giannisforpresident 49 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 15 minutes ago, DezedandConfused said: He'll be the 1st/2nd on total value. Also, any rest days would most likely affect the other two and not Harden. Throughout Kyrie's career, he has missed about 28% of games (536/744 games played). Like others have said, he looked overly passive looking for teammates in the 1st half, which is natural trying to fit into a new team. We may see the 16-17 version of Harden though where he averaged 29 points/ 8 boards/ 11 assists not the 35+ points version. I think this is correct. Harden’s destiny here seems to be lower points but higher assists and efficiency. Not a terrible trade off. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
G.O.B. 105 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 4 hours ago, DezedandConfused said: He'll be the 1st/2nd on total value. Also, any rest days would most likely affect the other two and not Harden. Throughout Kyrie's career, he has missed about 28% of games (536/744 games played). Like others have said, he looked overly passive looking for teammates in the 1st half, which is natural trying to fit into a new team. We may see the 16-17 version of Harden though where he averaged 29 points/ 8 boards/ 11 assists not the 35+ points version. hey, i have harden on my team and i god hope that i'm wrong (and will happily eat crow), but i just don't see it. he is the one who came new to the team and he is playing with two guys who won't defer. yeah his assist numbers will be high, but who the f--- drafted harden for assists? or efficiency? dont get me wrong.. he is still gonna be good and there gonna be nights where he will explode. but like user over me said: the guy we drafted is gone. and that just sucks. yeah there was always the risk of this happening, but him being traded to the nets was the worst case scenario, it is what it is i guess 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ROTY 865 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 It's only 1 game and he's the shy new guy trying not to step on anyone's toes. Just wait for the Beard to unleash again... it'll happen. I think he was trying to keep sooky kyrie happy by feeding him all game. That **** won't last. If Nash wants the most of out them he'll end up staggering them so they'll all eat plenty. Bookmark this. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ez2do4now 209 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 I don't think Harden was deferring but rather, he was getting acclimated with Kyrie and KD. Build chemistry. I am sure he would have taken off if either Kyrie or KD had struggled last night. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
richg24 1,773 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 7 hours ago, DezedandConfused said: He'll be the 1st/2nd on total value. Also, any rest days would most likely affect the other two and not Harden. Throughout Kyrie's career, he has missed about 28% of games (536/744 games played). Like others have said, he looked overly passive looking for teammates in the 1st half, which is natural trying to fit into a new team. We may see the 16-17 version of Harden though where he averaged 29 points/ 8 boards/ 11 assists not the 35+ points version. It will be like AD going to Lakers after his supernova seasons in New Orleans, the dropoff will be significant there is no way it won't be playing with KD and Kyrie. They will all be 1st round values but there will be a lot more variance in their lines than normal, less so with KD but more with Kyrie and Harden. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DezedandConfused 2,997 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 39 minutes ago, richg24 said: It will be like AD going to Lakers after his supernova seasons in New Orleans, the dropoff will be significant there is no way it won't be playing with KD and Kyrie. They will all be 1st round values but there will be a lot more variance in their lines than normal, less so with KD but more with Kyrie and Harden. AD was still ranked #2 in 9 cat last season. This is from 2017-18 and 18-19 This is from last season, the dropoff was not significant. In less minutes, yes he averaged couple less points and boards, but he also put up + 0.3-0.5 3/g, more FTA/g on higher %, similar stocks/g. Like I said before, there will probably be a dropoff in points for Harden he won't be averaging 35+, but he'll make up for it with increase in his other peripheral stats. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
G.O.B. 105 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 there is also gonna be a dropoff in 3pg (so far 3.1 compared to 4.4 and 4.8 in the past two years) and as a FT achor (7.9 fta this year, over 11 fta past 2 years). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
brosephd 1,333 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 philly is so dumb not to trade simmons + for harden. 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DezedandConfused 2,997 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 Look who is resting on a B2B tonight (KD), Harden gonna Harden. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ez2do4now 209 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 22 minutes ago, DezedandConfused said: Look who is resting on a B2B tonight (KD), Harden gonna Harden. Will be interesting to see the Kyrie/Harden tandem without KD 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
KingDURANTULA 812 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 19 pts w/o KD... is it time to panic? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Johnnyapplebot 1,544 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 5 minutes ago, KingDURANTULA said: 19 pts w/o KD... is it time to panic? Its like I said in the Kyrie Irving thread, theres no way Kyrie is gonna defer to Harden if anything hes gonna tell Harden you got traded here cause KD and I wanted you, I am not sacrificing my shots. Obviously Harden is much better than this because I swear in the 4th quarter Irving took like 20 shots while Harden took like 3 so I would say no its not time to panic. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Brown_Mamba 40 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 1 shot attempt first quarter... No, don't give me this Rondo Harden version cmon man Quote Link to post Share on other sites
KingDURANTULA 812 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 Is this the sad reality now ROS? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sharkpotato 1,182 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 I drafted Harden with my second pick and got Ricky Rubio 😂 1 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
EsTiLO 151 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 I’m enjoying the assists but i drafted him for his 3point shooting and points. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Johnnyapplebot 1,544 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 14 minutes ago, EsTiLO said: I’m enjoying the assists but i drafted him for his 3point shooting and points. Doesnt help that the Nets say they are fine with him not shooting the ball because hes observing the entire court looking for the best play. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Quazza 2,353 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 New Jersey, we have a problem .... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
EsTiLO 151 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 This guy going to play Iike this he’s going to be a bust as a first pick Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Johnnyapplebot 1,544 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 6 minutes ago, Quazza said: New Jersey, we have a problem .... they dont have a team. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
EsTiLO 151 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 This dude is not aggressive at all. It’s fine to get others involved but you shouldn’t just stop being aggressive. He’s playing like Lonzo ball out there. It’s shocking to see 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sharkpotato 1,182 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 Harden wtf?? You had a WIDE OPEN shot inside the paint and you decided to dish it off for a turnover.. 🤦♂️ 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
apk158 121 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 He's passing up open shots and has less attempts than Joe Harris and Jeff Green. There's no way this keeps up, Nets fans on other forums are pissed. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RedDogNamedClippers 2,371 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 Look at all these hot takes. Screenshot and come back 2nd half of season. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hardyharhar 246 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 (edited) On 1/16/2021 at 4:15 PM, nospmoht04 said: True, I bet he averages 22 minutes, 14 pts,4 asts, 3 rbs with kyrie On 1/16/2021 at 4:16 PM, DezedandConfused said: Yeah and Joe Harris has 14 points on 9 shots at the half, when he averages 10 per game this season. They're gonna stagger minutes between Kyrie and Harden. On 1/16/2021 at 4:26 PM, crocp said: Ya, he’s a scrub. Once Kyrie comes back harden gonna be averaging 4/4/3 🤡 This is why I don't take fantasy people's opinions seriously. Can't believe you guys thought having kyrie coming back wouldn't effect harden. Literally just watching box scores Edited January 24 by hardyharhar Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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