Johnnyapplebot 1,544 Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 Was great 2 years ago and last season in 9 games posted 18.1 ppg 11.4 rpg 4.2 apg 1.2 steals 2 blocks on great percentages. Where are we taking him this year? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Impeccable 25 Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 Yahoo currently has him at $4 in auction. I'd probably go 3x that amount 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tazdingo 363 Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 I'm all in in him as long as Whiteside is out of the picture. Just did a mock draft where he was taken at the 9th round (I can't believe I missed him there). While I don't think he'll end up being picked up there, I have this suspicion that he might be had at the 5th-6th round with people forgetting his value from 2 seasons ago. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DonutGiveUp 2,033 Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 Im grabbing him everywhere i can he will go off 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Johnnyapplebot 1,544 Posted November 20, 2020 Author Share Posted November 20, 2020 enes kanter traded to portland which means hassan whiteside wont be back. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fabrar 2,833 Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 He's in for a big season. Looked really good in the bubble, been getting better every season and it seems like Whiteside is on his way out. He's a comfortable top 50 guy imo 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Johnnyapplebot 1,544 Posted November 20, 2020 Author Share Posted November 20, 2020 36 minutes ago, fabrar said: He's in for a big season. Looked really good in the bubble, been getting better every season and it seems like Whiteside is on his way out. He's a comfortable top 50 guy imo The way he played two years ago and the way he played in the bubble he looks like a top 30 player. The few mock drafts I’ve done people have not been sleeping on him and have actively gotten him round 5. Might have to get him round 4 if you want to play it safe on draft day. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ROTY 863 Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 Fwiw I grabbed him at #36 in a dynasty draft. His roles has expanded, he's improved everywhere, looks in shape, attempting 3s, and to me is the 2nd most important player on the team (leap frogging CJ). Id feel comfortable grabbing him late 3rd. He's like the Bosnian Bam (lite) 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
J.T. Marlin 972 Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 1 hour ago, ROTY said: Fwiw I grabbed him at #36 in a dynasty draft. His roles has expanded, he's improved everywhere, looks in shape, attempting 3s, and to me is the 2nd most important player on the team (leap frogging CJ). Id feel comfortable grabbing him late 3rd. He's like the Bosnian Bam (lite) Nurk actually put up considerably better overall fantasy stats than Bam in the limited games he played last season. If the MPG stay in the low 30’s, he’s got a good chance to put up top 20 #’s. Hardly anyone will be ranking or drafting him as such. Big time sleeper relative to ADP IMO. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Espoiral 478 Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 (edited) Have seen him go anywhere from Round 4-7 in Yahoo mocks. Really love him and he's probably the best big man outside of the Gobert/Vucevic tier (probably is in that tier anyway) - I might have to reach Round 4, maaaaaaybe Round 3. What he put up in that 9 game sample size is tantalizing. Top 10 in punt assist. Edited November 21, 2020 by Espoiral 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Stefan 1,164 Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 2 hours ago, ROTY said: He's like the Bosnian Bam (lite) ahhahahaha to true Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MrCantaloupe 569 Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 I wish he showed an ability to avoid foul trouble. His career 4.8 fouls per 36 min scares the hell out of me. In limited time last year, that number jumped to 5.6 fouls - Mitchell Robinson territory. I dunno if he can break 30 mpg this year, and that's a shame. That, and his FG% could dip into the 46% range if he continues to chuck inefficient 3s (~25%). Other than that, I love what he's done with his free throw percentage: 2014 - 2018: 61.2% 2018 pre-allstar break: 74.9% 2018 post-allstar break: 84.4% 2019 bubble: 88.6% I'm conservatively projecting 47% FG, 78% FT, 0.5 3s, 15.5 PTS, 10 REB, 3.5 AST, 1.1 STL, 1.4 BLK, 2.5 TO - pretty nice for a 4th-5th round pick, but the foul trouble will cap his upside. Let's hope he stays healthy and his FT% does not regress! 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
