RedDogNamedClippers 2,374 Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 Now that we are removed from his fantastic performance during the playoffs. His epic performance to lead the Nuggets back from 3-1 against Pandemic P and Board Man. What do we expect for him during the regular season? Pending Gary Harris and Will Barton is healthy will that effect where we draft Murray? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DonutGiveUp 2,163 Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 Tends to be a slow starter in the regular season. A fully healthy Nuggets team has too many mouths to feed. Murray, Joker, MPJ, Grant (if he stays), Barton and Harris Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Stefan 1,189 Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 @RedDogNamedClippers I have nothing against the guy. Very good fantasy and real life combo guard, but I'm not targeting him this year. 1) Ranked a bit too high at 37 and 2nd kinda tired of drafting him. Had him in my team 3 out of his 4 years in the league. In that range I like SGA, CP3, D.Mitchell, VanVleet more 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RedDogNamedClippers 2,374 Posted November 20, 2020 Author Share Posted November 20, 2020 34 minutes ago, Stefan said: @RedDogNamedClippers I have nothing against the guy. Very good fantasy and real life combo guard, but I'm not targeting him this year. 1) Ranked a bit too high at 37 and 2nd kinda tired of drafting him. Had him in my team 3 out of his 4 years in the league. In that range I like SGA, CP3, D.Mitchell, VanVleet more Agreed, I saw Yahoo rankings and thought it was a tad bit too high. Right now I have him at at about 43-47ish and even then that is still kind of pushing it for me. Overall he was 5th round so drafting him at 37 is his absolute ceiling. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fabrar 2,879 Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 He was incredible in the playoffs, no doubt, but thus far, he hasn't shown that he's that player consistently in the regular season. I think people will reach and be disappointed in the 2nd-3rd rounds. I'd prefer to grab him in the 5th round or something but doubt he falls that far 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
apatas 439 Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 Why you don't believe what you saw in play-off? In my rank he is 3rd round player. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Stefan 1,189 Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 23 minutes ago, apatas said: Why you don't believe what you saw in play-off? In my rank he is 3rd round player. Beacause he won't be playing 44minutes a game and have 20 shots Forget what u saw in the playoffs. Just forget about playoffs in general . U can't equal = playoffs and regular season 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
apatas 439 Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 2 minutes ago, Stefan said: Beacause he won't be playing 44minutes a game and have 20 shots Forget what u saw in the playoffs. Just forget about playoffs in general . U can't equal = playoffs and regular season Yes, it is true that play-off stats are more polarized usually, but still Murray has taken a step forward. He can be TOP40 player, he has potential. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
indigorivers 399 Posted December 26, 2020 Share Posted December 26, 2020 well this shouldn't be buried so deep after tonight Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bballshinobi 1,464 Posted December 26, 2020 Share Posted December 26, 2020 Denver still playing equality opportunity basketball instead of trying to feature their best players since the regular season doesn’t matter. Murray won’t blow up like he did in the playoffs. Monte Morris and will Barton touch the ball more than him. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
c_dog 156 Posted December 26, 2020 Share Posted December 26, 2020 Trying to buy low but owners are smarter than that.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gregp 112 Posted December 26, 2020 Share Posted December 26, 2020 14 hours ago, bballshinobi said: ..since the regular season doesn’t matter. Lol, hate it when ppl say stuff like this. Obv the regular season matters, can't make the playoffs w/o doing well in regular season. Nugs are 0-2, and im sure they realize they need to win to stay relevant in the super competitive West. They know who their studs are and who will help them win, and murray is at the top of that list. I dont think he is super elite, but 20/5/5 is very reasonable, w/ solid %s and 3s and some steals. Sure he'll have the occasional dud, but he'll also have games like last night where he catches fire, or even games where he drops 40. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bballshinobi 1,464 Posted December 26, 2020 Share Posted December 26, 2020 26 minutes ago, gregp said: Lol, hate it when ppl say stuff like this. Obv the regular season matters, can't make the playoffs w/o doing well in regular season. Nugs are 0-2, and im sure they realize they need to win to stay relevant in the super competitive West. They know who their studs are and who will help them win, and murray is at the top of that list. I dont think he is super elite, but 20/5/5 is very reasonable, w/ solid %s and 3s and some steals. Sure he'll have the occasional dud, but he'll also have games like last night where he catches fire, or even games where he drops 40. 18-20 with 5 and 5 is his baseline. He can, however, do 27, 5, and 7 as he did in the playoffs., but looks like he and Mike Malone are content to just let him drift around on the perimeter most of the game and let Morris and Barton run pick & roll. For a good team like the Nuggets, regular season is just a formality. They go 100% and they will win 54-58 games (out of 82), but going 90% will still get them 53-56 wins. Regular season only matters to the fringe playoff teams. