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3 minutes ago, lethotjames23 said:

 

 

incredible how quick it takes to make some of you guys look absolutely braindead

Thanks for carrying the torch for all of us weary, yet still believing, followers of the Lord.

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1 minute ago, xlosingmyedgex said:

Thanks for carrying the torch for all of us weary, yet still believing, followers of the Lord.

lol, i just love the overreactions with guys who aren't volume scorers. we got some real novices on the forums

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1 hour ago, lethotjames23 said:

 

 

incredible how quick it takes to make some of you guys look absolutely braindead

He's been a mess all year. Mavs are atrocious defensively any of us could drop a bucket on them 

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29 minutes ago, lethotjames23 said:

he's top 70 on the season despite his struggles offensively you buffoon

Lol calm down bro, Roco has been extremely inconsistent throughout the season and a lot of people are justifiably displeased. Not sure why you're taking it so personally. 

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1 minute ago, fabrar said:

Lol calm down bro, Roco has been extremely inconsistent throughout the season and a lot of people are justifiably displeased. Not sure why you're taking it so personally. 

lol not taking it personal at all, its just silly. top 70 is top 70. not sure what more you can want from the guy

 

really the "frustration" you think i'm feeling is a general annoyance with people who don't understand the value of guys who aren't consistent scorers

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39 minutes ago, Crazycanto said:

This thread has to become more fun again

I'm done drafting him if this thread doesn't turn around soon. I can only tolerate rebellious, faithless heathens for so long. 

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22 minutes ago, lethotjames23 said:

lol not taking it personal at all, its just silly. top 70 is top 70. not sure what more you can want from the guy

 

really the "frustration" you think i'm feeling is a general annoyance with people who don't understand the value of guys who aren't consistent scorers

Ahhhh that's why he keeps arguing with everyone about rocos two weeks of being average and not a just a pile of poo. He's "not sure" so clearly he can't read, guys. 

To help you out. Top 70 is top 70. But the guys who are salty about him being top 70 are the guys who drafted him in the top 40 😂 hope you get it now - reasonable for people to "want more from a guy" they drafted 30 spots before the value he's been providing.

It's funny because in the mpj thread all people do is complain about the minutes turning a blind eye to his defense and the direct affect it has had on the teams Ws and Ls so far this season. Yet he's posting top 35 value on the season even though ppl probably drafted him in the 4th round at best.

Also yes you don't draft Roco for the points. But 10% difference in fg% and half a block and 1 rebound less this season is a huge difference for someone whose usually ranked top 40 as a low ppg specialist.

I don't really care how he's played this year if I'm honest cuz I've managed to lead all season thus far in my league. But it's funny seeing you defend Roco even though he's been completely a** cheeks this year so far. You can say slow start or whatever but realistically 20+ games in is almost a third of the year for this season and he's only had more opportunity with nurk and cj out and has barely made any improvement considering that. 

So I think the frustration is fully warranted

 

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49 minutes ago, lethotjames23 said:

lol not taking it personal at all, its just silly. top 70 is top 70. not sure what more you can want from the guy

 

really the "frustration" you think i'm feeling is a general annoyance with people who don't understand the value of guys who aren't consistent scorers

Well for one most people drafted him in round 5ish so he's already not meeting his ADP. And it also has nothing to do with his volume scoring. Literally zero people are expecting him to score in the mid teens or something. But he's barely even hitting 10 ppg on a regular basis. His fg is also down considerably, as are his blocks rate. 

That's multiple categories where he's been struggling more than in years past, not to mention games where he does almost nothing. So yeah people have a lot to be upset about. A few good games here and there doesn't change how bad he's been most of the season. 

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This thread should only be 4 posts:

"He's slumping harder than usual to start the season with his new team"

"Yeah, it sucks"

"He's doing a lot better now"

"Cool"

 

Most everything else is fluff.