My Dinner With Andre 5,805 Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 19 minutes ago, MrCantaloupe said: I wish he showed an ability to avoid foul trouble. His career 4.8 fouls per 36 min scares the hell out of me. Hard pass for me because of this. I’m sure I will be accused of being shortsighted, but I can’t invest that high of a pick on a guy with such limited minutes-upside. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tazdingo 363 Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 2 hours ago, MrCantaloupe said: I wish he showed an ability to avoid foul trouble. His career 4.8 fouls per 36 min scares the hell out of me. In limited time last year, that number jumped to 5.6 fouls - Mitchell Robinson territory. I dunno if he can break 30 mpg this year, and that's a shame. That, and his FG% could dip into the 46% range if he continues to chuck inefficient 3s (~25%). Other than that, I love what he's done with his free throw percentage: 2014 - 2018: 61.2% 2018 pre-allstar break: 74.9% 2018 post-allstar break: 84.4% 2019 bubble: 88.6% I'm conservatively projecting 47% FG, 78% FT, 0.5 3s, 15.5 PTS, 10 REB, 3.5 AST, 1.1 STL, 1.4 BLK, 2.5 TO - pretty nice for a 4th-5th round pick, but the foul trouble will cap his upside. Let's hope he stays healthy and his FT% does not regress! Problem is he's not going in the 4th round anymore. People have caught on in mock drafts and he's going late 2nd-early 3rd, especially when people run out of bigs at the start of the 3rd round. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
summersoff7 1,106 Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 I just did a mock where he went 30th overall. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SilenceTS 3 Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 On 12/1/2020 at 7:29 PM, summersoff7 said: I just did a mock where he went 30th overall. His ADP is going up Daily. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Impeccable 25 Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 He went for $25 in my last auction. I went $24... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Johnnyapplebot 1,544 Posted December 2, 2020 Author Share Posted December 2, 2020 Yeah for us who like to actually wait closer to the season to draft, the secret is out. Every mock draft I’ve done the last 3 days he goes early third round every time. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
summersoff7 1,106 Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 1 hour ago, Johnnyapplebot said: Yeah for us who like to actually wait closer to the season to draft, the secret is out. Every mock draft I’ve done the last 3 days he goes early third round every time. well with Porz and JJJ out for while, you pretty much have to. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Johnnyapplebot 1,544 Posted December 2, 2020 Author Share Posted December 2, 2020 27 minutes ago, summersoff7 said: well with Porz and JJJ out for while, you pretty much have to. Yup basically if you ending up with like pick 8 in first round either you reach in early second or make peace that he won’t fall to you for your third pick. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
summersoff7 1,106 Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 8 minutes ago, Johnnyapplebot said: Yup basically if you ending up with like pick 8 in first round either you reach in early second or make peace that he won’t fall to you for your third pick. I pick ninth and I just did a mock where for the first time he fell to me at pick 33 in the 3rd. first out of 10-15 mocks maybe. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PUNTSQUAD 173 Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 (edited) I'm seeing his ADP falling in mid 3rd round. That's just too high for me, I feel like people are using his per game #s from last season's miniscule sample size during bubble seeding games and then amplifying them due to Whiteside leaving. In 13 total bubble games (8 seeding, 5 playoffs) Nurkic posted averages of 16.3 PTS, 10.3 REB and 1.3 BLK with 3.8 AST. Yes, Whiteside is out of the picture but Nurkic was still getting 32 MPG with Whiteside and his foul rate makes it unlikely that he increases those MPG by any substantial degree Edited December 3, 2020 by PUNTSQUAD Quote Link to post Share on other sites
apatas 439 Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 4 minutes ago, PUNTSQUAD said: I'm seeing his ADP falling in mid 3rd round. That's just too high for me, I feel like people are using his per game #s from last season's miniscule sample size during bubble seeding games and then amplifying them due to Whiteside leaving. In 13 total bubble games (8 seeding, 5 playoffs) Nurkic posted averages of 16.3 PTS, 10.3 REB and 1.3 BLK with 3.8 AST. Yes, Whiteside is out of the picture but Nurkic was still getting 32 MPG with Whiteside and his foul rate makes it unlikely that he increases those MPG by any substantial degree Why he is not a TOP30 guy? Who then is if not Nurkic? 3rd round is not early, 2nd round is early for picking him. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tazdingo 363 Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 What Johnnyapplebot said. There's no way you're getting him past the 3rd round now. You'd literally need guys like MPJ, Lonzo Ball, Christian Wood, and others to be taken in rounds 2-3 for Nurk to fall in the late 3rd and onwards. And if you're in a league like that, you're basically running away with the trophy barring injuries. 12 hours ago, Johnnyapplebot said: Yup basically if you ending up with like pick 8 in first round either you reach in early second or make peace that he won’t fall to you for your third pick. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PUNTSQUAD 173 Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 18 minutes ago, apatas said: Why he is not a TOP30 guy? Who then is if not Nurkic? 3rd round is not early, 2nd round is early for picking him. I do think Nurk can return top 30 value depending on your league. But to me, that's his ceiling while his floor is still limited by foul rate and injury concerns imo. I don't typically use top 3 round picks on guys based on their perceived ceiling 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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