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gregp 112 Posted December 26, 2020 Share Posted December 26, 2020 6 minutes ago, bballshinobi said: 18-20 with 5 and 5 is his baseline. He can, however, do 27, 5, and 7 as he did in the playoffs., but looks like he and Mike Malone are content to just let him drift around on the perimeter most of the game and let Morris and Barton run pick & roll. For a good team like the Nuggets, regular season is just a formality. They go 100% and they will win 54-58 games (out of 82), but going 90% will still get them 53-56 wins. Regular season only matters to the fringe playoff teams. Well, like I said, they're 0-2, and kinda look like a fringe playoff team rn. Hopefully they realize they need Murray to ball out often if they want any shot at a deep playoff run again. Otherwise, if they go '90%', they're gonna wind up in bottom part of playoffs and knocked out early. Theres just too many good teams out west. Only the lakers and clips are true playoff locks, nearly every other team is a 'fringe' playoff team. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bballshinobi 1,464 Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 6 hours ago, gregp said: Well, like I said, they're 0-2, and kinda look like a fringe playoff team rn. Hopefully they realize they need Murray to ball out often if they want any shot at a deep playoff run again. Otherwise, if they go '90%', they're gonna wind up in bottom part of playoffs and knocked out early. Theres just too many good teams out west. Only the lakers and clips are true playoff locks, nearly every other team is a 'fringe' playoff team. Uh no, they will make the playoffs as long as Murray and Jokic don’t miss more than 100 games combined. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gregp 112 Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 7 minutes ago, bballshinobi said: Uh no, they will make the playoffs as long as Murray and Jokic don’t miss more than 100 games combined. Yea, it's highly unlikely that a team that talented doesnt make the playoffs. But they still needa play better, and win. Which should mean more usage for Murray Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bballshinobi 1,464 Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 40 minutes ago, gregp said: Yea, it's highly unlikely that a team that talented doesnt make the playoffs. But they still needa play better, and win. Which should mean more usage for Murray Yes, highly likely that Mike Malone will tax the hell out of his two superstars so Denver can win a couple more games in the regular season. The Nuggets doesn't have much depth at every position. It's not a marathon and they won't lean on their depth after playing in the West Conference Finals just 3 months ago. Load management is definitely not a thing in the NBA. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gregp 112 Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 31 minutes ago, bballshinobi said: Yes, highly likely that Mike Malone will tax the hell out of his two superstars so Denver can win a couple more games in the regular season. The Nuggets doesn't have much depth at every position. It's not a marathon and they won't lean on their depth after playing in the West Conference Finals just 3 months ago. Load management is definitely not a thing in the NBA. Dude, if they dont use their best players properly they wont win enough, and wont get a decent playoff seed. After the lakers and clips the west is wide open, you don't wanna be the 7 or 8 seed and face either of them 1st rnd. They need a 6th seed or better if they want a chance at a playoff run, and murray is crucial to making sure this happens. Theres only 72 games this year, so each game is a little bit more important. I'm sure they might rest Murray for a few games, but full on load management seems unlikely. Hes 23, not 33. I dont expect him to put up his bubble numbers or for malone to 'tax the hell' out of him, but something close to what he did last night should be a regularity. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mtx 164 Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 Apparently he got hurt??? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bballmaster 32 Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 (edited) 1 minute ago, mtx said: Apparently he got hurt??? bro. you got to specific....where and how? source? *it seems like he got hit and may be being evaluated for a concussion. Edited December 29, 2020 by bballmaster Quote Link to post Share on other sites
justaguy 280 Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 He left the game with a head contusion but is back in. Nothing to worry about 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bballmaster 32 Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 Just now, justaguy said: He left the game with a head contusion but is back in. Nothing to worry about Yep. hes back in the game. i hate when people just say Sh*t like that without context. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
c0penhagen 30 Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 Anyone have any insight why this guys only been decent this year? I obviously had higher hopes for him after last playoffs and drafting him 34th Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JoeNoIngles 71 Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 They are running the offense exclusively thru jokic. I think Jamal is a lil butt hurt and unmotivated because of it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DezedandConfused 3,022 Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 Like Nurk, too many people drafted for inflated bubble stats where he was averaging around 40 min a game. He's right where he was statwise from last season before the bubble/playoffs with slight increases in 3PTM/points. Also, yeah his assists are down atm because Jokic is operating heavily as the point center more so than past seasons. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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