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1 hour ago, TheBigSlick said:

Ahhhh that's why he keeps arguing with everyone about rocos two weeks of being average and not a just a pile of poo. He's "not sure" so clearly he can't read, guys. 

To help you out. Top 70 is top 70. But the guys who are salty about him being top 70 are the guys who drafted him in the top 40 😂 hope you get it now - reasonable for people to "want more from a guy" they drafted 30 spots before the value he's been providing.

It's funny because in the mpj thread all people do is complain about the minutes turning a blind eye to his defense and the direct affect it has had on the teams Ws and Ls so far this season. Yet he's posting top 35 value on the season even though ppl probably drafted him in the 4th round at best.

Also yes you don't draft Roco for the points. But 10% difference in fg% and half a block and 1 rebound less this season is a huge difference for someone whose usually ranked top 40 as a low ppg specialist.

I don't really care how he's played this year if I'm honest cuz I've managed to lead all season thus far in my league. But it's funny seeing you defend Roco even though he's been completely a** cheeks this year so far. You can say slow start or whatever but realistically 20+ games in is almost a third of the year for this season and he's only had more opportunity with nurk and cj out and has barely made any improvement considering that. 

So I think the frustration is fully warranted

 

Now we have an actual discussion.

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it comes down to league size and where that team drafted roco. it is a verryyyyy different discussion dependant on league size. if you're in a shallow league for example and this week (before today) he goes 5,5 and 3 points with a total of 2 steals and 4 blocks across 3 games. so 13 points, 20 boards, 6 assists, 2 steals and 4 blocks for 3 games? pretty sure you can stream that in a shallow league and if you don't, combined with bad fg% could actually cost you a matchup. deeper leagues def not, and yes if someone drafted him top 60 you're going to want more. not a big fan of ratings and saying top 70 is top 70, can be heavily weighted. eg. by that theory holmes is a top 40 (38) player due mainly to his fg, but would you take him over tatum whos 39, or capela at 48 ? probably not. you certainly wouldnt get a trade based off those rankings. fact of matter is, you cant carry a "stocks monster" that is averaging 1.6 steals and 0.6 blocks per game but only 7/6/2 in a small league IMO (also thats off espn ratings, in that roco is 116)

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4 hours ago, TheBigSlick said:

Ahhhh that's why he keeps arguing with everyone about rocos two weeks of being average and not a just a pile of poo. He's "not sure" so clearly he can't read, guys. 

To help you out. Top 70 is top 70. But the guys who are salty about him being top 70 are the guys who drafted him in the top 40 😂 hope you get it now - reasonable for people to "want more from a guy" they drafted 30 spots before the value he's been providing.

It's funny because in the mpj thread all people do is complain about the minutes turning a blind eye to his defense and the direct affect it has had on the teams Ws and Ls so far this season. Yet he's posting top 35 value on the season even though ppl probably drafted him in the 4th round at best.

Also yes you don't draft Roco for the points. But 10% difference in fg% and half a block and 1 rebound less this season is a huge difference for someone whose usually ranked top 40 as a low ppg specialist.

I don't really care how he's played this year if I'm honest cuz I've managed to lead all season thus far in my league. But it's funny seeing you defend Roco even though he's been completely a** cheeks this year so far. You can say slow start or whatever but realistically 20+ games in is almost a third of the year for this season and he's only had more opportunity with nurk and cj out and has barely made any improvement considering that. 

So I think the frustration is fully warranted

 

 

i'm NOT SURE where you got the can't read thing from. if top 40 in the entire league for the past 2 weeks is average to you, then idk what to tell you. and honestly, if you drafted him in the top 40 that's laughable. he's a steals specialist that hits 3s and gets rebounds. that's it. and when he's on, it leads to a  very valuable player. but you don't draft him in the top 40, lol. you get consistent guys with big roles in their offense that early on and fill out your roster with covington types later. if he doesn't last to the later rounds, he has no draft value, imo. too inconsistent, and yeah that will lead to feeling disappointment

 

if i have a guy that's top 70 on the year and he's been complete a** cheeks (literally just missing shots), like you say, i would feel pretty confident that  it's not gonna take a whole lot for him to come around.

