John Collins 2020-2021 Outlook

[Brye]

This dude is hit garbage , trade this dude for some draft picks hawks..... oneyku isn’t even back yet and y’all dominating without this scrub, get some picks 

[jay_00]

I ended up getting stuck with him in an auction league on 1 team after missing out on the other bigs I wanted. Looks like I should've coughed up a few more bucks to avoid this guy smh. 

[brooklynfinest42]

so he will not come back in the game.. that's it?  Uggggh! why do i listen to the rankings? I got him in the 4th round but still wtf..

[jordan62345]

Thought I got a steal drafting this dude at 4.03 in a 12 team league. He cant event produce at that level smh...

[Samblacksmith]

Overreaction central, y’all need to chill. If you’re that worried about him then why don’t you trade him? 

[sld12]

47 minutes ago, Shyke said:

He’s not aggressive at all. Does this guy not understand he’s in a contract year? Do you wanna get paid or not??? 
Also he’s always open for lobs and they don’t even look for him. Very frustrating. I owned Jrue Holiday last season and traded him after first few weeks because of frustration and then eventually he balled out for someone else. So we gotta remain patient it’s still too early. Him not getting the extension is a good thing for his value, he should be extra motivated. I wouldn’t mind a trade out of Atlanta. 

He was ranked top 10 last season and we all knew a slight drop off was to be expected, that’s fine at least be top 30. But this current production is unacceptable!

Im gonna emphasize your story about Holiday.  This guy is WAY too talented to simply drop or trade for peanuts at this point.

That being said, he was playing pretty trash before he got thrown in, in garbage time tonight.

I’m very lucky that I got him in the 40s.  Getting him in the 20s would be mega frustrating 

Edited December 29, 2020 by sld12

[RedDogNamedClippers]

I think threads should be locked during game. 

[FantasyBallFan]

He's been in foul trouble every single game this year so I'll wait for some normalized games before I judge his production. With that said, this has been a very poor start to his contract year. It does not look like the Hawks need him whatsoever.

[stay_woke]

7 minutes ago, RedDogNamedClippers said:

I think threads should be locked during game. 

 

The last thing this forum needs is to be anything like the heavily censored football forum

[Tekno Team 2000]

If anyone drafted Collins expecting the same role and production, it wasn’t being realistic. That should have never been the expectation.

The Hawks aren’t just Young and him anymore. They have multiple new pieces all of which are good players. Plus the young guys they already had behind him and Young in the pecking order that are still developing. 

Too many mouths to feed on this team. They don’t need two guys to soak up all the usage. They are deep. They are trying to make the playoffs. All of this was known.

[RedDogNamedClippers]

4 minutes ago, stay_woke said:

 

The last thing this forum needs is to be anything like the heavily censored football forum

Well if we going to get people whining for 2 pages about their 3rd rounder being “trash” after the 3rd game of the season.

[MikeXScott]

Collin's dropoff was very predictable. The Hawks had a very active free agency that shifted this guy's value.

[L3onD]

great 4th quarter (10p)

great line despite everything

[KDavis94]

its literally the second week of fantasy and you guys already complaining lol

[summersoff7]

34 minutes ago, Samblacksmith said:

Overreaction central, y’all need to chill. If you’re that worried about him then why don’t you trade him? 

you dont think we've been trying to do that?

[dcballer0921]

My collins and buddy for Demar and Roco - I want Demar FT FG assists and points, Roco 3’s and stocks 

 

i think Buddy could push 4 3’s a game but Collins is worrying me...no usage, so many players there who can hoop, Collins can’t really ‘hoop’ per se ...

 

thoughts ??? 

[jay_00]

Yea I've changed my mind. He's off to a real slow start with constant foul trouble but once he gets over that he should be fine. He should still end up a top 40 guy.

[ovofnd]

3 minutes ago, jay_00 said:

Yea I've changed my mind. He's off to a real slow start with constant foul trouble but once he gets over that he should be fine. He should still end up a top 40 guy.

He’s been 48th per game on 22mpg with foul trouble.

If he pushes for his regular minutes (~31mpg) he could easily get back inside the top 25 IMHO.

[jay_00]

2 minutes ago, ovofnd said:

He’s been 48th per game on 22mpg with foul trouble.

If he pushes for his regular minutes (~31mpg) he could easily get back inside the top 25 IMHO.

Capela didn't play in 2 of those games tho and he's still on a minutes limit. Capela getting 30 mins will have an impact.

[jordan62345]

If he doesn't get into foul trouble, he's playing 30+ mins a night. Pretty simple

[MrCantaloupe]

He's just so god damn efficient. Even when he's off, he's on. FT shooting has been spectacular. Blocks and threes combo is always nice, and of course he will be near the league lead in dunks. Other than the foul trouble, I can't really ask for more.

[colepenhagen]

only looking for 15/10 on elite %'s with decent threes and blks.

considering he finished as 7th overall last year i think 3rd/4th rd price was very cheap even factoring in his reduced roll with capela and others.

[ovofnd]

2 hours ago, jay_00 said:

Capela didn't play in 2 of those games tho and he's still on a minutes limit. Capela getting 30 mins will have an impact.

It will have an impact on his rebounding, but everything else might be similar. They shared the court in preseason and Collins’ per-36 still looked good, even his rebounding (not 11RPG good, but serviceable).

High floor (top 40) and high ceiling (top 10) IMHO. As long as he’s getting the minutes and he doesn’t continue to shoot himself in the foot with fouls, Collins at 30mpg will return good value.

[Stefan]

Per 36 are fine: 21p 9.5r 0.5s 2.5b 0.53s AND 6.5PFS

 JOHN are u frickin INSAINE ?! Stop the f uck fouling people every single game.

[richardtlee22]

5 minutes ago, Stefan said:

Per 36 are fine: 21p 9.5r 0.5s 2.5b 0.53s AND 6.5PFS

 JOHN are u frickin INSAINE ?! Stop the f uck fouling people every single game.

 6.5 PFS dont seem ideal lol 

Nobody is holding him back but himself