago, Flyman75 said:

Can you imagine owning a player in fantasy who put up his 1920-21 stats...376/.532/.847-158-54-135-14 and .378/.512/.846-177-59-168-17? Holy cow!! Lol!

Would have been a hell of a player to own in your dynasty league so long as you didn't play on Yahoo.

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4 hours ago, 89Topps said:

Babe Ruth didn't start hitting like that till he stopped pitching.

He led the league in HR in 1918 and in HR, R, RBI, OBP, SLG in 1919 while also having an ERA of 2.22 in 166 IP and 2.75 in 133 IP, respectively... When the Yanks acquired him in 1920 they nixed his pitching and stuck him in the OF to get him everyday ABs.

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23 minutes ago, jb_power said:

 

of course Roberts would lean that way as the Dodgers have a loaded team.

 

Don Mattingly, Miami Marlins: Obviously, it helps everyone, and it particularly helps us. We've struggled to score runs. That's been a big issue the last couple of years, putting runs on the board. Our lineup is better; it's gotten deeper.

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16 hours ago, jb_power said:

 

of course Roberts would lean that way as the Dodgers have a loaded team.

 

It wouldn't surprise me if every NL manager supported the DH.

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Love the strategy involved here.  Now the Diamondbacks are going to have to be really creative to find replacements.  Maybe they sign Cole Hamels.  Maybe this is Jon Duplainter's big break?  Maybe they open with Chirs Devinski and follow it up with a bullpen game which means more strategy.  Love the strategy of pitchers batting!

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3 minutes ago, kidtwentytwo said:

Love the strategy involved here.  Now the Diamondbacks are going to have to be really creative to find replacements.  Maybe they sign Cole Hamels.  Maybe this is Jon Duplainter's big break?  Maybe they open with Chirs Devinski and follow it up with a bullpen game which means more strategy.  Love the strategy of pitchers batting!

I'm glued to the TV! Then when they have to decide whether or not to pull Hamel in the 4th or not! Ratings will be high for sure.

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Blurb Guy joins in to agree with the DH:

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Zac Gallen has been diagnosed with a hairline stress fracture in his right forearm.

Gallen can continue playing catch through the first phase of his rehab, which is relatively good news, but he'll do so at a "low stress level" and it's clear by now that the 25-year-old right-hander is going to have to miss the early portion of the 2021 regular season. He apparently injured himself while hitting in a batting cage around mid-March, and the D-backs sent him for tests this week because the discomfort had not dissipated. Those tests, and a second opinion, led to the hairline fracture diagnosis. Bring back the universal DH!

Source: Zach Buchanan on Twitter               Mar 23, 2021, 8:22 PM ET

 

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2 hours ago, Hanghow said:

A guy who can't hit in a batting cage without getting hurt isn't the killer argument some people think it is.

All pitchers can't hit. It's a bad argument in the sense that people strongly against it won't change their mind, but it's definitely a good argument. 

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1 hour ago, mudrummer said:

Universal DH can’t get here soon enough…

Concur.  The only reason really being pitcher injuries.  I mean Jimmy Nelson looked like an ace a few seasons ago and was injured running the bases.  Pitching and hitting seem to be completely different motions.  Too much strain.

Although I can't remember this many pitcher injuries 20-30 years ago.

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9 hours ago, posty said:

Surprised this thread wasn't inundated with complaining about how the NL needs to "get with the times" and use the DH...  Of course, he could have hurt it pitching but swinging the bat just exposed it quicker...

Nothing more than a bait post. Unnecessary. 

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6 hours ago, B&F said:

Concur.  The only reason really being pitcher injuries.  I mean Jimmy Nelson looked like an ace a few seasons ago and was injured running the bases.  Pitching and hitting seem to be completely different motions.  Too much strain.

Although I can't remember this many pitcher injuries 20-30 years ago.

Yep the dh dorks always come out the loudest when a pitcher gets hurt batting. DH in the NL will be the death of the sport.  We have to many DH's who can't field run or throw in baseball already. If you can't field one of the 9 fielding positions you don't get to hit. 

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