 

it's not about defending him personally. its just ridiculous to see people calling a guy who is top 70 on the season droppable. that's legit braindead level stuff. don't care if you agree or not, thats just the truth.

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4 hours ago, fabrar said:

Well for one most people drafted him in round 5ish so he's already not meeting his ADP. And it also has nothing to do with his volume scoring. Literally zero people are expecting him to score in the mid teens or something. But he's barely even hitting 10 ppg on a regular basis. His fg is also down considerably, as are his blocks rate. 

That's multiple categories where he's been struggling more than in years past, not to mention games where he does almost nothing. So yeah people have a lot to be upset about. A few good games here and there doesn't change how bad he's been most of the season. 

i mostly am talking about people who are crying about dropping him. i find that ridiculous. sue me lol

 

if you can't agree that dropping a guy who has top 70 value in the entire league is dumb, you're probably dumb yourself

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21 minutes ago, lethotjames23 said:

it's not about defending him personally. its just ridiculous to see people calling a guy who is top 70 on the season droppable. that's legit braindead level stuff. don't care if you agree or not, thats just the truth.

What the haters in this thread don't get is that no one here was ever saying you can't complain about your players performing up to ADP. What lethotjames and I and a few others in here are criticizing is people saying he's a drop. People in this thread were legit saying he was a drop 10-15 games into the season because he wasn't playing great lol That's obviously ridiculous and a surefire way to lose in fantasy.

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5 hours ago, lethotjames23 said:

i mostly am talking about people who are crying about dropping him. i find that ridiculous. sue me lol

 

if you can't agree that dropping a guy who has top 70 value in the entire league is dumb, you're probably dumb yourself

For a lot of people who drafted well, roco might be the worst player on their team - he is for me, by far, top 70 or otherwise. The rankings aren't some commandment that you have to live or die by lol. And in 10 teamers there are waiver players that are performing better. The ranking is heavily inflated by his steal numbers and you're not taking into account him sucking elsewhere. 

If you don't understand that, you're probably a braindead idiot. But hey by all means, enjoy foaming at the mouth defending a guy avging 8 ppg on like 35% shooting. Maybe the rest of your team is just that bad lol 😂 

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1 hour ago, fabrar said:

For a lot of people who drafted well, roco might be the worst player on their team - he is for me, by far, top 70 or otherwise. The rankings aren't some commandment that you have to live or die by lol. And in 10 teamers there are waiver players that are performing better. The ranking is heavily inflated by his steal numbers and you're not taking into account him sucking elsewhere. 

If you don't understand that, you're probably a braindead idiot. But hey by all means, enjoy foaming at the mouth defending a guy avging 8 ppg on like 35% shooting. Maybe the rest of your team is just that bad lol 😂 

a steals specialists ranking is heavily inflated by his steals numbers?

 

holy ****, we have a genius on our hands here fellas

 

if you acquired him not knowing he's gonna be inconsistent in other areas that is a you problem. no one is defending him as some great player man. get that out your head. this is a numbers game. they don't lie. he's top 70. stop being emotional

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1 hour ago, fabrar said:

For a lot of people who drafted well, roco might be the worst player on their team - he is for me, by far, top 70 or otherwise. The rankings aren't some commandment that you have to live or die by lol. And in 10 teamers there are waiver players that are performing better. The ranking is heavily inflated by his steal numbers and you're not taking into account him sucking elsewhere. 

If you don't understand that, you're probably a braindead idiot. But hey by all means, enjoy foaming at the mouth defending a guy avging 8 ppg on like 35% shooting. Maybe the rest of your team is just that bad lol 😂 

also. wouldn't i be more like you guys who are crying about his lack of production in other areas if my team was struggling? lol. i bought low on him and am tied for the best record in my league. use that big boy brain up there

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