sharkpotato 1,121 Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 64 ADP on Yahoo. Anybody else feel that if he got consistent starter minutes he would crush that? I can actually see him crack top 50. I think this time Pop will actually give him some minutes since Forbes is gone. It's his time now. I might have to grab him a round earlier just to get those elite steals. Where are you guys drafting him? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Stefan 1,107 Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 (edited) I'm all over this guy, Fine taking him after 5th round if available Edited November 28, 2020 by Stefan 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DonutGiveUp 1,557 Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 Took him late rounds last season expecting a breakout but Pop happened. If he can get minutes in the 30’s you have a triple double threat with stocks but I wouldn’t take him before 6th round 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RedDogNamedClippers 2,317 Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 Biggest letdown last season. Who would want him? Pop is back! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rabaak 354 Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 He was maddening to own last year. He would shoot 1-7 one game and 7-10 the next. Some consistency from game to game would be nice. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Code of Hammurabi 4,371 Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 Im just not a big beleiver in this guy. The steals are great, but I just dont see that next step coming that everyone else thinks is happening. He is what he is. A good solid role player, but I dont see all star type upside that many do. At his valuation in draft hes an easy pass for me, esp in roto leagues. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Johnnyapplebot 1,532 Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 Any Spurs player not named Aldridge and Derozan is a no for me. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
El_Chingon 1,807 Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 (edited) Last year we have to remember he was on a minutes restriction due to coming back from ACL surgery, after having missed the entire 2018-2019 season due to the ACL. He still managed an elite 1.7 steals per game in only 25 minutes of playing time. The arrow is pointing up as the minutes restriction and rust from missing an entire season will be gone this season. Keep in mind that that most guys don't recover physically and, more importantly, psychologically from ACL surgery until the 2nd year back from it. Edited November 28, 2020 by El_Chingon 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fabrar 2,489 Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 This guy has some serious potential but I'm wary due to Pop's ridiculous rotation decisions. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Stefan 1,107 Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 (edited) splits are awsome court time between 30 and 39 mins (12 games): 16-7-5 51% 82% 2.5STL ! Edited November 29, 2020 by Stefan 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kane 2,862 Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, Code of Hammurabi said: Im just not a big beleiver in this guy. The steals are great, but I just dont see that next step coming that everyone else thinks is happening. He is what he is. A good solid role player, but I dont see all star type upside that many do. At his valuation in draft hes an easy pass for me, esp in roto leagues. Yup,I still don't have faith to draft him in 5th-6th round as long as DDR and LMA still in spurs Edited November 29, 2020 by kane Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sharkpotato 1,121 Posted November 29, 2020 Author Share Posted November 29, 2020 2 hours ago, Code of Hammurabi said: Im just not a big beleiver in this guy. The steals are great, but I just dont see that next step coming that everyone else thinks is happening. He is what he is. A good solid role player, but I dont see all star type upside that many do. At his valuation in draft hes an easy pass for me, esp in roto leagues. I don't see him as an all-star. More like a high-end role player ala Covington, FVV. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
apatas 436 Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 His case is clear for me: if he plays at least 30 minutes he is borderline TOP50 player and 5th round target. But he won't. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
El_Chingon 1,807 Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 (edited) 7 hours ago, apatas said: His case is clear for me: if he plays at least 30 minutes he is borderline TOP50 player and 5th round target. But he won't. I'm curious why you think he won't Minutes restrictions will be completely lifted another year removed from the ACL. And his minutes gradually ramped up last season (@ 23 in October/November, @25 in December/January, and @27 in February/March, 30+ in the bubble). I have a hard time believing next season his minutes will go in the opposite direction, especially with Forbes out of the rotation. Edited November 30, 2020 by El_Chingon 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
apatas 436 Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 (edited) 39 minutes ago, El_Chingon said: I'm curious why you think he won't Minutes restrictions will be completely lifted another year removed from the ACL. And his minutes gradually ramped up last season (@ 23 in October/November, @25 in December/January, and @27 in February/March, 30+ in the bubble). I have a hard time believing next season his minutes will go in the opposite direction, especially with Forbes out of the rotation. But Derrick White? Also DeRozan will play minutes at SG, then White goes to the PG position etc. Second reason: Popovich rotation is never clear. Murray played 25,6 minutes last season, it will be 27-28 this season, I predict. Of course I forgot Mills also. Edited November 30, 2020 by apatas Quote Link to post Share on other sites
El_Chingon 1,807 Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 You seem so definitive though that he won't play 30 minutes, but you are conveniently ignoring Pop's rotations from last year and the direction his minutes were trending. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gile Pile 1,206 Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 https://www.rotoworld.com/basketball/nba/teams/sa/san-antonio-spurs/contracts DeRozan, Mills, Gay, Aldridge are all expiring. Spurs will probably be out of playoff picture by mid season, opening extra time for Spurs youngsters. Murray has clear path to around 30 - 32 MPG. 3 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
perkinsfor3 433 Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 I hope this is the year when Pop stops forcing Dejounte to become something he's not. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sharkpotato 1,121 Posted November 30, 2020 Author Share Posted November 30, 2020 Yeah played 31.2 min in the bubble. I'm pretty convinced that he'll get the minutes this season. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
xlosingmyedgex 302 Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 Dejounte and Derrick will get bigger minutes. Derrick's more consistent, but if you want to go for the higher upside, take DJ. However, if Derrick puts up the numbers he had in the bubble, don't sleep on him. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Stefan 1,107 Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 On 11/30/2020 at 1:14 PM, apatas said: But Derrick White? Also DeRozan will play minutes at SG, then White goes to the PG position etc. Second reason: Popovich rotation is never clear. Murray played 25,6 minutes last season, it will be 27-28 this season, I predict. Of course I forgot Mills also. There you go buddy. Murray bubble minutes 30 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
apatas 436 Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 2 minutes ago, Stefan said: There you go buddy. Murray bubble minutes 30 What really happens we see during season. What coach says is not a pure gold. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Stefan 1,107 Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, apatas said: What really happens we see during season. What coach says is not a pure gold. Yes, but it's a really good sign (⬆️ ⬆️ ⬆️) for Murray and White. EDIT: and it'll be to late to take them when the season starts Edited December 2, 2020 by Stefan Quote Link to post Share on other sites
xlosingmyedgex 302 Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 (edited) On 11/30/2020 at 6:14 AM, apatas said: But Derrick White? Also DeRozan will play minutes at SG, then White goes to the PG position etc. Second reason: Popovich rotation is never clear. Murray played 25,6 minutes last season, it will be 27-28 this season, I predict. Of course I forgot Mills also. Pop's been playing DeRozan at SF/PF recently. PG/SG is going to Murray, White, Walker, some Patty (who sat out of the entire bubble), and possibly a smidgen of Tre Jones. The first two are a lock for ~30mins a game. Derrick's also out for the first part of the season, so keep that in mind. Edited December 2, 2020 by xlosingmyedgex 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DonutGiveUp 1,557 Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 Pop said he will go small so LMA at the 5 and maybe we see a guard heavy lineup at the other 4 spots. Murray at 30 min per game is lethal but we have to be cautious it is Pop after all and his love bird Mills is still around 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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