DiscoNinja33 307 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 Maybe they will share usage, so Kyrie takes a back seat in the last half and Harden will take the shots.. I hope. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
80version 787 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 Not surprised to seeing him defer to the team’s two superstars in his first game as the new guy in town. The balance of usage will even out over time (I think). What you can count on are there being no more 9/25 shooting nights, since there are other elite options to carry weight when he’s not converting makes. The otherworldly FT% impact is probably gone for good too, except the games where Kyrie or KD are rested maybe. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
KingDURANTULA 808 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 he'll do fine but it's obvious that he's no longer a unanimous first pick in fantasy Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hardyharhar 246 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 Shout out to the people who mocked me for saying harden had those big numbers without kyrie. Obviously he's not going to play like this all the time but I'm sure there will be games or halves where he's taking a back seat. Same with kyrie and kd possibly Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Brown_Mamba 40 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 Just waiting for him to explode for 30points in the 4th quarter Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JacobThunder15 321 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 6 minutes ago, Brown_Mamba said: Just waiting for him to explode for 30points in the 4th quarter Think we are going to rarely see those types of games. This is not a good thing for any of the big 3 for their fantasy production Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stickman786 226 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 Just now, JacobThunder15 said: Think we are going to rarely see those types of games. This is not a good thing for any of the big 3 for their fantasy production We seriously need to calm down. watch the game. Hes overly deferring. Harden is not gonna go from averaging 36 points per game to under 20. You'll see at least a 20 10 2 season from him.. which is still 1st round talent. Don't trip. lmao Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JacobThunder15 321 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 Just now, stickman786 said: We seriously need to calm down. watch the game. Hes overly deferring. Harden is not gonna go from averaging 36 points per game to under 20. You'll see at least a 20 10 2 season from him.. which is still 1st round talent. Don't trip. lmao Except this is what people said when Kobe Nash and Dwight were together, same with Wade Bron and Bosh. We are looking at a back end 1st rd guy who was avg the best 2 seasons of fantasy production in history. If there is a top 6 guy you can grab for him id do it in a heartbeat Quote Link to post Share on other sites
apk158 121 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 (edited) He's gone off in the back end of the Nets games so far, no point imploding yet. This stinks of Jimmy Butler in Minnesota when he tried to defer more than score at first...until they weren't winning so he turned it up. The fact that Cleveland is winning right now means he's not gonna sit back and score nothing forever. RELAX Edited January 21 by apk158 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DepressedKnicksFan 26 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 Not a Harden owner but I own KD and Kyrie in two different leagues. And have watched alot of net games. Everyone relax. Harden is moreso playing a Dinwiddie role for them. First time playing together, so hes over facilitating. Deferring and is trying to build chemistry by getting to know the flow of their offense and where and when players like to get their shots. He's still trying to find his rhythm and where his shots will come. Its only game one. Id say expect 20-23 ppg 10apg high reb at SG position. Better efficiency, turnovers progressively going down as he gets more comfortable. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jay_00 259 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 15 minutes ago, JacobThunder15 said: Except this is what people said when Kobe Nash and Dwight were together, same with Wade Bron and Bosh. We are looking at a back end 1st rd guy who was avg the best 2 seasons of fantasy production in history. If there is a top 6 guy you can grab for him id do it in a heartbeat I get what you're saying but they weren't the best seasons in fantasy history. Heck, he's barely in the top 10 of the last 20 years. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
KingDURANTULA 808 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 16 minutes ago, JacobThunder15 said: This is not a good thing for any of the big 3 for their fantasy production Nah KD won't be affected. Steph and Klay didn't stop him from being a consistent top 5 fantasy. He's arguably the best player in the league, let alone the Nets. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stickman786 226 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 19 minutes ago, JacobThunder15 said: Except this is what people said when Kobe Nash and Dwight were together, same with Wade Bron and Bosh. We are looking at a back end 1st rd guy who was avg the best 2 seasons of fantasy production in history. If there is a top 6 guy you can grab for him id do it in a heartbeat What? Nash was 40 years old and no one drafted him in the top 5 rounds. Kobe balled the f out. Dwight played through injury and still averaged 18 12. Wade Bron Bosh made sense. NONE of them could shoot. This is more similar to a klay kd steph situation. They all can shoot. And they'll all be 20 point scorers. lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hardyharhar 246 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 2 minutes ago, KingDURANTULA said: Nah KD won't be affected. Steph and Klay didn't stop him from being a consistent top 5 fantasy. He's arguably the best player in the league, let alone the Nets. I think he'll be the least effected as well but Steph and klay are not kyrie and harden. They aren't iso heavy 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JacobThunder15 321 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 2 minutes ago, KingDURANTULA said: Nah KD won't be affected. Steph and Klay didn't stop him from being a consistent top 5 fantasy. He's arguably the best player in the league, let alone the Nets. The warriors and the nets are two different teams. Warriors play selfless, I dont think Kyrie can and thats eveident in his days in Boston and at the end of CLE. Durant will still be high FG% and FT% but those high assist games are long gone. Its capped the upside of these guys on a game to game basis Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stickman786 226 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 1 minute ago, hardyharhar said: I think he'll be the least effected as well but Steph and klay are not kyrie and harden. They aren't iso heavy True. But they arent bron wade and bosh either... They are alll shooters. Yes, iso heavy. But they can shoot.. it'll take adjustment but that skill alone can make this work. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Brown_Mamba 40 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 He's soo not looking to score a bunch right now. They are definitely going to feel this out for a few games specially Kyrie and Harden. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
crocp 660 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 take this line allllllll day everyyyyyy day! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pattythrills 57 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 1 hour ago, sharkpotato said: You're right. Sorry I'm in a tight race in pts. Hopefully he'll get 20-25 by the end of the night, You good now potato? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
brosephd 1,330 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 complaining about a triple double? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JacobThunder15 321 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 Just now, brosephd said: complaining about a triple double? Took double OT to get it, next game will give us a better indication how he will perform Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sharkpotato 1,178 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 (edited) 46 minutes ago, Pattythrills said: You good now potato? Ehh.. thank god it went to double OT is all i'll say. Edited January 21 by sharkpotato Quote Link to post Share on other sites
G.O.B. 105 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 like i said.. he is gonna be the 3rd best Player on this Team (Fantasy wise) 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DezedandConfused 2,991 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 50 minutes ago, G.O.B. said: like i said.. he is gonna be the 3rd best Player on this Team (Fantasy wise) He'll be the 1st/2nd on total value. Also, any rest days would most likely affect the other two and not Harden. Throughout Kyrie's career, he has missed about 28% of games (536/744 games played). Like others have said, he looked overly passive looking for teammates in the 1st half, which is natural trying to fit into a new team. We may see the 16-17 version of Harden though where he averaged 29 points/ 8 boards/ 11 assists not the 35+ points version. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HerrMcKenzie 186 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 So lets wait like 5 to 10 games to get a better impression of his production. It wont be the norm that Harden takes 14 shots and the other two 25 and 28 (esp Kyrie). Their shot selection will be 18 for Durant and 15 for the other two on average. My prediction is he will still be the best fantasy player on that team (only closely ahead of Durant though) and I expect 29 PTS on 47 % FG, 8 FTA, 3.5 3PM, 7 REB, 9 AST, 2 STL and 0.8 BLK. On another note I really think this is sad for fantasy basketball, as the era of Houston Harden is over and so is the time of all this crazy box scores. For years has been the best fantasy player but that title goes now probalby to the Joker, AD or maybe Durant. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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