kane 2,887 Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 1 hour ago, BykeINIT said: this is the turner i was afraid of when i said his value takes a major hit once his blocks regress to the mean kinda mad i didn’t sell high now.. coulda had him included as a centerpiece in a trade for adebayo and didn’t do it let’s hope he gets back to what he’s capable of Yup,his main value and high ranking is all about his elite block.....without block,his other stats is pretty mediocre 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Eltoro 745 Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 No minutes in the fourth? This stuff drove me crazy last year. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
colepenhagen 3,666 Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 crazy how inflated his value/rank is with one category. even with a 50/80 3 stock 1.4 t/o line hes still outside top 50 last few weeks. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BykeINIT 180 Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 1 hour ago, Eltoro said: No minutes in the fourth? This stuff drove me crazy last year. pacers blowout Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Eltoro 745 Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 3 hours ago, BykeINIT said: pacers blowout Three other starters played 36-38 minutes, Mcdermott and Mcconnell played 30/32, and Lamb played 28. 7th in minutes at 24 is no bueno. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DepressedKnicksFan 26 Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 Hes turning into Brook Lopez/Serge Ibaka like lines 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BykeINIT 180 Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 On 12/28/2020 at 9:43 AM, BykeINIT said: not to mention, there’s no way turner keeps this up when his blocks regress to the mean, you’re guna be mad as hell at them 8 point 4 rebounds games ^^ don’t say i didn’t warn u (as usual) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rob0403 1,247 Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 The main thing is the minutes. The last few years the leading average shot blockers are above 2.6 blocks a game so it's not Impossible for Turner to average above that a whole season. Turner was a leading shot blocker one of these years. However with less minutes, it's just improbable to impossible to replicate that. And IND has no problem just running Sabonis as the sole big if they win. Pretty much doesn't do anything else other than give blocks. Not a good FG for a C Quote Link to post Share on other sites
80version 853 Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 22 minutes ago, rob0403 said: Pretty much doesn't do anything else other than give blocks. Not a good FG for a C Your comment seems to cast him as little more than a block specialist, but he’s a more well-rounded player than he gets credit for. Fun fact; Myles still ranks #73 on the season if punting blocks, in 30 mpg. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DonutGiveUp 2,163 Posted February 12 Author Share Posted February 12 38 minutes ago, rob0403 said: The main thing is the minutes. The last few years the leading average shot blockers are above 2.6 blocks a game so it's not Impossible for Turner to average above that a whole season. Turner was a leading shot blocker one of these years. However with less minutes, it's just improbable to impossible to replicate that. And IND has no problem just running Sabonis as the sole big if they win. Pretty much doesn't do anything else other than give blocks. Not a good FG for a C Common man he's been rebounding and scoring. Blocks were always going to come down. My issue is the Pacers obsession with playing Sabonis so much and forgetting Turner exists second half. Bjorkren doing same sh** McMillan was Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Eltoro 745 Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 19 minutes ago, DonutGiveUp said: Common man he's been rebounding and scoring. Blocks were always going to come down. My issue is the Pacers obsession with playing Sabonis so much and forgetting Turner exists second half. Bjorkren doing same sh** McMillan was This is the real issue tbh. When he plays 24-25 minutes (has averaged 25 the last five games) and the other guys ball hog, he is going to produce some really frustrating lines. I think the question is, are they babying him a little because of his injuries or are they choosing not to run that two-big tandem because they don’t feel it works? Because if the minutes aren’t there, I think his value is going to take a serious hit (or continue to take one). His touches are only going to get worse if/when Warren comes back, so you need the minutes for the defensive stats. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DonutGiveUp 2,163 Posted February 12 Author Share Posted February 12 30 minutes ago, Eltoro said: This is the real issue tbh. When he plays 24-25 minutes (has averaged 25 the last five games) and the other guys ball hog, he is going to produce some really frustrating lines. I think the question is, are they babying him a little because of his injuries or are they choosing not to run that two-big tandem because they don’t feel it works? Because if the minutes aren’t there, I think his value is going to take a serious hit (or continue to take one). His touches are only going to get worse if/when Warren comes back, so you need the minutes for the defensive stats. Agreed. It's a bit like the Boucher situation except Turner is the best defender on the Pacers. Let's hope they are just limiting minutes because he's banged up. Personally not worried about Warren he isn't close to returning and will be heavily limited Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rob0403 1,247 Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 The big concern with him as vs Boucher is that 2 coaches now are seemingly coming to the conclusion that they should play Turner less minutes. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DonutGiveUp 2,163 Posted February 12 Author Share Posted February 12 11 minutes ago, rob0403 said: The big concern with him as vs Boucher is that 2 coaches now are seemingly coming to the conclusion that they should play Turner less minutes. Not true. Turner was playing 30 plus minutes until he got banged up recently. He's easily their best defender and can hit threes. Will be fine going forward Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BykeINIT 180 Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 i also think the minute limit has more to do wit injuries than anything Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pirate 907 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 Stock count night. 6 so far Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DonutGiveUp 2,163 Posted March 24 Author Share Posted March 24 Back tonight! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
XOB 80 Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 This dude could have his leg chopped off and he would still only miss two games. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DonutGiveUp 2,163 Posted March 30 Author Share Posted March 30 Seriously wtf is Bjorkren doing here? Why is trash Holiday taking 11 shots? Surely you can find more than 7 shots for the dude. I get he isn't high usage but they keep losing and repeating same garbage and people will disagree but Turner>Sabonis all day Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BykeINIT 180 Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 it really makes no sense .. he averaged 15 points on 51% shooting at the age of 20. his usage on offense is embarrassing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DonutGiveUp 2,163 Posted March 30 Author Share Posted March 30 9 minutes ago, BykeINIT said: it really makes no sense .. he averaged 15 points on 51% shooting at the age of 20. his usage on offense is embarrassing. back to back coaches too they ignore his talents. Really hope he leaves next summer Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DezedandConfused 3,029 Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 Hornets offered Zeller and PJ Washington before the trade deadline. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DonutGiveUp 2,163 Posted March 31 Author Share Posted March 31 That's more like it! Get the man involved more! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DonutGiveUp 2,163 Posted April 4 Author Share Posted April 4 So much better without Sabonis Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Flamez 427 Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 Anyone see what happened? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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