KingDURANTULA 797 Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 Embiid bullied him stole many boards and drew many fouls Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DonutGiveUp 1,938 Posted February 28 Author Share Posted February 28 17 minutes ago, KingDURANTULA said: Embiid bullied him stole many boards and drew many fouls Double double and got the win who cares 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
KingDURANTULA 797 Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 Nah Sexland got the W while allen got abused by embiid Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DonutGiveUp 1,938 Posted February 28 Author Share Posted February 28 34 minutes ago, KingDURANTULA said: Nah Sexland got the W while allen got abused by embiid How the fcuk was he abused? Embiid has the refs on his side and still lost. Man posted a double double lol gtfo with the negativity 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
KingDURANTULA 797 Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 46 minutes ago, DonutGiveUp said: How the fcuk was he abused? Embiid has the refs on his side and still lost. Man posted a double double lol gtfo with the negativity calm down son im just spittin facts from watchin the game , embiid was scoring on allen with ease all day, snatched a bunch of boards from him as well Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gregp 109 Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 1 hour ago, KingDURANTULA said: calm down son im just spittin facts from watchin the game , embiid was scoring on allen with ease all day, snatched a bunch of boards from him as well its almost like Embiid is a better player than Allen or something Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BykeINIT 153 Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 On 2/24/2021 at 7:51 PM, B.A.G. said: Allen has become what I expected of Ayton and Ayton has become what I expected of Allen. Somehow I ended up getting what I was expecting. Congrats on everyone that held on from those early games Deandre Jordan was starting over him followed by Drummond. The fro has finally been unleashed! funny, i traded allen (with devonte graham) for ayton Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Maxemann 42 Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 1 hour ago, BykeINIT said: funny, i traded allen (with devonte graham) for ayton well thats sad. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
outherebrother 32 Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 2 hours ago, BykeINIT said: funny, i traded allen (with devonte graham) for ayton Sucked in Quote Link to post Share on other sites
thebigbite 6 Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 Guys i want to offer D Fox for Allen. But what if his mins decrease with love nance joining? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DonutGiveUp 1,938 Posted February 28 Author Share Posted February 28 2 hours ago, thebigbite said: Guys i want to offer D Fox for Allen. But what if his mins decrease with love nance joining? Lol they have zero impact on him wtf. He's the franchise center of the future and been rolling Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jyeatbvg 894 Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 13 hours ago, KingDURANTULA said: calm down son im just spittin facts from watchin the game , embiid was scoring on allen with ease all day, snatched a bunch of boards from him as well If the point you're trying to prove is that Jarrett Allen got outplayed by a MVP candidate, I don't think anyone's shocked. It's a good thing he won't play MVP candidates every game. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BykeINIT 153 Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 7 hours ago, Maxemann said: well thats sad. it was considered a steal when i pulled it off Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Maxemann 42 Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 2 hours ago, BykeINIT said: it was considered a steal when i pulled it off Guess that changed. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
KingDURANTULA 797 Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 11 hours ago, Jyeatbvg said: If the point you're trying to prove is that Jarrett Allen got outplayed by a MVP candidate, I don't think anyone's shocked. It's a good thing he won't play MVP candidates every game. 23 hours ago, gregp said: its almost like Embiid is a better player than Allen or something well yeah thats exactly my point. he got outplayed by embiid. never said it was a shocker. he'll put up 20/15 against rockets tomo though no big deal 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BykeINIT 153 Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 11 hours ago, Maxemann said: Guess that changed. tbd ayton gave us 22-10 today 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Maxemann 42 Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 1 minute ago, BykeINIT said: tbd ayton gave us 22-10 today over the last 15 days allen beats ayton in every single cat except FT. he crushes him in boards, blocks, points. with drummond gone allen is just the better player. but at the time you made an okayish trade no doubt. you never know how things turn out. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BykeINIT 153 Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 3 minutes ago, Maxemann said: over the last 15 days allen beats ayton in every single cat except FT. he crushes him in boards, blocks, points. with drummond gone allen is just the better player. but at the time you made an okayish trade no doubt. you never know how things turn out. hold your horses, we saw what ayton was capable of last season .. there’s a reason he was a second rounder. he’s starting to come around, so it’s still up for debate in fact over the last 7 days, ayton is ranked 20th overall .. exactly the same as allen over the last 14 days. and one spot above the 19th overall ayton was ranked in 2019-2020. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gregp 109 Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 (edited) 33 minutes ago, Maxemann said: over the last 15 days allen beats ayton in every single cat except FT. he crushes him in boards, blocks, points. with drummond gone allen is just the better player. but at the time you made an okayish trade no doubt. you never know how things turn out. They should be pretty similar ROS. Allen more Blocks, and I guess more Rebs. Ayton better FT%. In a redraft rn for ROS I'd still prob take Ayton over Allen, but it's real close. Ayton just seems safer. But no denying Allen has been exciting in his new role. Edited March 1 by gregp 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
summersoff7 1,104 Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 Allen a 3rd rounder next year? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DoctorLove 312 Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 What does the return of love and nance do to his value? Chance they boost it? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gregp 109 Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 20 hours ago, DoctorLove said: What does the return of love and nance do to his value? Chance they boost it? Prob brings down his Pts n Rebs a bit. Nance n Love will get there buckets, and they're both good rebounders. So there will be games where those two take away from Allen. Tbh tho, it won't hurt his overall numbers much, hes still very much their future and their featured big man. And these two could also help in spacing the floor leading to more open looks for Allen. So it should only slightly impact him. But let's be real here, Nance will get rest days/sits here n there, and Love will he hurt again in 2 weeks. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
B.A.G. 69 Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 I think Love and Nance cancel each other out more than hurt Allen. When Nance was healthy and starting with Drummond, it didn’t impact Drummond’s rebounding numbers much. Love at this point in his career is more of a stretch spot of shooter and not really the physical rebounding presence he used to be. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chadgo1 30 Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 Have read this entire thread and so many of the takes in here were hilarious. Been a die hard Cavs fan for many many years and follow them very closely (probably unhealthily close considering they aren't very good... yet). I laughed at all of the “what are the Cavs gonna do with all these centers? Stupid trade. Stupid organization” takes. I get it, we’re not very good but we’re rebuilding. The Allen trade is one of the best deals this organization has ever made and aligns with the age of the core pieces that can hopefully grow together. The Cavs FO had coveted Allen for a few years. Drummond was CLEARLY done here once that deal was made if you knew anything about this team. And Drummond knew it too. Hence the terrible body language during games and the pouting. And honestly, good riddance. He is excruciating to watch. He is an offensive flow killer without the talent to justify it. His rebounds are inflated because he grabs so many of his terrible shot attempts. He has terrible footwork, no post moves, and cant finish at all. I never really understood what “empty stat” guy meant until I watched Drummond play. Allen is a superior player than Drummond by almost every measure, particularly for this roster. Get him now if you can, because his star is just starting to shine. And forget about Love effecting Allen too much. He cant stay healthy for one and he’ll open the floor on offense for allen when and if he plays again. Nance could actually enhance allens game because he is such a good passer and has become a 3pt threat. i traded Harden for Morant and Allen as soon as the Cavs got him knowing allen would get bulk of minutes soon (ok, i know, yeah, probably a dumb deal, but my season has tanked because of injuries and I wanted allen on my team just for the fun of it. Lol. But honestly... i haven't lost since) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Em-City 65 Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 On 3/1/2021 at 6:13 AM, BykeINIT said: it was considered a steal when i pulled it off i told you allen's stats were legit back then. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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