rabaak 381 Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 4 hours ago, JormaJormala said: - Cant shoot for his life to play SF or PF, no 3 point shot what so ever, no jump shot what so ever The wolves roster is full of chuckers. They need somebody on the inside who can do the dirty work of defending the rim and getting rebounds. I don't see anybody else on the roster with the desire/energy to do that. I like the quick hands and the anticipation. If Jarred continues to develop, you have to like the trade better that the wolves did last year with Keita Bates-Diop, Shabazz Napier, Covington and Noah Vonleh going and Malik Beasley, Juancho Hernangomez and Jarred Vanderbilt coming back. There was a draft choice too. Except for Covington, the Wolves did not lose much. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rob0403 1,234 Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 The guy rebounds well, a definite strength. The weakness that dropped him in drafts and opportunities so far is his lack of spacing. He is a longer 4 but might be an undersized 5. However, in today's game the 5 are smaller, with the caveat they bring spacing to the floor to offset that. Problem with Min is that there's a lot of drama going on and a lot of money being paid to Juancho. So I don't think he should play the 4 or will get a big chance there. At the 5 he has a chance to be Town's backup. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kawz 382 Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 Anyone local to Minny who can give us a feel on the PF/C situation? Could Reid get leapfrogged by Jarred or was yesterday more of a 1 off due to Reid’s foul trouble? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rabaak 381 Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 Anybody who can help Saunders win will play. So from game to game, Beasley, DLO and KAT are probably the only ones that have consistent minutes. If a bench player comes in and has a hot hand, they will get more minutes for that game. So rotations will be hard to predict. The wolves don't have very many players that can play defense. Okogie, maybe Culver, possibly Ed Davis, Rubio sometimes. Reid is still pretty raw and may not have the best basketball IQ and anticipation. If Vanderbilt shows he can play defense and rebound, I think he can make a case for minutes. Bottom line is nobody knows. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DonutGiveUp 1,991 Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 This dude should get all the backup PF/C spots. Ed Davis, Reid and Layman should not be in the nba utter trash 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bugs bunny 1,825 Posted January 6 Author Share Posted January 6 7 hours ago, JormaJormala said: Sure, he rebounded well against underdeveloped kids in the church gym. Let see him do it on a back-to-back game against NBA size front court on a gloomy Tuesday night. Kind of like what he did last week against the Lakers Gasol, AD and Harrell and then the following game against Clippers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bbythepier 1,681 Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 6 hours ago, Kawz said: Anyone local to Minny who can give us a feel on the PF/C situation? Could Reid get leapfrogged by Jarred or was yesterday more of a 1 off due to Reid’s foul trouble? This is not a checkmark but he writes game articles for Wolves SB nation site, so legit. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bbythepier 1,681 Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 I actually hope Saunders tries him with the starters tonight. Not only due to possibly more secure minutes and D'Angelo 3pt threat helps on the PnR/lob game, but also I want him to defend the Nurkic PnR instead of trying to battle with Kanter on the O-boards. Kanter has the better post game and is really strong, possibly could get in foul trouble there just trying to hold your ground. Naz Reid got 3 starts Ed Davis got 2 starts Is it Vanderbilt's turn? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ray Barboni 455 Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 Taking a shot tonight ... hoping for a sign of things to come Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rob0403 1,234 Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 3 hours ago, bbythepier said: I actually hope Saunders tries him with the starters tonight. Not only due to possibly more secure minutes and D'Angelo 3pt threat helps on the PnR/lob game, but also I want him to defend the Nurkic PnR instead of trying to battle with Kanter on the O-boards. Kanter has the better post game and is really strong, possibly could get in foul trouble there just trying to hold your ground. Naz Reid got 3 starts Ed Davis got 2 starts Is it Vanderbilt's turn? I feel like if he doesn't start this game he will start the next... Assuming no one breaks out. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
indigorivers 385 Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 Well he's gonna get those garbage time minutes Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bealforthewin 57 Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 (edited) 😕 maybe legit minuetes next game? Yall think this man is a hold or a drop? Edited January 8 by bealforthewin Quote Link to post Share on other sites
indigorivers 385 Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 im conflicted after this game. Going to listen to the post games and see where people's minds are at. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Quazza 2,353 Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 58 minutes ago, indigorivers said: Well he's gonna get those garbage time minutes which is around 48 mins in Minnesota games 7 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
taenggg 1,191 Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 this guy is nerlens 2.0 but with steals Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MrBuffet 164 Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 He plays Saturday and Sunday so I will be holding until then at a minimum. He plays insanely hard out there, going for every rebound/steal/block. Happy with what he put up tonight - 10 pts/10reb/1ast/2 stl - For an end of the bench fill in that is a nice line. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
j3rkthenurk 932 Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 17 minutes ago, taenggg said: this guy is nerlens 2.0 but with steals Nerlens gives you steals as well Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bbythepier 1,681 Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 (edited) 1) He played the Lillard/Nurkic PnR like trash but I have no idea if Ryan Saunders can help that. You'd think so but he might just suck as a developer. 2) Got bullied by Kanter on a couple of back downs. That was chalk. We all know about everything else and what he brings. Next opponent San Antonio is a much different type of team and won't have such lopsided size/weight differentials. I'm rolling him out there again, with the risk he could get 12 minutes in a competitive game. Edited January 8 by bbythepier 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gymchamp 162 Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 34 minutes ago, taenggg said: this guy is nerlens 2.0 but with steals 16 minutes ago, j3rkthenurk said: Nerlens gives you steals as well This. Noel pretty much averaged 2 steals a game his first two years in the league. And then 1.5 steals in only 20 min a game in years 3 and 4. In less minutes since then he gets you 1 steal a game. Give him minutes he will get you stocks ;) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JormaJormala 747 Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 If this coach has any integrity he will bench Wanderpilt next game. He was atrocious out there defending Portland bigs. Yeez! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
j3rkthenurk 932 Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 6 minutes ago, JormaJormala said: If this coach has any integrity he will bench Wanderpilt next game. He was atrocious out there defending Portland bigs. Yeez! All Minnesota big men are atrocious at defense. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
YouSnoozeYouLose 184 Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 2 minutes ago, JormaJormala said: If this coach has any integrity he will bench Wanderpilt next game. He was atrocious out there defending Portland bigs. Yeez! I think SF and PF are the more natural positions for him. He's got good handles, quickness, and passing to play SF. He's too skinny to play center, but it's not like the team has anything to gain from playing Ed Davis at center. Might as well give the young kid some run and see what he can develop into. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
perkinsfor3 433 Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 1 hour ago, taenggg said: this guy is nerlens 2.0 but with steals Because they play nothing alike? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Johnnyapplebot 1,544 Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 (edited) Ok Edited January 8 by Johnnyapplebot Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tazdingo 363 Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 I was mulling hard whether to pick him up and I literally got out of my bathroom midshower (still covered in soap and shampoo) to pick him up by the end of the 3rd quarter. Felt like the blurb that came out after the game would've let people in my league leave him alone. That said, I don't think he'd be doing his teammates any justice by playing as a small ball 5 but would work great as a 4. I've gone through my fair share of players that fall under the "this guy would be great if he just got 20+/30+mpg!!!" but it feels alot more viable for him to become a focal piece in the rotation just because of how atrocious and lackadaisical the rest of the big men on the team look. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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